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| ::I saw this get brought up by the Wiki's twitter account. I barely knew much about all this at first but now I agree WildBrain is a completely invalid source. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 21:17, April 13, 2021 (EDT) | | ::I saw this get brought up by the Wiki's twitter account. I barely knew much about all this at first but now I agree WildBrain is a completely invalid source. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 21:17, April 13, 2021 (EDT) |
| | Nobody ever agrees with me online. You guys might as well just pass this as failed. Nobody ever even listens to me and nobody can tell me otherwise. [[User:Grandet Omate|Grandet Omate]] ([[User talk:Grandet Omate|talk]]) 23:30, April 13, 2021 (EDT) |
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Current time:
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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
- "Vote" periods last for one week.
- Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so (not, e.g., "I like this idea!").
- All proposals must be approved by a majority of voters, including proposals with more than two options.
- For past proposals, see the proposal archive and the talk page proposal archive.
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A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.
How to
Rules
- If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
- Only registered, autoconfirmed users can create, comment in, or vote on proposals and talk page proposals. Users may vote for more than one option on proposals with more than two choices.
- Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts, except for writing guidelines and talk page proposals, which run for two weeks (all times GMT).
- For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
- Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
- Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
- Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
- If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
- No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
- Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
- All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week. Proposals with more than two options must also be extended another week if any single option does not have a majority support: i.e. more than half of the total number of voters must appear in a single voting option, rather than one option simply having more votes than the other options.
- If a proposal with only two voting options has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes, otherwise the deadline will be extended for another week as if no majority was reached at all.
- Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
- All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
- If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
- Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation (six days for talk page proposals). However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
- Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
- Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
- No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
- Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.
Basic proposal and support/oppose format
This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.
===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]
'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created (14 for writing guidelines and talk page proposals), at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "May 9, 2024, 23:59 GMT"]
====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]
====Oppose====
====Comments====
Users will now be able to vote on your proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.
To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}}" at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can just say "Per my proposal".
Talk page proposals
All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.
- For a list of all settled talk page proposals, see MarioWiki:Proposals/TPP archive and Category:Settled talk page proposals.
Rules
- All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPPDiscuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{SettledTPP}}.
- All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How to" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
- Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one (all times GMT).
- For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
- The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.
- When a talk page proposal passes, it should be removed from this list and included in the list under the "Unimplemented proposals" section until the proposed changes have been enacted.
List of ongoing talk page proposals
- Potentially consider the Donkey Konga series, Barrel Blast, or Jungle Beat as related to DKC (discuss) Deadline: May 9th, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Replace Princess Peach: Showtime!#Plays with Sparkle Theater (discuss) Deadline: May 10, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Bar Spin to Wire Spin (discuss) Deadline: May 10, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Consider Beanies and Octoombas to be related to Goombas rather than direct variants of them (for consistency with Galoomba et al.) (discuss) Deadline: May 10, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Split "Baby Fat" from Baby Yoshi (discuss) Deadline: May 10, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- In Template:Species infobox, expand "Relatives" guidelines to include variant-type relationships with significant differences between species (discuss) Deadline: May 12, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Split Speed Mario Bros. from Ultimate NES Remix (discuss) Deadline: May 12, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Arrow Switch with gravity switch (discuss) Deadline: May 13, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Re-merge Pixels with List of references in film (discuss) Deadline: May 13, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Rename Moneybags to Moneybag (enemy) (discuss) Deadline: May 13, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Split "Team Dinosaur" from The Dinosaurs (discuss) Deadline: May 15, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Hat trampoline (Cascade Kingdom) to Trampoline (discuss) Deadline: May 15th, 2024, 23:59 GMT
Unimplemented proposals
Proposals
- ^Note: This has yet to be done with with several non–Super Mario fighters who still have their own page; namely, Banjo, Fox, Inkling, Isabelle, Kirby, Link, Mega Man, Pac-Man, R.O.B., Sonic, and Villager.
Talk page proposals
List of ongoing talk page proposals
- Delete Tileoid or convert into a disambiguation page (discuss) Deadline: April 14, 2021, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Birdo (species) with Birdo (discuss) Deadline: April 23, 2021, 23:59 GMT
- Remove information on Game & Watch Collection 2 (discuss) Deadline: April 23, 2021, 23:59 GMT
Unimplemented proposals
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Decide how to cover recurring events in the Mario & Sonic series
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BBQ Turtle (talk)
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July 17, 2018
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Split Jump Block (Mario & Wario) from Note Block
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Alternis (talk)
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July 21, 2019
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Reorganize and split Gallery:Toys and other Merchandise galleries
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Results May Vary (talk)
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July 30, 2019
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Split all multi-items in the Mario Kart series
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Archivist Toadette (talk)
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October 12, 2019
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Include information on Construction Zone for the rest of the Mario vs. Donkey Kong series
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Koopa con Carne (talk)
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November 24, 2019
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Split backwards somersault info and merge it to Backflip
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Doc von Schmeltwick (talk)
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February 26, 2020
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Split the attacks from Paper Mario: Sticker Star and Paper Mario: Color Splash
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Scrooge200 (talk)
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July 4, 2020
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Split the enemy variants from Wario World
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Koopa con Carne (talk)
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July 11, 2020
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Split the item lists from Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
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Doc von Schmeltwick (talk)
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July 12, 2020
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Clean up Category:Undead and Category:Deceased
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Pokemon (talk)
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August 6, 2020
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Reorganize images in levelboxes pertaining to games with remakes, remasters, etc.
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DarkNight (talk)
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September 30, 2020
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Create articles for minor locations in Super Mario Sunshine
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The Mansion (talk)
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October 30, 2020
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Create an article for Cheese the Chao
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BBQ Turtle (talk)
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November 25, 2020
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Create an article for Froggy
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BBQ Turtle (talk)
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November 25, 2020
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Split the tour appearances of Mario Kart Tour courses
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Koopa con Carne (talk)
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March 5, 2021
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Use indicators for pre-release images
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Scrooge200 (talk)
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March 27, 2021
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Use shorthand names for the Donkey Kong Country series animal friends
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Keyblade Master (talk)
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April 5, 2021
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Rename "places" categories to "locations" categories
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The Mansion (talk)
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April 12, 2021
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Writing guidelines
"Closed caption of the Mario cartoons"
WildBrain, the owners of DiC and all their assets, made captions for the all of the Mario cartoons. I argue that they should be accepted since they have unique spellings not found anywhere else:
Everyone else in the discussion, however, disagrees and wanted me to make this proposal. This also applies to all of the captions for the other two cartoons, which is the reason I put it here. Reminder that WildBrain has access to all of DiC's assets.
Proposer: Grandet Omate (talk)
Deadline: Tuesday, April 20th, 23:59 GMT
Agree
- Grandet Omate (talk) Per my reasoning above.
Deny
- Keyblade Master (talk) Per everything that was said here and here.
- Waluigi Time (talk) Per Keyblade Master. I've said this regarding WildBrain before and I'll say it again, these aren't the people who made the cartoons. This is the company that bought the company that bought the company that made the cartoons. The subpar job they've done with other material (i.e. the YouTube videos) doesn't give me any confidence that they're using the original material for this information, if they even still have access to that anymore.
- Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) Per what Alex, Glowsquid, and I have said on the aforementioned pages (as well as what I initially brought up here). The Rat-A-Gator concept art completely breaks your argument anyway, and "radigator" is obviously wrong.
- PanchamBro (talk) To cite the great Glowsquid, "[WildBrain] has been blatantly amateurish, including straight up copy-and-pasting our episode summaries for their video description". To summarize, WildBrain has been notorious for copypasting information from this wiki, and their unprofessional corporate structure has led to unnecessary redirects (e.g. Ahehehauhe) or unreliable names. This also applies to companies that merely host these cartoons on their services and deliver somewhat unreliable information (e.g. Apple TV). These companies do not have involvement with the original cartoons additionally, so in any given case, I say to stick with DiC Entertainment, and the staff that created these TV shows for proper sources.
- TheDarkStar (talk) - Per all. I'd also like to ask if WildBrain even adds the captions to their shows on streaming services themselves or if it's people from Apple TV and the like doing it
- Duckfan77 (talk) Per all.
- TheFlameChomp (talk) Per all. Considering how blatantly they are plagiarizing from the wiki, as well as how unprofessional some of the names they have provided are, I would recommend against using WildBrain as a source on the wiki at all.
- Alex95 (talk) - (the heck is Aheheauhe?) Per me and everyone else. I'd rather we deny WildBrain entirely.
- Scrooge200 (talk) This has been bothering me. I don't see WildBrain as "official," particularly with nonsense like uploading auto-generated video thumbnails.
- 7feetunder (talk) Per all.
- RHG1951 (talk) General unprofessionalism from WildBrain's part regarding the presentation of the cartoons.
- The Mansion (talk) Pretty much all of these opposing arguments are valid so far. Yea, I've noticed the copy-paste material as well.
- Mario jc (talk) Per Glowsquid's comment on Alex's talk and the copy/paste issue. This should have at least been discussed first before going ahead with the mass moves.
"WildBrain [...] made captions for the all of the Mario cartoons."
Do you have evidence of such? As far as I know, closed captioning is done either by the network itself, or by third-party contractors hired for that purpose (as is the case of Netflix) --Glowsquid (talk) 19:29, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
@Alex95: "Ahehehauhe" refers to this 14-second clip from Flatbush Koopa. It's clearly not intended to be an alternate title for the episode and I really question whether or not we need the redirect. I guess someone might see the video, not know the episode, and try to find it here by searching that? --
Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 19:49, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
19:54, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
- Seems like a silly redirect to me.
Nightwicked Bowser 
20:17, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
WildBrain uploaded "Rock TV" yesterday. The end of the description contains the text "Main article: The Legend of Zelda (TV series)," which confirms they're stealing stuff from wikis. It also describes the Super Show!, despite this being an episode of Super Mario World. And we can't forget Ahehehauhe and Evil Dinorsaur. Scrooge200 (talk) 
20:15, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
- Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww how blatant of them XD 20:56, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
- I saw this get brought up by the Wiki's twitter account. I barely knew much about all this at first but now I agree WildBrain is a completely invalid source. Nightwicked Bowser 21:17, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
Nobody ever agrees with me online. You guys might as well just pass this as failed. Nobody ever even listens to me and nobody can tell me otherwise. Grandet Omate (talk) 23:30, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
New features
None at the moment.
Removals
None at the moment.
Changes
None at the moment.
Miscellaneous
None at the moment.
Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 19:49, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
20:15, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
