MarioWiki:Proposals

Current time: Monday, May 27th, 15:04 GMT

Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken. "Vote" periods last for one week. Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so (not, e.g., "I like this idea!"). All proposals must be approved by a majority of voters, including proposals with more than two options. For past proposals, see the proposal archive and the talk page proposal archive.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.

How to

Rules

1. If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
2. Only registered, autoconfirmed users can create, comment in, or vote on proposals and talk page proposals. Users may vote for more than one option, but they may not vote for every option available.
3. Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts, except for writing guidelines and talk page proposals, which run for two weeks (all times GMT).
   • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
4. Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
5. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
   • Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
6. If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
7. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
8. Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
9. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week. Proposals with more than two options must also be extended another week if any single option does not have a majority support: i.e. more than half of the total number of voters must appear in a single voting option, rather than one option simply having more votes than the other options.
10. If a proposal with only two voting options has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail with a margin of at least three votes, otherwise the deadline will be extended for another week as if no majority was reached at all.
11. Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
12. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
13. If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
14. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation (six days for talk page proposals). However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
15. Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
16. Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
17. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
18. Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.

Basic proposal and support/oppose format

This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.

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===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created (14 for writing guidelines and talk page proposals), at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "May 27, 2024, 23:59 GMT"]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments====

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Users will now be able to vote on your proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}}" at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can just say "Per my proposal".

Talk page proposals

All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.

For a list of all settled talk page proposals, see MarioWiki:Proposals/TPP archive and Category:Settled talk page proposals.

Rules

1. All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPPDiscuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{SettledTPP}}.
2. All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How to" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
3. Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one (all times GMT).
   • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
4. The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.
5. When a talk page proposal passes, it should be removed from this list and included in the list under the "Unimplemented proposals" section until the proposed changes have been enacted.

List of ongoing talk page proposals

• In Template:Species infobox, expand "Relatives" guidelines to include variant-type relationships with significant differences between species (discuss) Deadline: May 12, 2024, 23:59 GMT Extended to May 19, 2024, 23:59 GMT Extended to May 26, 2024, 23:59 GMT
• Add a Composers Subsection to Template:Themes (discuss) Deadline: May 28, 2024, 23:59 GMT
• Include Rainbow Coaster & Rainbow Downhill back in the Rainbow Road article (discuss) Deadline: May 28, 2024, 23:59 GMT
• Split the contents of the blimp page (discuss) Deadline: May 28, 2024, 23:59 GMT
• Create a Rewrite-remove template (discuss) Deadline: May 30, 2024, 23:59 GMT
• Decide whether to redesign the Main Page (discuss) Deadline: June 1, 2024, 23:59 GMT
• Consider Spike Top derived from both Buzzy Beetles and Spinies (discuss) Deadline: June 4, 2024, 23:59 GMT
• Merge Iron Cleft with The Iron Adonis Twins (discuss) Deadline: June 6, 2024, 23:59 GMT
• Merge Meat (object) with Meat (discuss) Deadline: June 6, 2024, 23:59 GMT
• Re-merge Frog (Yoshi's Story) with Frog (discuss) Deadline: June 7, 2024, 23:59 GMT
• Move the chef-based recipe lists (such as List of Tayce T. recipes) to game-based ones (discuss) Deadline: June 9, 2024, 23:59 GMT
• Merge the corresponding chef-named recipes (discuss) Deadline: June 9, 2024, 23:59 GMT
• Merge Silver Credit and Gold Credit to Silver Card and Golden Card, respectively (discuss) Deadline: June 9, 2024, 23:59 GMT
• Move Moo Moo back to cow (discuss) Deadline: June 10, 2024, 23:59 GMT

Unimplemented proposals

Proposals

Merge the Wrecking Crew and VS. Wrecking Crew phases into list articles, Axis (ended February 24, 2022)

Do not consider usage of classic recurring themes as references to the game of origin, Swallow (ended March 9, 2022)

Split Mario Kart Tour character variants into list articles, Tails777 (ended May 4, 2022)

Enforce WCAG Level AA standards to mainspace and template content, PanchamBro (ended May 29, 2022)

Change how RPG enemy infoboxes classify role, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 18, 2022)

Trim away detailed special move information for all non-Mario fighters, Koopa con Carne (ended January 30, 2023)

• ^Note: This has yet to be done with with several non–Super Mario fighters who still have their own page; namely, Banjo, Fox, Inkling, Isabelle, Kirby, Link, Mega Man, Pac-Man, R.O.B., Sonic, and Villager.

Classify the Just Dance series as a guest appearance, Spectrogram (ended April 27, 2023)

Establish a standard for long course listings in articles for characters/enemies/items/etc., Koopa con Carne (ended June 8, 2023)

Consider filenames as sources and create redirects, Axis (ended August 24, 2023)

Add tabbers to race/battle course articles, GuntherBB (ended November 18, 2023)

Remove elemental creatures categories from various Super Mario RPG enemies, Swallow (ended January 11, 2024)

Standardize the formatting of foreign and explanatory words and phrases in "Names in other languages" tables, Annalisa10 (ended February 7, 2024)

Merge Super Mario Bros. (film) subjects with their game counterparts, JanMisali (ended April 18, 2024)

Remove profiles and certain other content related to the Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia from the wiki, Koopa con Carne (ended April 30, 2024)

Break alphabetical order in enemy lists to list enemy variants below their base form, EvieMaybe (ended May 21, 2024)

Talk page proposals

Split all the clothing, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 12, 2021)

Split the various reissues of Mario Bros., Doc von Schmeltwick (ended April 22, 2022)

Split machine parts, Robo-Rabbit, and flag from Super Duel Mode, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 30, 2022)

Expand source priority exception to include regional English differences, LinkTheLefty (ended January 14, 2023)

Add product IDs in game infoboxes, Windy (ended March 18, 2023)

Remove the list of Super Smash Bros. series objects, Axis (ended May 10, 2023)

Split Special Shot into separate articles by game, Technetium (ended September 30, 2023)

Convert the lists of episode appearances for television series characters into categories, Camwoodstock (ended November 22, 2023)

Change the Super Mario 64 DS level section to include more specific character requirements, Altendo (ended December 20, 2023)

Split the Jungle Buddies from Animal Friends, DrippingYellow (ended December 22, 2023)

Make bestiary list pages for the Minion Quest and Bowser Jr.'s Journey modes, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024)

Merge the ghost Bats and Mice from Luigi's Mansion to their respective organic counterparts from the later games, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 20, 2024)

Split Strobomb from Robomb, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 20, 2024)

Split the NES and SNES releases of Wario's Woods, SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (ended March 27, 2024)

Merge Mii Brawler, Mii Swordfighter, and Mii Gunner to Mii, TheUndescribableGhost (ended March 28, 2024)

Split Mario's Time Machine (Nintendo Entertainment System), or the Super Nintendo Entertainment version along with both console versions of Mario is Missing!, LinkTheLefty (ended April 11, 2024)

Remove non-Super Mario content from Super Smash Bros. series challenges articles, BMfan08 (ended May 3, 2024)

Merge Stompybot 3000 with Colonel Pluck, DrippingYellow (ended May 4, 2024)

Split "Team Dinosaur" from The Dinosaurs, Blinker (ended May 15, 2024)

Rename Moneybags to Moneybag (enemy), Hewer (ended May 20, 2024)

Delete Memory Card, Nightwicked Bowser (ended May 23, 2024)

Writing guidelines

Clarify stance on Japanese-derived internal names

The wiki's policy on official name priority seems to suggest that they are only to be used if there is a distinct lack of official English names. However, there's a notable grey area in this policy: what are we intended to do when the internal names are derived from Japanese words, but typed out in English letters? There are a few article titles that come to mind where the official Japanese name is used instead of the internal name: several Super Mario Bros. Wonder enemies, including Suppoko (formerly "Uminoko"), and a few Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat enemies such as Gōrumondo (known as "Garigari" in the files). Uminoko and Garigari are clearly derived from Japanese words, so the question is: should we consider these kinds of internal names Japanese names, or English names?

Proposer: DrippingYellow (talk)
Deadline: January 5, 2023, 23:59 GMT

Consider them Japanese names, use names in official material over internal names

1. DrippingYellow (talk) I don't think we should consider these English names, even if they are written in English characters for the purposes of file organization.

New features

Allow the {{tabber}} template to be used with infobox images for {{game infobox}}

I just saw something on WiKirby, and game pages have box arts, cover arts, and logos in different regions. Right now, I was wondering if the Super Mario Wiki could allow the {{tabber}} template to be used with infobox images for the {{game infobox}} template. I created some samples for Super Mario Odyssey and Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars, that way you'll never need to go to the respective games' image galleries. Here's an example:

Super Mario Odyssey
Developer	Nintendo EPD Tokyo, 1-UP Studio
Publisher	Nintendo Tencent Games (China)
Platform(s)	Nintendo Switch
Release date	October 27, 2017 October 27, 2017 October 27, 2017 October 27, 2017 October 27, 2017 October 27, 2017 December 1, 2017 December 1, 2017 March 16, 2020
Language(s)	Deutsch English (United States) Español (España) Español (Latinoamérica) Français (Canada) Français (France) Italiano Nederlands Русский 한국어 日本語 简体中文 繁體中文
Genre	3D platformer, action-adventure
Rating(s)	ESRB: - Everyone 10+ PEGI: - Seven years and older CERO: - Twelve years and older ACB: - Parental Guidance USK: - Six years and older DEJUS: - General audience RARS: - Six years and older GRAC: - All ages CADPA: - Eight years and older GSRR: - Six years and older FPB: - Parental guidance GCAM: - Seven years and older NMC: - Seven years and older
Mode(s)	Single player, two-player co-op
Media	Nintendo Switch: Game Card Digital download
Input	Nintendo Switch: Joy-Con Nintendo Switch Pro Controller Nintendo GameCube Controller

Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars
Developer	Nintendo Software Technology Corporation Nintendo SPD Group No.3
Publisher	Nintendo
Platform(s)	Wii U Nintendo 3DS
Release date	March 5, 2015 March 19, 2015 March 20, 2015 March 21, 2015
Genre	Puzzle
Rating(s)	ESRB: - Everyone PEGI: - Three years and older ACB: - General USK: - All ages
Mode(s)	Single-player
Media	Wii U: Optical disc Digital download Nintendo 3DS: Game Card Digital download
Input	Wii U: Wii U GamePad Nintendo 3DS: Gamepad

Proposer: GuntherBB (talk)
Deadline: January 5, 2024, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. GuntherBB (talk) Per proposal
2. Hewer (talk) Per proposal.
3. Super Game Gear (talk) I love the feeling of easily toggling between thumbnail-size images whenever possible rather than refer to tiny gallery images, which makes it hard to compare without opening in separate tabs.

Oppose

1. Camwoodstock (talk) We feel like tabbers should be used sparingly--namely, when (hopefully a small amount of) different designs for things are used at the same time, concurrently. Boxart and logos would be much better suited for a gallery; there's just too many of them, and they aren't really "different"; it's almost always the same core design, just with different text. Sure, there's exceptions to that, but they're just that--exceptions--that is definitely not the norm for localized boxarts. Just because we have tabbers doesn't mean we need to use them all the time, y'know... ;P
2. Swallow (talk) Tabbers may seem like a convenient idea on paper, however since I heard that it only works with java script which not all devices may support, it may be best for the courtesy of any kind of reader to refrain from using tabbers period.
3. Koopa con Carne (talk) One variant of the box art is enough. Setting aside my personal dislike of the tabber format, it's best to only employ it when the subject has different concurrent appearances--or, concerning Mario Party/Kart levels, when the image in the infobox depicts a more modern rendition of the level's original appearance. Per Camwoodstock.
4. Tails777 (talk) Per Camwoodstock and Swallow.
5. Waluigi Time (talk) Per all.
6. LadySophie17 (talk) Per all.
7. Mario (talk) No, and tabbers should not be used in the wiki unless there's an absolutely good scenario which I have yet to see.
8. Mushroom Head (talk) Per all.
9. PnnyCrygr (talk) If one turns off javascript the infobox will just be a paddy column full of images

Comments

i think it should only be used when there's two very different boxarts. if we're gonna be toggling between a bunch of nearly identical boxes with different stamps on the bottom we might as well not have the tabber at all. now, a game like yoshi's island, where the japanese and international boxarts are VERY different, it might be worth considering. is there a way to solve the javascript tabber issue, anyways? EvieMaybe (talk) 21:53, December 29, 2023 (EST)

Removals

None at the moment.

Changes

Split the "[remake title] + [completely new game title]" games

Something that's been itching on my mind for a while. In the case of games (predominantly remakes) where there is what amounts to two separate games on one pack, we cover them both on one page, despite the needless bloat and resultant detail-cutting this causes. The games I am talking about specifically are Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey, and Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury, though I want this to create a precedent for any later releases to come. The respective title mentioned after the "+" is, for all intents and purposes, a completely new game that shares a pack and assets with the former (along with a storyline and setting for the M&L ones, albeit with a different focus). The gameplay itself is radically different for each, and along with being given their own titles, they are treated as a "two games in one" style multipack, like, say, Zelda's A Link to the Past + Four Swords (which were also the only way to play GBA-type ALttP and FS prior to the latter's limited-run DSiWare enhanced port, I may add).

I suppose the main reason they aren't split is that we generally discourage splitting modes from the game pages. And while that's fine in, say, Mario Party games where different modes amount to a different set dressing and order of what is done, these have radically different features and play styles, so it's not comparable. Plus, one particular mode in one Mario Party game, Super Duel Mode, is so massively different from the rest of the game it gets its own page.

I also find this to be similar to the Mario Bros. Classic included on GBA games; though of course, it has to be split considering it was on no less than five carts.

Proposer: Doc von Schmeltwick (talk)
Deadline: December 28, 2023, 23:59 GMT

Support + Toadsworth's Trials

1. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) - Per
2. Swallow (talk) This was something I considered proposing myself a little while ago but was a bit hesitant to do so.
3. SolemnStormcloud (talk) Per Proposal + Solemn's Solitude.
4. Camwoodstock (talk) Per all + Cam & Tori's Puzzle League. We feel like these "side-modes" they keep adding in these re-releases (which, let's be real here, these are basically new full campaigns) generally go less documented just because we have to fuse them together into articles. It'd be like if every article on Inkipedia had to combine Octo Expansion with base Splatoon 2; we feel like how they handle things would be a good model for what these split articles could look like, actually.
5. PnnyCrygr (talk) Per Everyone + Dr. Crygor's Mix-Ups
6. Pseudo (talk) Per all, particularly Camwoodstock.
7. Jdtendo (talk) Per all + Jdtendo's New Campaign that Could Be a Game in and of Itself
8. BMfan08 (talk) Follow the riveting tale of one user's vote in BMfan08's Decision + Baby Mario's Quest for a Bottle of Milk, available in most retail stores! (Per all.)
9. EvieMaybe (talk) per all + dedede's drum dash

Comments + Pauline's Concerto

Just to be certain, if we split articles like Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury, that means the original Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury gets to stay too, right? Of course, the relevant Bowser's Fury information would get its own article, but the game is still sold as the Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury package, and Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury also boasts several differences in the Super Mario 3D World half compared to the original Wii U release.
On another note, games like Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions and Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey are actually called Mario & Luigi RPG 1 DX and Mario & Luigi RPG 3 DX in Japan, so I think in their case, it's more appropriate to use the game mode's name for the respective latter halves' articles... which in Bowser's Minions's case, would be Minion Quest: The Search for Bowser. rend (talk) (edits) 07:30, December 23, 2023 (EST)

Of course. Though with that note on the Japanese names, I suppose we won't need to split the M&L campaigns as well, unless they're lacking the DX on the in-game select. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:53, December 23, 2023 (EST)

Disallow the use of individual promotional artwork in character -- history -- sections

An illustration of a video game controller with the words "Image not available" overlaid above it, used as an image placeholder in the Super Mario Wiki

To see what I am talking about, check out Mario's history article. There are a bunch of white/transparent backdropped promotional artwork thumbnails spread across the whole article. They are pointless, why such? Such these mainly pad the article and serve no purpose other than to ornament the section with color or illustrations. Worse, some have captions that state the obvious or lack thereof. In History of Mario (example again) there is a picture of Mario jumping in Super Mario Bros. Wonder section, only for the caption to say: "Mario in Super Mario Bros. Wonder". Others like the images in article's sections for Dr. Mario World and Super Mario-kun lack captions and are just promotional art.

There should be a rule in the (MarioWiki) name space that should probably state that

In the character's respective "History" section, images should have a useful purpose to exist in the section (e.g. clearly explain the role of the character in the game) rather than merely illustrating or decorating the section. Promotional images depicting the character's appearance only are discouraged in order to prevent padding.

This proposal concerns image use in history sections, NOT every section in the character articles. If this proposal wins, these transparent image thumbnails in history sections should be replaced with screencaps, have some sort of plot device depicted concretely, or be captioned usefully. How would it feel?

Proposer: PnnyCrygr (talk)
Deadline: January 5, 2024, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. PnnyCrygr (talk) Per proposal

Sparks (talk) Per PnnyCrygr. Showing screenshots definitely beats past artwork without gameplay.

Oppose

1. Koopa con Carne (talk) not all promo artwork illustrates a character's appearance in a game the best it can, but that doesn't invalidate the ones who do. Case in point, the Super Mario Wonder render very concisely shows how Mario was also subjected to that game's unique aesthetic direction; an entire screenshot with various extraneous elements wouldn't communicate that as efficiently. The choice of a particular image for a section should fall under the editors' discretion and, at most, be discussed individually among users.
2. Biggestman (talk) Per Koopa con Carne. also it's just more fun to read something if there are images.
3. Waluigi Time (talk) While I can agree that these are overused and that screenshots from the game may sometimes be better for illustration than promotional artwork, a full ban from using them for history sections at all is overkill and probably going to do more harm than good. If a piece of artwork isn't illustrating something well, then it can just be replaced, that's the collaborative nature of the wiki.
4. FanOfYoshi (talk) This doesn't sit well with me. Per all.
5. Swallow (talk) Per all
6. Camwoodstock (talk) Per KCC--in plenty of games, screenshots can generally end up super noisy with other elements to them; not just UI, but entire enemies, other items, other characters... A screenshot is only as clear as it is focused on exactly one element, and if literally anything else is in frame, it kinda falls flat. While we can understand maybe replacing, say, Super Mario-kun's image with a scan from the manga itself, there's no real reason in the case Super Mario Bros. Wonder to force a screenshot of Mario in that game, when a render that is very specifically of Mario in that game would do the trick just as well.
7. Sparks (talk) Changing my vote to oppose. The characters' artwork does show how the character has evolved over the years as well. Per all.
8. Mario (talk) In Mario's page, I did look over the images used in the history section and Ive personally justified their inclusion. We should be trimming images on these longer pages though. We don't need a promo render for every New Soupy Goomba in the history section when Goomba hasn't changed in the slightest.
9. Hewer (talk) Per all, this would be a pretty pointless limitation that would hardly solve anything.
10. Mushroom Head (talk) Per all.

Comments

Fine. I consider now that images should be in the history section to illustrate a characters evolution over the games, with one subsection having a promo art for that. Proposal shall be failed inevitably and shall keep all those images. it isn't ripe for cancelling  ^P_nn^yC_ryg^r  18:17, December 29, 2023 (EST)

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.