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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
- "Vote" periods last for one week.
- Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so (not, e.g., "I like this idea!").
- All proposals must be approved by a majority of voters, including proposals with more than two options.
- For past proposals, see the proposal archive and the talk page proposal archive.
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A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.
How to
Rules
- If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
- Only registered, autoconfirmed users can create, comment in, or vote on proposals and talk page proposals. Users may vote for more than one option, but they may not vote for every option available.
- Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts, except for writing guidelines and talk page proposals, which run for two weeks (all times GMT).
- For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
- Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
- Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
- Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
- If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
- No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
- Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
- All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week. Proposals with more than two options must also be extended another week if any single option does not have a majority support: i.e. more than half of the total number of voters must appear in a single voting option, rather than one option simply having more votes than the other options.
- If a proposal with only two voting options has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail with a margin of at least three votes, otherwise the deadline will be extended for another week as if no majority was reached at all.
- Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
- All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
- If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
- Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation (six days for talk page proposals). However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
- Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
- Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
- No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
- Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.
Basic proposal and support/oppose format
This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.
===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]
'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created (14 for writing guidelines and talk page proposals), at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "May 30, 2024, 23:59 GMT"]
====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]
====Oppose====
====Comments====
Users will now be able to vote on your proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.
To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}}" at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can just say "Per my proposal".
Talk page proposals
All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.
- For a list of all settled talk page proposals, see MarioWiki:Proposals/TPP archive and Category:Settled talk page proposals.
Rules
- All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPPDiscuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{SettledTPP}}.
- All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How to" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
- Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one (all times GMT).
- For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
- The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.
- When a talk page proposal passes, it should be removed from this list and included in the list under the "Unimplemented proposals" section until the proposed changes have been enacted.
List of ongoing talk page proposals
- Create a Rewrite-remove template (discuss) Deadline: May 30, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Decide whether to redesign the Main Page (discuss) Deadline: June 1, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Include Rainbow Coaster & Rainbow Downhill back in the Rainbow Road article (discuss) Deadline:
May 28, 2024, 23:59 GMT Extended to June 4, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Consider Spike Top derived from both Buzzy Beetles and Spinies (discuss) Deadline: June 4, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Iron Cleft with The Iron Adonis Twins (discuss) Deadline: June 6, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Meat (object) with Meat (discuss) Deadline: June 6, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Re-merge Frog (Yoshi's Story) with Frog (discuss) Deadline: June 7, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Move the chef-based recipe lists (such as List of Tayce T. recipes) to game-based ones (discuss) Deadline: June 9, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge the corresponding chef-named recipes (discuss) Deadline: June 9, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Silver Credit and Gold Credit to Silver Card and Golden Card, respectively (discuss) Deadline: June 9, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Move Moo Moo back to cow (discuss) Deadline: June 10, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Split Samus from List of fighters debuting in Super Smash Bros. (discuss) Deadline: June 11, 2024, 23:59 GMT
Unimplemented proposals
Proposals
Talk page proposals
Writing guidelines
None at the moment.
New features
None at the moment.
Removals
None at the moment.
Changes
On ancient unsourced statements
This month's Shroom of Spotlight contains yet another unsourced statement that cannot be proven true or false. Such statements are very common on this wiki thanks to Nintendo's horrible habbit of removing everything that stops making money. Ancient unsourced statements sit in a permanent limbo: we cannot remove them and yet we also don't want them on the page. The next proposition will NOT apply for names in other languages or dead links. It will also not apply for relatively recent unsourced statements, they'll also be dealt with just as usual.
If despite all the efforts no source was found. If we know it is impossible or extremely improbable a source to a statement will ever be found, then any editor can just copy the unsourced statement, add a new message to the talk page with a template {{no source|Quote of the deleted statement in full|July 8, 2023}}, and then delete that ancient unsourced statement for which we cannot find a source. This way if a source does surface, we can not only easily reinstate it, but we can also easily find these removed statements (a template adds a category to the talk page).
Example of a talk page message:
{{no source|Nintendo said Luigi has a prosthetic leg.|July 8, 2023}}
Couldn't find any evidence Nintendo has ever said this. --Luigi Factchecker 13:23, July 8, 2023 (EDT)
Proposer: Axis (talk)
Deadline: July 15, 2023, 23:59 GMT
Support
- Axis (talk) Per proposal.
- Somethingone (talk) This sounds like a terrific idea!
- Hewer (talk) Per proposal, the template idea is a great way to have the best of both worlds by getting rid of likely false information on articles while also still keeping it easy to access in case anything does come up.
- Koopa con Carne (talk) Per all.
- RandomizedKirbyTree47 (talk) As Hewer says this is the best of both removing it and keeping it in case a source is found later.
- Camwoodstock (talk) Having some proper protocol and place to put these weird edge cases definitely feels preferable to either nixing them entirely or potentially shoving them somewhere they don't belong, and honestly, we're a little shocked this wasn't already a thing considering how vast the Mario series is and how many of these weird little improperly-cited tidbits inevitably exist. Better late than never!
- LadySophie17 (talk) I would prefer if the text was always placed below the template rather than inside it, but overall I agree.
- MegaBowser64 (talk) There's tons of random blurb and stuff Nintendo has long gotten rid of, with no way to access it again. See the argument about Wario's Warehouse, where a whole website was doubted completely to exist. It's tough, because much (if not most) unsourced statements about old Nintendo stuff are actually true, but on a website that relies completely on stuff that still exists, I guess we gotta do what we gotta do.
- Tails777 (talk) Per MegaBowser64. Wario's Warehouse got lucky with saving/proving its existence. Not every bit of info will get that lucky so it's good to have a way to remove it until proven, but still have it easily accessible in case proof does pop up.
Oppose
I do approve of the idea, I'm just not sure I understand the execution and how exactly the information will be displayed on the talk page using the template idea. If I understand how templates work, would the removed text be displayed *within* the template box? And if so, wouldn't it be better to simply add a generic {{no source|date}} template and then have the text be displayed below it (and above the comment from the editor)? Particularly because I imagine we would need to keep the text unchanged when moving to the talk page and it could be rather lengthy. — Lady Sophie (T|C) 20:14, July 8, 2023 (EDT)
- If the text is too large, they don't have to add it as a part of a template, they can also just paste it below it. Spectrogram (talk) 05:05, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
Question: what would we do with pages about ancient, unsourced subjects? A few months ago, Wario's Warehouse had nearly fallen victim to deletion (or moved to BJAODN) because the sources for its existence (the articles) were deleted by Nintendo of Europe, only saved because someone else did some deep digging and found another source that proved its existence. This wasn't just a mere unsourced statement on an article, it was an entire unsourced article that was chock-full of unsourced statements. If we encounter a page based on an unsourced subject next time, what do we do then? Delete the entire thing and archive it in its entirety on the talk page? Not only could that possibly be rather lengthy as LadySophie pointed out about archiving the statements (possibly even lengthier since it's an entire article and not a mere statement), but the talk page could possibly be difficult to find, or perhaps completely forgotten about, with its main article deleted and unlinked from all pages. rend (talk) (edits) 05:05, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
- Such cases are way out of the scope of this proposal, and honestly it's better to deal with articles like Wario's Warehouse on a case by case basis (not without a proposal, of course). Spectrogram (talk) 05:09, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
Miscellaneous
None at the moment.