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#{{User|Super Famicom 64}} - Per proposal.
#{{User|Super Famicom 64}} - Per proposal.
#{{User|YoshiKong}} I use the media template extensively (mostly on [[Wario Land 4/Media]]), and I agree that .OGV and .OGA files should be compatible with the Media Template. It doesn't make sense how it lets us upload those file extensions, but it is not compatible with the Media Template many of us use.
#{{User|YoshiKong}} I use the media template extensively (mostly on [[Wario Land 4/Media]]), and I agree that .OGV and .OGA files should be compatible with the Media Template. It doesn't make sense how it lets us upload those file extensions, but it is not compatible with the Media Template many of us use.
#{{User|Bowser's luma}} I personally don't upload media but if someone who does thinks it would be effective, I trust them. Per all.


====Oppose====
====Oppose====

Revision as of 16:31, February 22, 2012

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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removals of previously added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
  • Any user can support or oppose but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!"
  • "Vote" periods last for one week.
  • All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.

This page observes the No-Signature Policy.

How To

Rules

  1. If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and Writing Guideline proposals must include a link to the draft page.
  2. Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts, except for Writing Guidelines and Talk Page Proposals, which run for two weeks. (All times GMT.)
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
  3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it. Agreeing with or seconding a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted.
  4. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the Comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
  5. If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
  6. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
  7. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
  8. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
  9. If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
  10. Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
  11. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
  12. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that cancelled proposals must also be archived.
  13. If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
  14. There should not be proposals about creating articles on an underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
  15. Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
  16. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

Basic Proposal and Support/Oppose Format

This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined.


===[insert a title for your Proposal here]===
[describe what issue this Proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the Wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created, at 23:59 GMT.]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments====


Users will now be able to vote on your Proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own Proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}} at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's Proposal. If you are voting on your own Proposal, you can just say "Per my Proposal".

Talk Page Proposals

All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the Wiki should still be held on this page.

For a list of all settled Talk Page Proposals, see here.

Rules

  1. All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom). All pages affected must be mentioned in the brief description, with the talk page housing the discussion linked to directly via "(Template:Fakelink)". If the proposal involved a page that is not yet made, use {{fakelink}} to communicate its title. The Deadline must also be included in the entry. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the heading.
  2. All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How To" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
  3. Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one. (All times GMT.)
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
  4. Talk page proposals may be closed by the proposer at any time if both the support and the oppose sides each have fewer than five votes.
  5. The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.

List of Talk Page Proposals

Writing Guidelines

None at the moment.

New Features

Inserting e-shop review results

I think it would be a good idea to put the ratings for games that can be viewed on the eshop to be included in our articles because they show what people think of the games. These results would be put in the article's reception section. The number of people who reviewed the game would not be in the article as they would change reguarly.

Proposer: Commander Code-8 (talk)
Deadline February 25, 2012, 23:59 GMT

Add the review results

  1. Commander Code-8 (talk) I think this is a good idea. The results would not be hard to add as i have to edit from a 3DS anyway.

Don't add review results

  1. Bop1996 (talk) "Critical Reception" sections are used to show the reception a game received from reputable reviewers and overall reception. Including the reviews that just any user with a 3DS could add (many of which will be one-liners that tell almost nothing about the game) adds nothing useful to the game articles.
  2. Mario4Ever (talk) Per Bop1996.
  3. Super Famicom 64 (talk) No way. Per Bop1996.
  4. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk) Bop pretty much summed up what I was going to say
  5. YoshiKong (talk) The "Critical Reception" for a 3DS game could change often, probably daily. Users would have to work hard to keep it up to date and it probably would clog up the page's history. Per Boppy!
  6. Bowser's luma (talk) Per Bop1996.

Comments

Bop1996 Reviews on the e shop contain a rating out of five stars, whether the game appeals to games or average people more and if the game should be played intesnly or casually. Also, 3DS users can only review a game if they've played it for a minimum of an hour. That's a bit more than a one-liner that tells you nothing. Commander Code-8 (talk)

Wouldn't this proposal be better as a pipe project? YoshiKong (talk)

@Commander Code-8: Yes, but that's still a large percentage of fanboy reviews that tell you nothing that adds to our coverage of the game.
@YoshiKong: This proposal is to make them legal, so it is fine as a proposal. Bop1996 (talk)
They can't really be called reviews, anyway. They consist of you tapping the icon that represents your gender, entering your age, giving the game a rating from one to five stars, tapping the word Gamers/Everyone (describes to whom the game appeals more), and then tapping the word Intense/Casual (describes which play style best describes it). Mario4Ever (talk)


@Imasocool: That reviews are too many. I think i would count them for a while. (Thus counting makes like the reviews are over one hundred. CoolMario55 (talk)

Template:Media for .OGV and .OGA files

We all know that the Template:Media page is used for audio and video files. But a bad thing about it is: restricted to .OGG files.
I, and some others, upload .OGV and .OGA files (if you don't know .OGV files are videos while .OGA have the same purpose as .OGG files) but can't use this template with them. So we are restricted to use .OGG files or embed the .OGV and .OGA files with {{File:<insert name here>}}. I think there should be a similiar template only compatible with .OGV and .OGA files, or a template per each file extension.

Proposer: Super Famicom 64 (talk)
Deadline February 26, 2012, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Super Famicom 64 (talk) - Per proposal.
  2. YoshiKong (talk) I use the media template extensively (mostly on Wario Land 4/Media), and I agree that .OGV and .OGA files should be compatible with the Media Template. It doesn't make sense how it lets us upload those file extensions, but it is not compatible with the Media Template many of us use.
  3. Bowser's luma (talk) I personally don't upload media but if someone who does thinks it would be effective, I trust them. Per all.

Oppose

Comments

@YoshiKong I did not mean to modify the template. I just said to make a copy for both .OGV and .OGA files. Though most guys are uploading only .OGG files, that does not mean everybody does it. And some others use said file extensions. But they can't get to use the template. Super Famicom 64 (talk)

Ah forgot it, this wasn't made because I had problems with it.
@Super Famicom 64 You've convinced me. I've changed my mind, moved my vote to support. I hope you win :) YoshiKong (talk)

Removals

None at the moment.

Changes

None at the moment.

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.