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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
- "Vote" periods last for one week.
- Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so (not, e.g., "I like this idea!").
- All proposals must be approved by a majority of voters, including proposals with more than two options.
- For past proposals, see the proposal archive and the talk page proposal archive.
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A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.
How to
Rules
- If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
- Only registered, autoconfirmed users can create, comment in, or vote on proposals and talk page proposals. Users may vote for more than one option on proposals with more than two choices.
- Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts, except for writing guidelines and talk page proposals, which run for two weeks (all times GMT).
- For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
- Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
- Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
- Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
- If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
- No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
- Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
- All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week. Proposals with more than two options must also be extended another week if any single option does not have a majority support: i.e. more than half of the total number of voters must appear in a single voting option, rather than one option simply having more votes than the other options.
- If a proposal with only two voting options has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes, otherwise the deadline will be extended for another week as if no majority was reached at all.
- Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
- All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
- If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
- Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation (six days for talk page proposals). However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
- Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
- Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
- No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
- Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.
Basic proposal and support/oppose format
This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.
===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]
'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created (14 for writing guidelines and talk page proposals), at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "May 9, 2024, 23:59 GMT"]
====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]
====Oppose====
====Comments====
Users will now be able to vote on your proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.
To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}}" at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can just say "Per my proposal".
Talk page proposals
All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.
- For a list of all settled talk page proposals, see MarioWiki:Proposals/TPP archive and Category:Settled talk page proposals.
Rules
- All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPPDiscuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{SettledTPP}}.
- All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How to" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
- Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one (all times GMT).
- For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
- The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.
- When a talk page proposal passes, it should be removed from this list and included in the list under the "Unimplemented proposals" section until the proposed changes have been enacted.
List of ongoing talk page proposals
- Potentially consider the Donkey Konga series, Barrel Blast, or Jungle Beat as related to DKC (discuss) Deadline: May 9th, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Replace Princess Peach: Showtime!#Plays with Sparkle Theater (discuss) Deadline: May 10, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Bar Spin to Wire Spin (discuss) Deadline: May 10, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Consider Beanies and Octoombas to be related to Goombas rather than direct variants of them (for consistency with Galoomba et al.) (discuss) Deadline: May 10, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Split "Baby Fat" from Baby Yoshi (discuss) Deadline: May 10, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- In Template:Species infobox, expand "Relatives" guidelines to include variant-type relationships with significant differences between species (discuss) Deadline: May 12, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Split Speed Mario Bros. from Ultimate NES Remix (discuss) Deadline: May 12, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Arrow Switch with gravity switch (discuss) Deadline: May 13, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Re-merge Pixels with List of references in film (discuss) Deadline: May 13, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Rename Moneybags to Moneybag (enemy) (discuss) Deadline: May 13, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Split "Team Dinosaur" from The Dinosaurs (discuss) Deadline: May 15, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Hat trampoline (Cascade Kingdom) to Trampoline (discuss) Deadline: May 15th, 2024, 23:59 GMT
Unimplemented proposals
Proposals
- ^Note: This has yet to be done with with several non–Super Mario fighters who still have their own page; namely, Banjo, Fox, Inkling, Isabelle, Kirby, Link, Mega Man, Pac-Man, R.O.B., Sonic, and Villager.
Talk page proposals
List of talk page proposals
- Split the WarioWare: Touched! and WarioWare Gold versions of Clawing for More (discuss) Deadline: February 19, 2020, 23:59 GMT
- Reverse earlier proposal to split Bad Luck Space and Extra Bad Luck Space (discuss) Deadline: February 25, 2020, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Super Soda and Fresh Juice (discuss) Deadline: February 26, 2020, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Fright Jar and Fright Mask (discuss) Deadline: February 26, 2020, 23:59 GMT
- Change our classification of somersaults (discuss) Deadline: February 26, 2020, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Coin Bandit and Bandit (discuss) Deadline: February 26, 2020, 23:59 GMT
- Change how we classify ropes (discuss) Deadline: February 26, 2020, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Gold Bowser Statue and Bowser Statue (discuss) Deadline: February 26, 2020, 23:59 GMT
- Merge the Super Princess Peach Big Chain Chomp to Chomp Shark (discuss) Deadline: February 26, 2020, 23:59 GMT
- Merge some Mario Kart versions of Bowser Statue to Bowser Monument (discuss) Deadline: February 26, 2020, 23:59 GMT
- Merge the Super Mario Sunshine Pink Boo to Block Boo (discuss) Deadline: February 26, 2020, 23:59 GMT
- Prune White Shy Guy to remove non-Yoshi's Story information (discuss) Deadline: February 26, 2020, 23:59 GMT
- Prune Black Shy Guy to split Yoshi's Story information, merge with Anti Guy, and remove the rest (discuss) Deadline: February 26, 2020, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Chain-Link and Fence (discuss) Deadline: February 26, 2020, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Chompy to Chain Chomp (discuss) Deadline: February 26, 2020, 23:59 GMT
- Split Castle Key into separate articles (discuss) Deadline: February 28, 2020, 23:59 GMT
Unimplemented proposals
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Proposal
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User
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Date
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Create boss level articles for Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong Land series Notes: The DK: King of Swing boss levels, while not explicitly covered by this proposal, should receive the same treatment. All Donkey Kong Land boss levels have been created.
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Aokage (talk)
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January 3, 2015
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2
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Create a template for the Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door badge drop rates
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Lord Bowser (talk)
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August 17, 2016
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3
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Expand the Behemoth King article
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Owencrazyboy9 (talk)
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December 23, 2017
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4
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Decide how to cover recurring events in the Mario & Sonic series
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BBQ Turtle (talk)
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July 17, 2018
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5
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Create articles on Play Nintendo games
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Obsessive Mario Fan (talk)
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June 23, 2019
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6
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Reorganize Map
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LudwigVon (talk)
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July 17, 2019
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7
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Split Jump Block (Mario & Wario) from Note Block
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Alternis (talk)
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July 21, 2019
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8
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Reorganize and split Gallery:Toys and other Merchandise galleries
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Results May Vary (talk)
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July 30, 2019
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9
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Split the Ice Skate and Swim Ring variants of the Goomba
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FanOfYoshi (talk)
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August 17, 2019
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10
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Split Buckies from Noki
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FanOfYoshi (talk)
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August 28, 2019
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11
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Create articles on the River Survival routes in Super Mario Party
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Toadette the Achiever (talk)
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November 2, 2019
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12
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Include information on Construction Zone for the rest of the Mario vs. Donkey Kong series
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Bye Guy (talk)
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November 24, 2019
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13
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Split Fireball (Donkey Kong) from Fire
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LinkTheLefty (talk)
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February 4, 2020
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14
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Merge the raven-like Nitpicker with Kuro
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LinkTheLefty (talk)
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February 4, 2020
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15
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Split Big/Giant Shy Guy from Mega Guy
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LinkTheLefty (talk)
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February 11, 2020
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Writing guidelines
None at the moment.
New features
New Template:Gamma Image
An interesting oddity that I and few other users have noticed while dealing with images is a very interesting type of metadata called Gamma Brightening. In short, what gamma brightening does is change the way the colors of an image are displayed. This is generally very rare, but it is important as the differences between images is severely drastic. After some internal discussion, most notably with Steve, the unspoken policy course of action is to not optimize images with gamma brightening, and leave that metadata on the image if it is the way the source image provides the picture.
The purpose of the proposal is to make this unspoken policy a spoken policy. People should know when an image has a special property and should be treated differently.
The following template, {{Gamma-Brightening}}, would be placed on the documented images with gamma brightening:
<div class="notice-template" style="display:flex;text-align:center;background:#BF5FFF;margin:0.675em 2% 1.75em;padding:0 1em;border:2px solid black;color:black">
'''This image contains ''[[User:Trig Jegman#What's Gamma Brightening?|gamma brightening]]'', and should not be optimized.'''
</div><includeonly>[[Category:Gamma Image|{{PAGENAME}}]]</includeonly><noinclude>
Such images seen thus far is:
It would also be suggested, but not required, to create a MarioWiki page discussing gamma brightening over using a section on my user page.
Comparison image:
Proposer: Trig Jegman (talk)
Deadline: Feb 19, 2020, 23:59 GMT
Support (Create template)
- Trig Jegman (talk) Per proposal
- Bye Guy (talk) per proposal
- TheDarkStar (talk) - Per proposal.
- Results May Vary (talk) - It might be odd seeing this on many image pages, but otherwise it is a reasonable decision. We want to preserve the original nature of the image as much we can.
Although personally I prefer the Gamma brightness removed for the Hammer Bro pic but just in this case, and it's only my opinion.
- mister Wu (talk) I’m still wondering if removing metadata doesn’t create more problems than it solves (it’s often a few bytes of data where the IDAT chunk is orders of magnitude bigger), but since current optimization software removes them and since the gAMA chunk definitely must not be removed, it’s better to add this template.
- FanOfYoshi (talk) Per all.
Oppose (Do not create template)
I mentioned you could simply say this information in the aboutfile template. Because of that, I don't see a need for this template, as it would only really apply to a handfull of images. But I'll remain neutral, as I'm not directly opposed to it, either. 11:21, February 12, 2020 (EST)
Not sure what to think of this yet, but I think the purple should be a lighter color to make the text more readable. --DeepFriedCabbage 14:46, February 13, 2020 (EST)
- I can easily change the color to be more reader-friendly. I will hunt for a similar purple that's easier to read. Trig - 16:42, February 13, 2020 (EST)
- Thanks! --DeepFriedCabbage 20:07, February 13, 2020 (EST)
- is #cb7eff or #debffb more appropriate?
- I personally enjoy the original or lean towards the darker side of purple but it's up to the community. (I've never been great with color) Trig - 17:21, February 14, 2020 (EST)
It seems that "original" does not necessarily equal "accurate" in all cases. Take File:Luigi - New Super Mario Bros U.png for example. Note that the optimized version contains a darker green and the gamma ("original") version contains a lighter green. Then look at File:NSMBU FourCharacters.png from the same game, where the opposite is true. Therefore, it seems that there are some images where gamma correction produces an accurate image, and other images where gamma correction produces an inaccurate image. Given this, I think we can't say that gamma should always or never be removed, since it depends on the image. How do we determine when the original is accurate, and when the optimized version is accurate? A side note: it is possible to keep certain metadata, such as the gamma chunk or embedded ICC profiles, while still optimizing the image, such as by passing the --keepchunks=iCCP,gAMA,cHRM
option to zopflipng
or the -kiCCP,gAMA,cHRM
option to pngout
. See this page for further explanation. I tested it on File:NSMBDS Goomba Artwork.png. Note: preserving only the iCCP chunk has worked for every image I've tested so far, but theoretically there may be older images that rely on the gAMA or cHRM chunks. Since these legacy chunks are very small, it's probably worth preserving them also. Maybe we could include this information in the policy, so that we can optimize the images without removing gamma.--Super Mario Fan 67 (T•C•S) 00:01, February 16, 2020 (EST)
We could modify the template/proposed policy to consider this. Maybe something like:
This image contains gamma brightening, and should not be optimized without preserving iCCP metadata.
--Super Mario Fan 67 (T•C•S) 14:31, February 16, 2020 (EST)
Removals
Remove tense
The Template:Tense has been around for almost 10 years, and despite this, it is almost never used. Tense is so infrequently used that while discussing it with long time wiki editors, they didn't believe it was a thing. Tense serves virtually no purpose anymore, as changing word tense is generally very easy to do, especially with tools like Find/Find Next being commonplace. If a situation is truly dire, it doesn't make sense to not simply use {{Rewrite}} over Tense, since a majority of people don't either know it exists and cannot find the section in which it is documented, or people don't suspect a tense issue because they are so infrequent. Because of this, I propose that the tense template is deleted.
Proposer: Trig Jegman (talk)
Deadline: Feb 18, 2020, 23:59 GMT
Support (Delete the template)
- Trig Jegman (talk) per proposal.
- Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) Ye I had no idea it was a thing, but it's pretty much pointless. Per proposal.
- Alex95 (talk) - Yeah, that makes sense to me.
- TheDarkStar (talk) - It's only used on one page, and it doesn't even have a dedicated subcategory, so I'm for deleting this.
- 7feetunder (talk) We don't need sub-templates for every specific way an article can be badly written. Just use the "reason" parameter.
- Scrooge200 (talk) Per all.
- Mario jc (talk) Per proposal.
- Sdman213 (talk) Per all.
- Obsessive Mario Fan (talk) This template is redundant. Per all.
- Niiue (talk) Per all.
- Toadette the Achiever (talk) Practically useless. It's an issue that's extremely easy to fix.
- TheFlameChomp (talk) Per all.
- Yoshi the SSM (talk) Per all.
- Mister Wu (talk) If it’s redundant and almost unused, we can get rid of it.
- FanOfYoshi (talk) As another proposal by Super Radio (or is it Results May Vary), this is redundant.
- Supermariofan67 (talk) Per all.
- White Lightning (talk) If it is hardly used, it must be removed.
Oppose (Keep the template)
Actually, it's on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020, too. But I still don't see a use for it. Scrooge200 (talk) 00:31, February 12, 2020 (EST)
Changes
None at the moment.
Miscellaneous
None at the moment.