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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
- "Vote" periods last for one week.
- Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so (not, e.g., "I like this idea!").
- All proposals must be approved by a majority of voters, including proposals with more than two options.
- For past proposals, see the proposal archive and the talk page proposal archive.
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A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.
How to
Rules
- If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
- Only registered, autoconfirmed users can create, comment in, or vote on proposals and talk page proposals. Users may vote for more than one option, but they may not vote for every option available.
- Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts, except for writing guidelines and talk page proposals, which run for two weeks (all times GMT).
- For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
- Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
- Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
- Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
- If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
- No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
- Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
- All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week. Proposals with more than two options must also be extended another week if any single option does not have a majority support: i.e. more than half of the total number of voters must appear in a single voting option, rather than one option simply having more votes than the other options.
- If a proposal with only two voting options has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail with a margin of at least three votes, otherwise the deadline will be extended for another week as if no majority was reached at all.
- Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
- All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
- If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
- Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation (six days for talk page proposals). However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
- Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
- Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
- No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
- Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.
Basic proposal and support/oppose format
This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.
===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]
'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created (14 for writing guidelines and talk page proposals), at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "May 26, 2024, 23:59 GMT"]
====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]
====Oppose====
====Comments====
Users will now be able to vote on your proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.
To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}}" at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can just say "Per my proposal".
Talk page proposals
All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.
- For a list of all settled talk page proposals, see MarioWiki:Proposals/TPP archive and Category:Settled talk page proposals.
Rules
- All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPPDiscuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{SettledTPP}}.
- All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How to" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
- Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one (all times GMT).
- For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
- The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.
- When a talk page proposal passes, it should be removed from this list and included in the list under the "Unimplemented proposals" section until the proposed changes have been enacted.
List of ongoing talk page proposals
- Delete Memory Card (discuss) Deadline: May 23, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- In Template:Species infobox, expand "Relatives" guidelines to include variant-type relationships with significant differences between species (discuss) Deadline:
May 12, 2024, 23:59 GMT Extended to May 19, 2024, 23:59 GMT Extended to May 26, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Add a Composers Subsection to Template:Themes (discuss) Deadline: May 28, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Include Rainbow Coaster & Rainbow Downhill back in the Rainbow Road article (discuss) Deadline: May 28, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Split the contents of the blimp page (discuss) Deadline: May 28, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Create a Rewrite-remove template (discuss) Deadline: May 30, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Decide whether to redesign the Main Page (discuss) Deadline: June 1, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Consider Spike Top derived from both Buzzy Beetles and Spinies (discuss) Deadline: June 4, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Iron Cleft with The Iron Adonis Twins (discuss) Deadline: June 6, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Meat (object) with Meat (discuss) Deadline: June 6, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Re-merge Frog (Yoshi's Story) with Frog (discuss) Deadline: June 7, 2024, 23:59 GMT
Unimplemented proposals
Proposals
- ^Note: This has yet to be done with with several non–Super Mario fighters who still have their own page; namely, Banjo, Fox, Inkling, Isabelle, Kirby, Link, Mega Man, Pac-Man, R.O.B., Sonic, and Villager.
Talk page proposals
List of Talk Page Proposals
Writing Guidelines
None at the moment.
New features
Create articles for the hosts of Mario Party 4
Looking back at a proposal I made like two years ago or so, I suggested deleting the articles for Mario Party Advanced characters. I withdrew said proposal after getting a clear view on why we have said articles. Now, two years later, I've been playing a lot of Mario Party 4 recently and came to realize that 4 out of 6 hosts seem to fit in with the explanation Time Turner (talk) gave to explain why we have the Mario Party advanced character articles. Long story short, I believe we should give articles for the Goomba, Boo, Shy Guy and Koopa Troopa (And potentially the Thwomp and Whomp in the extra room) as they play an important NPC role in their game as both hosts of the party mode and certain other modes (Mini-Game mode, present room etc) and they have distinct personalities. Toad and Koopa Kid don't apply here as we know that its the Toad character and Koopa Kid's various roles are all lumped together in the same article (which, now that I think about it, is arguable, but not the point in this case).
Proposer: Tails777 (talk)
Deadline: February 15, 2016, 23:59 GMT
Support
- Tails777 (talk)
- Time Turner (talk) As long as the creation is reserved for Goomba, Boo, Shy Guy, and Koopa Troopa, I'm fine with it.
Oppose
- LudwigVon (talk) I thought I would support the proposal, believing that with the different clothes every hosts wear, they would be unique characters. Then, seeing that in the Mario Party 4's credit that the characters appear normally and that the Toads, the Goombas, Shy Guys, the Koopas and Boos all play different roles in the Mario Party series, I opposed. What about Mario Party 7's unique characters style? Chinese or Japan Koopa, Egypt Goomba, Top-hat Shy Guy. Koopa Bank's manager. Koopa Troopa that appear in Mario Party DS's story Mode (not the old one). Should we create a page for each of them? What about Mario Party DS, 9 and 10's species boss (Dry Bones, Blooper, Wiggler...)?
For clarification, the primary reason for the Mario Party Advance characters having articles is that they tick off the necessary requirements. They have names (they're not very original names, but they're 100% names), they have unique characteristics that separate themselves from the rest of their species (unique personalities, unique roles in quests, etc.), and there's a precedence for giving the MPA characters articles set by Hulu, Goombob, Akiki, and others, who occupy the same space as the more generically named characters and yet were given articles while the large majority of the others weren't (until I started mass-producing them). It's the combination of all of those elements that makes them warrant articles. I'm not intimately familiar with Mario Party 4, but I'll provide this: the characters are individually referred to as "Goomba", "Koopa Troopa", and so on according to the manual (with genders, too!), and they have unique appearances, but there's not exactly a precedence for this. To play devil's advocate, are these characters unique enough to warrant individual articles? Hello, I'm Time Turner.
- Well it may not be the strongest reasoning, but they play the important role as hosts for the boards and other modes, thus giving out stars to players. The aforementioned unique personalities can be a reasoning (though the idea of a Boo interested in scaring or a shy Shy Guy may be simply tying into their species as a whole), the Goomba was shown to be a bit greedy and the Koopa Troopa was shown to be laid back, which is something notable about them from their species as a whole. And even if the Shy Guy was still shy, he also showed an interest in exploration. I just feel that the fact they had unique personalities and looks and played an important host role in the game is enough to say they can be split off.
Tails777 Talk to me!
- Well, just a bit of information, but in the credits sequence, these hosts are shown as "normal" creatures. Not sure how useful it is, but it kind of muddles with their identity, IMO.
It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 15:48, 9 February 2016 (EST)
- Literally, the hosts are "normal" members of their species, there's no denying that, but their unique roles in the game is what Tails is pushing for. "No one cared who I was until I put on the mask," or capes, cloaks, and vests in this case. Hello, I'm Time Turner.
- Well, I get probably splitting off the hosts in Mario Party 4, with their clothes being their most defining characteristic, but the rest (like Whomp, Ztar, Thwomp, etc.) I don't agree. Might as well split other "generic" hosts such as the Koopa Troopa from Koopa Bank and the Goomba in the battle minigames in Mario Party 2 and the "hootenanny" Wiggler in Western Land (which was merged) and the Bob-omb that appears when someone lands on a Battle Space. I don't know, just because it has dialogue, some characteristic role, and some individuality doesn't mean we should create an article on it. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 16:17, 9 February 2016 (EST)
- Also, these same characters are playable in Beach Volley Folley without their party clothes, so there's that. About Toad... yeah... I'm really not sure if we should delve into identity discussions on whenever he is THE Toad or not... It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 16:20, 9 February 2016 (EST)
- Sorry again, but also, these characters' dialogues, if notable, might be a species quirk. Indiana Shy Guy, for instance, makes frequent "um"s and expresses overall uncertainty, but I recall that the shop and lottery Shy Guys have the sameish dialogue... It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 16:23, 9 February 2016 (EST)
@LudwigVon: The Koopa from Mario Party DS does have his own article. As for the characters in Mario Party 7, they aren't shown to be nearly as separate from the species. My point doesn't really direct at that fact that they wear unique clothing, it's a mix of notable personalities and important role in the game. Item shop owners don't really show much that separates them from their species (example being the Koopa Troopa from Mario Party 2)
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@BazookaMario In all honesty, the Thwomp, Whomp and Ztar don't fully count in my opinion as there isn't much that separates them from their normal species. I mentioned them for the sake of staying consistent (as if we were to split the hosts, they'd probably be the center of a few questions). And if the characters in the Beach Volley Folley ARE the hosts without their clothes, I feel that's all the more reason to split them. This game is clearly treating them as independent characters of their species if they are getting these kinds of perks. Tails777 Talk to me!
- I suppose so, but part of me still feels like they're just generic species in different clothes. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 17:14, 9 February 2016 (EST)
- The personalities of all of this species also varied on the Mario Party series. Look at Shy Guy who appear to be on Bowser's side in Mario Party 9 (before to be unlocked). Yes, this is perhaps not the same Shy Guy, but created a page because of a personality is a little complicated, because, as I said, most of these species have different personalities depending on the game and especially in the Mario Party series.--
(TALK) 18:05, 9 February 2016 (EST)
- There is a subtle difference between the NPCs and the playable characters. I went about splitting the playable characters from their species a while ago, but it failed as there wasn't any proof that the playable characters were the same in their various appearances. This is talking about a group of NPCs who played specifically important roles in their game and in a case where the game itself seems to treat them more as independent characters over generic members of their species. Tails777 Talk to me!
- Not sure if the game treat them more as independant characters, seeing the game's credit where they appear as generic species before they wear different clothes. This is where I see them failed to be distinct characters. I wouldn't say no to a page if it would be their clothing from the beginning, but taking precedence on the personalities is complicated, as all this species (Boos, Goombas, Koopas, Boos, Shy Guys) all have various personalities (yes, I repeat) from game to game (especially in the Mario Party series and all of Mario RPG). It's a generic Boo, a generic Shy Guy, a generic Goomba, a generic Toad and a generic Koopa that appear at this moment and start a party. What they seems less important than the different styles of Koopas, Goombas and Shy Guys that appears in Mario Party 7. If we create a page for this, we should create a page for the playable characters, because most of the time, when a species appear as a playable characters, no others is seen as NPC (I didn't remember seeing NPC Koopa when he was playable in Mario Party 9 and the same thing applied for Shy Guy in 9, Dry Bones in 7 and 8 and some others characters). We should also split Glasses Koopa in Paper Mario games, because they are on Bowser's side and "hate" Mario and the good NPC Koopas in Paper Mario games.--(TALK) 00:33, 10 February 2016 (EST)
- I guess this is a matter that's easier to discuss than to fully decide. You are making many good points, but tying all our points together makes an outcome difficult. You are correct in ways regarding the various character personalities showcased throughout the Mario series, but the way I see it, they are all coming from very minor NPC characters.
- As for the point regarding playable representatives of these species, that's another hard deal to work around. I know one reason the playable species characters don't have articles is because we have no solid proof that it is the same recurring character each time, but another reason I think is because it's easier to just put it all in one page. While I'd personally agree with making an article that simply goes over the playable appearances of a single species character (example like a Koopa Troopa (Playable Character)), I think that'd easily be disagreeable, as it borders on speculation and it's flat out unnecessary. These are all just my opinions though.
- The species characters in MP4, as I see it, are a group of characters the game is viewing as notable members of said species through host status and even playable status. The whole deal of them just being generic characters as seen in the credits is another thing I'm having troubles explaining. To me, it seems more like how they became the characters the game is portraying more than just a bunch of characters playing dress up. I will likely stand by my opinion on this matter, but I won't deny you have a lot of valid points. Tails777 Talk to me!
Removals
None at the moment.
Changes
None at the moment.
Miscellaneous
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