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Multiple accounts[edit]

Dear Super Mario RPG,

This is your third account after CoolNintendo (talk) and Tetris (talk), and they have been blocked. Please continue to use this Super Mario RPG account from now on, as any further accounts that are created will also be blocked, including this one. If a problem arises with this account, please contact an administrator before creating another account, which can be done without logging in. You can also use Special:PasswordReset to get a new temporary password.

This is actually your fourth including Maciej the gaming pro (talk), though this was an unused one from four years ago. Please do not create multiple accounts, otherwise you will be temporarily blocked from editing entirely. If this is due to a forgotten password, make sure to add an email to your preferences so you're able to do a password reset, or contact an admin first before creating another account. Lucina costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 21:38, October 10, 2023 (EDT)

okay. first two i forgot password to. third one i decided i didn't like the username (Tetris) Super Game Gear (talk) 21:41, October 10, 2023 (EDT)
You're allowed to request a rename three months after account creation. A new account shouldn't be made just to change your name; creating a username isn't something done with little thought, and since it's the name you settled with, it's expected that you stick with it at least for a while. Lucina costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 22:03, October 10, 2023 (EDT)

Color[edit]

Our templates generally have some amount of color for ease and thematic purposes, i.e. red templates on Mario games, green on Yoshi, brown on DK, purple on Wario, et cetera, often with colored text to represent multiple characters. If you're worried about your eyes being strained, I'd recommend you do what I do and find ways to turn the screen brightness down lower than it goes by default, which is a Godsend for late working in the dark - I use Intel Graphics Command Center, but you'll need to figure out what you'd need depending on your device. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:18, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

The problem I have with colors and why I like the plain and simple look is because the use of colors is arbitrary, like the bright red on Famicom GP page. The coding for the navigation templates are not on the articles, but the coloring for the tables are. Super Game Gear (talk) 20:29, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

Other appearances[edit]

Hi, just to let you know, the "other appearances" sections are not for cameos in general. They're for cameos outside of the games this wiki covers. See relevant proposal.

Also I see you're grouping history sections by series instead of game. Nothing strongly against it for now but I'm curious, what's better about that format? Just want to know. S o m e t h i n g o n e ! A Big Bandit from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door. 18:52, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks for the heads up about Other appearances. Also, it's arbitrary, but I feel it's necessary if like other sections are too short (e.g. it's redundant if one section after another says "acts the same as in [game]" or "acts the same as in game"). I basically only prefer sections if they are large enough to warrant it, not like if they have 2-3 sentences that can be tied to like a similar release (e.g. if there's only three sentences describing Super Mario Galaxy 2's difference from Super Mario Galaxy, I think it's better off to put all the information together. Remakes tend to share an individual section as well, which I think you've seen around a wiki (like 64 / 64 DS), and it can reduce the redundancy of using sentences when having to reintroduce everything in like one or two sentences. Super Game Gear (talk) 18:58, October 30, 2023 (EDT)
Ah, so reducing redundancy was the reason? Makes sense, really, I have seen those things before. Thanks for clarifying for me! S o m e t h i n g o n e ! A Big Bandit from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door. 19:02, October 30, 2023 (EDT)
You're welcome. Unfortunately there's not really any black or white solution to the idea of reducing redundancy in wiki text, as 1-2 sentences could be redundant, or 6-7 sentences. Super Game Gear (talk) 19:14, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Trigger-happy info removal[edit]

Your recent mass excision of information from pages like Nintendo, iQue, and Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection on grounds that "it's not related to Mario enough" is pretty misguided. It leaves out historical and technical context that readers may benefit from knowing if they are willing to engage with Mario media specifically. You have reasoned that this much detail is comparable to listing entire in-depth biographies for the people involved in the Mario series, but I'd argue there's a crucial difference: these people are living, breathing beings whose existence isn't tied to a fictional character, meaning there is really only so much you can write about them on this site before the information starts becoming superfluous. With the aforementioned subjects, because they're inherently tied to Nintendo's game development history, they practically exist in symbiosis with Mario's franchise. Even then, I agree that some of the information may ramble in parts, but if you feel like you can reform some of the content to a degree you find reasonable, it's best to first initiate a discussion on the matter--the amount of content concerned here is large enough that it's nigh on guaranteed any attempts at handling it on your own will result in disagreements. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 09:41, November 27, 2023 (EST)

Well, I guess what I can say is that this is how we learn along the way. I've run into a few disagreements with my edits before, and I did not start a conflict with them. Super Game Gear (talk) 10:03, November 27, 2023 (EST)
Please stop making unconstructive edits on the Super Mario Wiki. This isn't a warning, and it's possible that you made a mistake by accident or without realizing it; this is simply a reminder for your information. If the action continues, then a warning will be issued. Thanks for reading and keep contributing.
If you feel this reminder was undeserved, you may appeal it.

This is with regard to your removing of the Production section in the Virtual Boy article. To reiterate my message above: the history of an official Nintendo system that plays official Mario games can and should very much be within the interest of the wiki's readers. Phasing whole history sections out because they're not directly and obligately related to Mario makes for low-priority and unprofessional coverage. I am not saying you have to agree, but the changes you're making are drastic enough that they may require discussion beforehand. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 18:17, December 15, 2023 (EST)

Re: Headings[edit]

Now I checked the History section of Manual of Style, and found the guideline you told me, I will take your edits to know that I cannot add a History heading to a subject that made one appearance.

Also, I saw some articles with the description heading. Observing the edits you made with my previous edits, I took it as articles with little content to not need that 'Description' heading, if I am correct. Thank you for telling me. Derekblue1(talk)Daisy Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga-styled sprite 01:00, November 29, 2023 (EST)

History section splits[edit]

Hey, can you pause on splitting history sections? It's evident that guidelines per MarioWiki:Article size are not sufficient enough for a judgement call for several page splits you've attempted. We're trying to figure out how to rework these article size guidelines (the 100k byte limit in the policy is clearly not a good guideline, which is made much clearer from these attempts) so we don't have a suboptimal layout of pages in the process. While several of these are technically 100k or reaching it, the resulting original pages will be too small to justify an article, where their navigational templates exceed the size of the page. You've also split off a featured article Chain Chomp, which is too much of a drastic change affecting a front page display that we're not comfortable enough moving forward with without prior discussion. At the time of this post, there are several pages where it's not exceeding the disputed 100k limit, such as Thwomp, Coin, Bob-omb, Shy Guy. Even those a little over 100k such as Koopa Troopa and Piranha Plant are probably not advisable for a split yet. Even for a page like Goomba, try to trim content where possible too. For instance, I think there's too many images in that article, so if I wanted to cut down images, I'd consider very carefully which image illustrates this character's history (such as an appearance showing a redesign of Goomba or a stylistic change in Goomba) and which ones are less important (Goomba simply reappearing in a direct sequel). Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 14:35, December 2, 2023 (EST)

I actually was not planning on doing any more, especially when I saw the removal of "History of Chain Chomp." However, I do agree that it gets redundant when splitting an article that's like 45k in size. Super Game Gear (talk) 14:42, December 2, 2023 (EST)

Completed MKT icons[edit]

Hello, Super Game Gear. Thank you for taking notice on the template I was working on, I completed typing all the names of the drivers, karts and gliders on my sandbox. I was thinking of Template:mkt-icon, but do you have a better suggestion for a template name? Derekblue1(talk)Daisy Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga-styled sprite 07:34, December 9, 2023 (EST)

Template:mkt icon (without the dash) Super Game Gear (talk) 09:17, December 9, 2023 (EST)
Got it, here is the new template: Template:MKT icon. Derekblue1(talk)Daisy Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga-styled sprite 09:39, December 9, 2023 (EST)

DK level pages[edit]

Approved by who? Was there a discussion on this I missed? Dark BonesSig.png 14:18, December 16, 2023 (EST)

Yes. Super Game Gear (talk)
I'm with 7 here, I think there should be a more community-wide discussion on this rather than one normal editor and one sysop. Especially on the world pages, the galleries don't function as well as the tables to on my monitor. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:25, December 16, 2023 (EST)
Well I'm nearly done with DKLIII and already completed restyling the first three DKC level pages and the first two DKL level pages. I've been doing this for several days. Super Game Gear (talk) 14:28, December 16, 2023 (EST)
I would hardly call a user talk page discussion between three users, one of whom not even being 100% on board with the idea, to be sufficient consensus to overhaul all of these pages. I, for one vastly prefer the table for the Bonus Levels over the simple bulleted list with the screenshots clumped to the right of it. I do think a gallery is better than a table for the enemy lists, though. Dark BonesSig.png 14:31, December 16, 2023 (EST)
I think that if you had objections, you should have voiced them sooner, because I'm nearly done with the overhaul. Consensus is a relative term, anyways. Super Game Gear (talk) 14:35, December 16, 2023 (EST)
I can't voice objections about something I don't know about. All of this has been happening behind my back. If there were a more high-profile discussion than three users on a user talk page, I would get it. Dark BonesSig.png 14:39, December 16, 2023 (EST)
Can you not take a hint? If someone is objecting to what you're doing, you should stop until the issue is settled. The linked discussion was not sufficient to me, and "I'm almost done already" is not a good reason to just keep going. Dark BonesSig.png 14:50, December 16, 2023 (EST)
I'm sorry about the confusion here. I think removing the tables should've happened for these lists. I find it a little odd that DKC articles have this layout while most other level pages use lists for that information, see Koopa Troopa Cave. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 15:39, December 16, 2023 (EST)
Yeah. It would require too much effort to undo all of it, and I just finished doing the DKL3 levels. I wanted to try something like a tabber for the Orang-utan Gang page, since it has five Bonus Levels (I did a quick edit; saw it wasn't working, and I know that tabber is currently only approved for infobox images). This would help retain the bullet list while alternating between the Bonus Level locations at the same time, so hopefully we can do that at some point. Super Game Gear (talk) 15:44, December 16, 2023 (EST)
Orangu-tan Gang is a good example of why I don't like using the bulleted lists over tables for the Bonus Levels. The tables provide a nice visual aid for the reader, showing them an image of the location of a collectible or the Bonus Level in addition to a description of how to get there or whatnot. I honestly have no idea why those Mario levels don't do this already. It's helpful, so railing against them is honestly baffling to me. Also, you can avoid the "too much effort" issue by having a more high-profile, community-wide discussion (or a proposal) before making such large, widespread changes like this. Dark BonesSig.png 16:02, December 16, 2023 (EST)
How the galleries are done in Orangu-tan Gang is suboptimal, that's why it it's hard to tell immediately what the bonus levels are. I think putting the secret levels in an accompanying gallery like green stars, with images labeling the levels, would work better. Table also works too, though. As for tabber, I don't really like the use of it on the wiki and I would eventually make a proposal to remove these all together, but the proposal was passed iirc too recently. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 16:09, December 16, 2023 (EST)
I'm going to give something on Orang-utan Gang's Bonus Levels section a try. I feel there's not enough justification for tables in the level article since it's mostly just parsed text. Super Game Gear (talk) 16:17, December 16, 2023 (EST)
The tables looking better and being better for organization is justification enough. Having the images crammed in a gallery below the bulleted list or off to the right just looks needlessly worse to me than simply having the table with the images neatly being paired with the descriptions. That goes for the KONG letters too - how is having the screenshot of the K off to the right, the O and the N in the gallery at the bottom of the page, and the G tucked away in the Bonus Level gallery better than just having a table with all of the screenshots neatly in place? I simply don't understand how that's an improvement. Dark BonesSig.png 16:34, December 16, 2023 (EST)

Agreed with 7feetunder. If info about an item/bonus room/etc. has a screenshot as a visual aid, a table is the best way to pair them together.
Game Gear, respectfully, your recent edits have largely felt like changing things just for the sake of change. Heed the advice given so far and discuss all of these things beforehand with the community at large. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 16:42, December 16, 2023 (EST)

I prefer the bullet list (more adjustable reading experience on devices with smaller screen size), and my amendment to the issue of the screenshots would be in the form of tabber, then it's fewer images occupying the size of the screen. Super Game Gear (talk) 16:46, December 16, 2023 (EST)
And they're less adjustable for larger screens. And tabber stinks, to put it bluntly. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:54, December 16, 2023 (EST)
To the point about KONG Letters, they're optional items in a large majority of DK platforming games, not key items. Super Game Gear (talk) 16:56, December 16, 2023 (EST)
So what? There's a consistent number and pattern to them. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:57, December 16, 2023 (EST)

This discussion has made it clear that you do not have the approval to go on this anti-table crusade that you thought you did. Yet you're still doing it. When multiple users are opposing the wiki-wide changes you're making, you should stop until you get a consensus in your favor, be it through a more substantial discussion or a proposal, not just keep doing it. For the record, I don't think the tables for those King of Swing collectibles were overly necessary, since they only featured images of the collectibles themselves rather than the locations, but the point still stands. Dark BonesSig.png 16:49, December 23, 2023 (EST)

Admin here and I have to echo what everyone else has been saying here and say you're changing too many things that honestly don't need to be changed for the most part, not just removing tables, but replacing them with hidden lists (this in particular I really do not see the benefit of, especially for just small sections; sections are already hidden in the default mobile view, and it's more convenient and nicer having the information presented immediately), killing substantial history sections that have separate subsections, and adding tabbers to infoboxes that haven't been approved yet. I understand you're trying to make articles more accessible, but you need to understand that that doesn't mean everyone is going to agree with how you're going about it. (And you've already had multiple people objecting to your edits, which should be an indication to stop and discuss, not simply proceed without a word.) This is a wiki; if these are going to affect a large number of pages, you need to at least get the opinions of other users through discussion or a proposal, let others know what you're doing and why these changes would be helpful. I'm letting you off with one last informal reminder but any more drastic, site-wide layout changes like these without approval may result in a warning, since you were already formally reminded earlier about this. Slow down. Lucina costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 07:03, January 4, 2024 (EST)

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Aight, you got a good number of users, including one bureaucrat, expressing uncertainty or even disapproval regarding some of your recent edits, and you're still doing it. I don't know just what is so difficult for you to grasp that these changes are drastic and controversial enough a discussion with other users is definitely required. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 09:09, January 9, 2024 (EST)

Oh, it was because I saw the DKC world pages were edited, so I wanted to make them consistent. And I summarized the descriptions. Super Game Gear (talk) 09:12, January 9, 2024 (EST)

Minor Edits[edit]

Small but numerous edits (like your edits on NSMB level pages) should be marked as minor to avoid flooding recent changes. MHA Super Mushroom:) at 00:33, December 17, 2023 (EST)

You say, before doing exactly that without marking them. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:06, December 17, 2023 (EST)
i did mark them MHA Super Mushroom:) at 01:41, December 17, 2023 (EST)
Huh, weird, the m didn't show up for me. Sorry. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:45, December 17, 2023 (EST)

Smash Bros.[edit]

Gonna let you know that that is a veritable powder keg discussion, so bluntly saying you want non-Mario content from Smash Bros. purged outright is not going to help your case. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:50, January 5, 2024 (EST)

Not sure I fully understand. A lot of the Smash content is in list pages, since this is a wiki on Super Mario. Super Game Gear (talk) 12:53, January 5, 2024 (EST)
Look at the proposal log and look for the ones that were Smash-related. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:27, January 5, 2024 (EST)

Le tabber inappropriée[edit]

Hello, looking over your contribution history, I've noticed an extremely large amount of uses of the contentious tabber template on pages it was not approved for, such as item and enemy and stage pages. I request that you revert those undiscussed uses, as otherwise, that's a lot more unnecessary work for the rest of us. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:34, January 17, 2024 (EST)

Profiles[edit]

Why are you limiting the preview profiles sections to at most three profiles? There isn't a rule saying you could do that, although I think it allows for less clutter. Don't click Penny PnnyCrygr User contributions 08:31, January 22, 2024 (EST)

There isn't a rule, but I like consistency and figured it would not be a big deal to limit it to three. Super Mario RPG (talk) 08:37, January 22, 2024 (EST)

Last Warning[edit]

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You've been warned before about making sweeping changes without much prior discussion before, and you've continued to do so. We appreciate the initiative, and some of your ideas are very good (I really like the missions template) but you do need to be a bit more careful- there's no harm in making a proposal or starting a talk page too many. And I get you like consistency, but there's no need to overly change titles to Profiles and Statistics- those are not profiles or statistics, and it's fine for different pages to use different titles if that's more appropriate. Just try to ask about big things before you do them moreoften, please. BBQ Turtle (talk) 16:25, February 1, 2024 (EST)

If it helps, I fixed the headings for all of the olympic game events. Super Mario RPG (talk) 16:30, February 1, 2024 (EST)
It does, thank you. BBQ Turtle (talk) 16:46, February 1, 2024 (EST)
Okay, and aside from profiles and statistics what else am i being warned for? Super Mario RPG (talk) 16:48, February 1, 2024 (EST)

I don't think anything Super Mario RPG has done in the past few weeks warrants a last warning. Some of the templates they have created could be better optimized and probably even merged together to make a more universal and elegant template, but the knowledge required to do so comes with experience, the lack of which should not be met with punitive action. Furthermore, the reason they are being warned for here is quite vague--the warning I originally issued followed a lengthy streak of negative feedback from users asking SMRPG to stop acting upon a certain area of the wiki, whereas in this case, they are being bold in a way that isn't disruptive and could in fact improve the wiki, given a little better guidance. In other words, I doubt anyone would feel inclined to warn Super Mario RPG if he set out in his wiki endeavors in this manner, and your criticism is loosely founded on past mistakes that aren't being repeated here. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 17:38, February 1, 2024 (EST)

The trickiest part is knowing the fine line between being bold and what warrants a proposal. For example, tabber had controversy behind unapproved uses, such as from myself, so I made a proposal about extending its usage. It failed, and I helped clean up the unapproved cases, just as I cleaned up the "profiles and statistics" back to "missions" Super Mario RPG (talk) 17:49, February 1, 2024 (EST)
That, again, comes with experience and feedback (but not the "we're threatening to block you" kind of feedback, unless you're being obstinate in your actions, which you haven't been for a while). Since you can't quite appeal an admin's reminder at the moment, I'd encourage admins to discuss the one issued hereof. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 18:00, February 1, 2024 (EST)

I also think the warning is excessive, though I agree that many of the new templates should have at least a modicum of discussion beforehand, especially ones that try to unify style - especially in a manner that itself hasn't been approved by anyone else. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:23, February 1, 2024 (EST)

The rules have changed, now - you may now contest this warning if you feel it was too much. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:41, February 4, 2024 (EST)
I already did. Super Mario RPG (talk) 13:42, February 4, 2024 (EST)

The staff team agrees that Super Mario RPG should not be making too drastic and sweeping changes without prior discussion, which they have been asked to slow down many times, so we believe they still need a kind of warning. However, Super Mario RPG has been constructive and civil in the dispute while trying to undo what they have done, and we also took other user's concerns into consideration. We decided to compromise and lower the warning level from last warning to a warning. See MarioWiki:Appeals/Archive#Super_Mario_RPG. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 15:36, February 9, 2024 (EST)

Nice job on the spirit and trophy templates![edit]

… as well as all the other templates used for official profiles. keep them coming -- KOOPA CON CARNE 07:22, March 27, 2024 (EDT)

Thank you. Super Mario RPG (talk) 12:45, March 27, 2024 (EDT)

Propsal cleaned up[edit]

I cleaned up my proposal by adding the <pre> tags. You should take a look at what the template will look like from above. What do you think how my proposal looks? GuntherBayBeee.jpgGuntherBayBeeeGravity Rush Kat.png 21:16, March 30, 2024 (EDT)

I'm indifferent, since I agree with the idea of adding such a template to articles without citations regardless (and may be willing to even broaden out to in-game citations, depending on the context or controversy of a subject). I'd suggest not spamming everyone's talk page with an update, since we do take a look at the proposals page near daily, and it would be more efficient to notify others from there. Super Mario RPG (talk) 21:20, March 30, 2024 (EDT)

"Unreferenced"[edit]

Our reference policy only encourages references on an as-needed basis; as such, anything where the information can be easily found by playing the game or looking up an online video do not need references. As such, many pages for miscellaneous subjects may not have any references, and that is perfectly fine. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:10, April 10, 2024 (EDT)

The text within the template makes it sound as if it applies to any page without templates, which would make sense, considering how many pages have references. Super Mario RPG (talk) 18:12, April 10, 2024 (EDT)
The template shouldn't be thrown onto every single page on the wiki that doesn't have references. If everything in the article is easily clarified in-game, we don't need sources for those. Bowser Nightwicked Bowser Bowser emblem from Mario Kart 8 19:18, April 10, 2024 (EDT)
Okay, I'll keep in mind. Super Mario RPG (talk) 19:18, April 10, 2024 (EDT)

"don't think Nintendo Land ever had full coverage"[edit]

It did, believe it or not. Mario Wiki's focus used to be a bit poor. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 17:51, April 12, 2024 (EDT)

Deletion templates for Smash redirects[edit]

I noticed you didn't add {{delete}} templates to some of the Smash redirects you went through, such as the various names of Guile. Excluding the fighter redirects (which should all stay), did you just forget to add the templates, or was that on purpose and those redirects should stay? SolemnStormcloud (talk) 21:45, April 12, 2024 (EDT)

I only did it to the redirects that had their corresponding category tagged for deletion (e.g. Kirby and Persona), since I thought that's what the recently passed proposal was about. I do agree that more, like the Street Fighter redirects, should have also been deleted, but I was unsure since it was agreed that some of the series categories would be retained. Super Mario RPG (talk) 21:50, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
How about asking Camwoodstock if those redirects should be deleted? SolemnStormcloud (talk) 21:56, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
We never said to delete any of the redirects--just remove them from the categories, and then delete the categories that were already marked. ~Camwoodstock (talk) 23:05, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
The redirects are all still functional, and later proposals will probably concern them in any case. Super Mario RPG (talk) 15:31, April 13, 2024 (EDT)

Pardon me, but who exactly gave you the go-ahead to mark a bunch of images for deletion? No proposal on that has occurred, of that I am certain. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 03:07, April 14, 2024 (EDT)

Our proposal also had nothing to do with deleting redirects, let alone touching the Assist Trophy or Final Smash articles at all... ~Camwoodstock (talk) 12:17, April 14, 2024 (EDT)
I mean, the option that won in that proposal had "Prune all Smash-related redirects" as a stated goal. Call me an ESL filth but my understanding of "pruning" is "removing (superfluous things)", and Super Mario RPG is trying to have that done. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 12:25, April 14, 2024 (EDT)
"Pruning [the categories] from [the redirects]," as the proposal was solely about categories. Regardless of what it was about, SMRPG here is going majorly out-of-line. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:39, April 14, 2024 (EDT)
Yes, Koopa con Carne is right. That was my definition of "pruning" as well. Smash Bros. coverage is a controversial issue here. It would take a very long time to empty the deletion category, which has about 600 items in it already. However, I suppose a concern is if more urgent things in that category needed to be deleted, like inappropriate content or spam. All the images marked were unused, not even appearing on the Super Smash Bros. list pages, and I realized there's a few I hadn't even got to marking for deletion. The redirects proposal had some misunderstanding going around, and the redirects are still functional, even with the deletion tags intact. Super Mario RPG (talk) 15:58, April 14, 2024 (EDT)
Just because an image goes unused doesn't automatically mean it's eligible for deletion. Most of these Smash screenshots used to be included in pages that focused on individual non-Mario fighters, and got left out when these pages were merged into lists--even though the proposal that decided how these lists are organized specifically stated that all images would be carried over. Take File:Gordo Throw Wii U.jpgMedia:Gordo Throw Wii U.jpg for instance; it was part of King Dedede's original page, where it illustrated one of his special moves, but since it was decided through a previous proposal to trim away detailed info on special moves pertaining to non-Mario folk, the user who originally did the merging simply wasn't considerate enough to re-integrate the pic into Dedede's new entry. Doc is right that these images shouldn't have been tagged for deletion; there's nothing in those aforementioned proposals that advocated treating them as such. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 17:15, April 14, 2024 (EDT)

Regardless of your opinions, you need to seriously cool it with your unprompted anti-Smash frenzy before you receive another official warning. CWS said above that they didn't want redirects deleted in what was their proposal, and no one said they wanted images deleted. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:16, April 14, 2024 (EDT)

Last warning[edit]

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Apologies for the delay, and while I don't want to scare you, we've noticed again that you have been undertaking sweeping changes in a fashion other users have taken issue with. In this instance, this is referring to an attempt at enacting a proposal[1] by Camwoodstock without really carefully adhering to their project guidelines (you probably should've asked for clarification of the semantics of Camwoodstock's proposal). This is on top of the multiple instances of unsubstantiated {{unreferenced}} templates that were placed on the page. This last warning is a continuation of the previous compromised warning you've received, that you have been making broad and sweeping changes without proper vetting from the community. I strongly suggest you proceed very cautiously and refrain from making these edits again and focus more on straightforward projects that less users take issue with. If you're not sure what to do, try to focus making changes on one page only (or two pages if it's a merge; the idea is to limit your scope), one big page may do the trick (focus on more repetitive improvements like, say, filling out Mario's appearance list on Mario's page?) rather than try to enact changes that affect multiple pages. That way it's easier to vet mistakes being made. Please be careful, and take care! Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 18:34, April 18, 2024 (EDT)

RE:archive[edit]

Oh, I noticed it on the MIPS page, too. Is it a wiki bug? That's pretty strange. Maybe contact Porple about it. LinkTheLefty (talk) 14:03, April 20, 2024 (EDT)