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#{{User|LuigiMaster123}} Per proposal.
#{{User|LuigiMaster123}} Per proposal.
#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} I'm fairly certain you can't place this enemy without a Magnet Sparky Generator in Construction Zone, so though it's not quite a toy, this behavior difference alone is enough to set it apart.
#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} I'm fairly certain you can't place this enemy without a Magnet Sparky Generator in Construction Zone, so though it's not quite a toy, this behavior difference alone is enough to set it apart.
#{{User|LUIGIRULES71}} OK. Per all.


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Watt isn't related. Watt is a lil' sparky. HK

What's the related species in Yoshi's Island?--Sticklyman (talk) 09:35, 8 August 2012 (EDT)

Piro Dangle. LUIGIRULES71

"Sparky"

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What we have here is a creature with a plethora of different, but similar Japanese names, while Piro Dangle and Wire Trap, which both share a Japanese name with one of those but have different English names,m are listed separate, despite still attacking about the same. Either way, some of these travel on wires, some travel along surfaces, who are we to say they're intended to be the same thing? I find it rather unlikely that an enemy from Donkey Kong Jr. was intended to be in Yume Kojo: Doki Doki Panikku. I'm not sure that this page should be renamed so much as split. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:18, 5 November 2017 (EST)

For what it's worth, while Perfect Ban Mario Character Daijiten is a wee bit split-heavy, it does group the Donkey Kong Jr. and Game Boy Donkey Kong Sparks together, even though they're both pretty different and the change is noted in the description. It also lists the Super Mario USA Spark separately, but it is also mildly renamed from the Super Mario Bros. 2 Spark, with which it shares its name as stated in its profile (it, along with Tweeter and Flurry, wasn't listed in the Doki Doki Panic manual). Although the original intention isn't clear, given the existing Mario references already in Doki Doki Panic (POW, Stars...), I see little point in splitting off that game's Spark - the Sparkies in March of the Minis / Mini-Land Mayhem! even have a similar design, which would seem to solidify the connection. I'm also willing to believe that the Game Boy Donkey Kong (and, by extension, Mario vs. Donkey Kong) Sparks/Sparkies are at least a reference to the Donkey Kong Jr. version. I think, at the very least, Wire Traps should be grouped together with the wire Spark(y)s; Piro Dangle, though, is obviously a fire creature instead of an electrical one, so I believe that one is a case of coincidental naming. That said, it does make sense to split the article between the enemy's platform-based and wire-based versions, but at the end of the day, both types would still be Sparkies going by recent, common naming. LinkTheLefty (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2017 (EST)
Piro Dangle seems to take more from Hothead than anything truly fiery, actually. And it acts just like a slow version of the SMB2 Sparks, except it de-energizes sometimes, which I'm still not sure if that is a "weak moment" or anything. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:24, 5 November 2017 (EST)
If Piro Dangle is deliberately Spark but the fact just got lost in translation, it would be just about the last Yoshi's Island enemy to be moved back to its intended counterpart. It still looks like a ball of flame, though, which is additionally noted in its Shogakukan description. Since they apparently reappeared in Yoshi's New Island, I'm curious to know if their name was also changed to Sparky there - and if so, the current name matching would confirm to me without doubt that it's definitely supposed to be the same thing or is at least closely related in some way (after all, they did do the same thing for Ukiki). LinkTheLefty (talk) 19:09, 5 November 2017 (EST)
Well technically there's still Spiked Fun Guy, which didn't appear in YNI due to vanilla Pokeys appearing, and them having the same JP name, just absurdly different appearances and attack patters in comparison to other enemies in that game.... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:40, 5 November 2017 (EST)
i'm Confused...i Think We Should Split Them For Now? LUIGIRULES71

Split Magnet Sparky from Spark

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Given our recent re-split of Mega Mole and Morty Mole, I consider this to be a similar case. Plus, the plethora of confusion surrounding the aforementioned case doesn't apply here, as Magnet Sparkies actually have patterns that make them unique from Sparkies; they only travel along Magnet edges, and they enter certain (officially named) generators on the Magnets for brief periods of time.

Proposer: Toadette the Achiever (talk)
Deadline: April 23, 2018, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Toadette the Achiever (talk) Per proposal.
  2. Niiue (talk) Per proposal.
  3. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) Been hoping someone would propose this (I've had a lot on my plate recently to make proposals), thank you! Per proposal.
  4. DerpyLobster (talk) Yeah, they probably should...
  5. BubbleRevolution (talk) Per proposal.
  6. TheFlameChomp (talk) Per proposal.
  7. LuigiMaster123 (talk) Per proposal.
  8. LinkTheLefty (talk) I'm fairly certain you can't place this enemy without a Magnet Sparky Generator in Construction Zone, so though it's not quite a toy, this behavior difference alone is enough to set it apart.
  9. LUIGIRULES71 (talk) OK. Per all.

Oppose

Comments

This refers to both of the MvsDK Sparks, right? Since they both followed the "Magnetized Surface" rule? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:53, 8 April 2018 (EDT)

Yes. Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 01:05, 9 April 2018 (EDT)
I am honestly so confused.DerpyLobster 1:15, 9 April 2018 (EDT)