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Found the picture! So what do you guys think? The same or different? -- [[User:Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]] | Found the picture! So what do you guys think? The same or different? -- [[User:Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]] | ||
Same. It's Croctopus. [[Image: | Same. It's Croctopus. [[Image:MayorPenguinPM.png]]<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''[[User talk:Paper Jorge|aper]] '''[[User:Paper Jorge/sig|Jorge]]'''</font></span> | ||
Okay, can someone who knows what that Croctopus is doing in [[Jolly Roger's Lagoon]] add it to the article. -- [[User:Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]] | Okay, can someone who knows what that Croctopus is doing in [[Jolly Roger's Lagoon]] add it to the article. -- [[User:Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]] | ||
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Well he is trying to block [[Banjo]] from passing. he is in a large room. He will move his tentacles up and down. Banjo has to swim and avoid. | Well he is trying to block [[Banjo]] from passing. he is in a large room. He will move his tentacles up and down. Banjo has to swim and avoid. | ||
Also there are about three or two in that level. [[Image: | Also there are about three or two in that level. [[Image:MayorPenguinPM.png]]<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''[[User talk:Paper Jorge|aper]] '''[[User:Paper Jorge/sig|Jorge]]'''</font></span> | ||
What's the official name of this character (and the source)? We can't just assume it's a Croctopus. -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]] | What's the official name of this character (and the source)? We can't just assume it's a Croctopus. -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]] | ||
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P.S. The website I got that image from, Dkvine.com even has a joke caption for the picture, "The return of Croctopus!". | P.S. The website I got that image from, Dkvine.com even has a joke caption for the picture, "The return of Croctopus!". | ||
==Croctopi?== | |||
Is there any evidence for the plural form "Croctopi"? {{User:Time Q/sig}} 10:14, 30 July 2009 (EDT) | |||
:Well, -us is a common ending in Latin, and it's plural form is -i, so I'd say "Croctopi" is correct. - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 01:03, 28 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
Croctopuses make little sense grammatically, so I assume Croctopi is the correct plural form. Since there really isn't any evidence for what the correct plural form is, let's just go with the grammatically correct term.--{{User|Knife}} 15:13, 29 December 2009 (EST) | |||
:"Croctopuses" does make sense: according to [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/octopus#Usage_notes Wiktionary], "octopuses" is the most common plural form of "octopus" (other forms are "octopi" and "octopodes"). Also, there are two different -us endings in Latin, only one of which has the plural form -i (it's not the "octop-us" one). {{User:Time Q/sig}} 08:34, 30 December 2009 (EST) | |||
<blockquote>(other forms are "octopi" and "octopodes")</blockquote> | |||
"Octopi" is still among the correct forms, so there's no problem. - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 08:48, 30 December 2009 (EST) | |||
According to Donkey Kong Country (1), the correct plural form for croctopus is croctopus; the plural is the same as the singular. This is shown when Funky's challenge is to catch fifteen ''croctupus''(Funky's fishing, which is only in Game Boy versions of DKC) in the Monkey Mines area. Also, the name of the level in the Gorilla Glacier area is "Croctopus Chase" not "Croctopi Chase." --[[User:The Retro Gamer|The Retro Gamer]] ([[User talk:The Retro Gamer|talk]]) 09:09, 16 June 2014 (EDT) | |||
The correct forms of plural are "octopuses" and "octopodes," as it is a Greek word, not a Latin word. Therefore, "octopi" is outright incorrect, regardless of how common it is used. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:15, 16 May 2017 (CT) | |||
:Many English dictionaries accept "octopuses", "octopi", and "octopodes" as acceptable plural terms. -pi may not be a correct suffix in Greek, but it is in English. And since this is an English wiki, it is acceptable. See the Wiktionary link {{User|Gabumon}} linked to above. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:21, 16 May 2017 (EDT) | |||
::Language is ever-changing and ever-adapting. It doesn't matter how the word was used some few thousand years ago; octopi is commonly used today, so it's perfectly acceptable. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 18:32, 16 May 2017 (EDT) | |||
:It looks highly unprofessional, and as the Oxford Dictionary site points out here (https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/explore/what-are-the-plurals-of-octopus-hippopotamus-syllabus), it is also grammatically incorrect in English, not just Greek. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:10, 16 May 2017 (CT) | |||
::Time Turner's argument is just an argumentum ad populum. Just because the usage of "octopi" is common doesn't necessarily make it correct. The "language is changing" excuse is not an escape hatch to misuse terminology. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:13, 16 May 2017 (EDT) | |||
::Also, there's this chart I found on [http://writingexplained.org/octopuses-or-octopi-difference Writing Explained]. | |||
http://writingexplained.org/wp-content/uploads/Octopuses-versus-octopi.png | |||
::"Octopuses" is far more accepted than "octopi". {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:20, 16 May 2017 (EDT) | |||
:::Yes, but "octopi" is hardly uncommon, either. At some point in the future, perhaps "octopi" will overtake "octopuses", just as "today" was once "to day", just as "alright" has taken a place alongside "all right". {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 19:25, 16 May 2017 (EDT) | |||
::::Turner, you're just grasping at straws at this point. The "maybe it will be in the future" argument makes absolutely no sense. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:27, 16 May 2017 (CT) | |||
::::So, I think it's safe to say we can put the [sic] back in the page quote. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:55, 17 May 2017 (CT) | |||
:::::Considering that "octopi" is in literally every dictionary, putting [sic] in the quote is factually incorrect. Not liking a word doesn't make it less of a word. [[User:Niiue|Niiue]] ([[User talk:Niiue|talk]]) 23:09, 17 May 2017 (EDT) | |||
::::::I don't think the [sic] is needed for the "Crotopi" quote, as the Inkling Girl trophy in Smash Bros. uses it as a pun and they occasionally misuse terminology in their trophies and official descriptions, but as an encyclopedia, we should stick to "octopuses" when describing them. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 23:43, 17 May 2017 (EDT) | |||
:::::::Yeah, if -pi is used in quotes, we should leave it alone, though we should try to use -puses or -podes whenever we can in actual articles. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 00:40, 18 May 2017 (EDT) | |||
::::::::I don't really agree with -podes, though. I think we should just follow what the scientists say, which is referring to them as "octopuses". {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 01:33, 18 May 2017 (EDT) | |||
:::::::::"Not liking a word doesn't make it any less of a word." No, but the link to Oxford Dictionary.com I posted up there makes it not a word. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:37, 18 May 2017 (CT) | |||
::::::::::Technically, it is a word. An informal word, but a word nonetheless. [[User:Niiue|Niiue]] ([[User talk:Niiue|talk]]) 03:35, 18 May 2017 (EDT) | |||
:::::::::::Alright, just don't accuse me of things like that, please. Now, I suppose there's no problem keeping a slang word in a quote without a [sic], so I'll just leave the issue be. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:41, 18 May 2017 (CT) | |||