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This is not overturning the decision made about a month ago to make a rule to make the limit 60 days. The original intent of that proposal was to change the limit from 6 months to 60 days. This is only changing the limit, and not making it 6 months again. - Previously unsigned comment signed by {{user|Super Mario Bros.}} | This is not overturning the decision made about a month ago to make a rule to make the limit 60 days. The original intent of that proposal was to change the limit from 6 months to 60 days. This is only changing the limit, and not making it 6 months again. - Previously unsigned comment signed by {{user|Super Mario Bros.}} | ||
I'm not try to be smart or anything,but It haven't been 60 days since the "60 day proposal".Rules are Rules {{User|Dark Lakitu 789}} | <s>I'm not try to be smart or anything,but It haven't been 60 days since the "60 day proposal".Rules are Rules {{User|Dark Lakitu 789}}</s> | ||
:Super Mario Bros. is actually correct. This proposal would not overturn the previous proposal, and thus it should be allowed. The previous (unstated) rule was actually any proposal could immediately be overturned at any time. The current rule is to wait sixty days to overturn or reverse a decision. This proposal would clearly not reverse the decision of the original proposal back to zero waiting time, so it is within the rules. -- {{User|Son of Suns}} | :Super Mario Bros. is actually correct. This proposal would not overturn the previous proposal, and thus it should be allowed. The previous (unstated) rule was actually any proposal could immediately be overturned at any time. The current rule is to wait sixty days to overturn or reverse a decision. This proposal would clearly not reverse the decision of the original proposal back to zero waiting time, so it is within the rules. -- {{User|Son of Suns}} |
Revision as of 19:13, April 8, 2009
A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{user|User name}}. Signing with the signature code ~~~(~) is not allowed due to technical issues. How To
The times are in EDT (UTC -4:00), and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours. New FeaturesAward Templates for UsersListen, many of you "veteran" users who saw Ghost Jam's " virtual pie" joke proposal got Stooben Rooben (talk) and I thinking.What if you gave a user an award userbox or something for their page for a really good edit or rewrite?(For example).That's why I propose Sysops (Or a PipeProject team) could give out "templates" for good users!We could make a page especially for them so Sysops can cut and paste them onto the good user's talk page?Good idea? Proposer: Ninja Yoshi (talk) Let there be Awards!No Award Templates/UserboxesCommentsMaybe having this in the MW Awards Tucayo (talk) Change Calendar to Featured Images on Main PageOf all the sections on the main page, I find the Calendar to be the least useful, so I am proposing to replace it with a Featured Image section. The Featured Image would highlight high quality, interesting, witty, provocative, rare, and important images that can be found in articles on the Mario Wiki. The Featured Image would be selected by a vote just like the Featured Poll. The image would be updated every week and would be selected by the wiki's users. On a new Featured Image Selection page, users could nominate an image (probably just linking to the page instead of putting the image on the selection page), give some reasons for the nomination if they want to (i.e., let us know what makes this image so special) and users can then Support or Oppose. The Featured Image of the week will be decided by subtracting the number of opposes from the number of supports - the image with the most "points" will be featured. Any image with negative points (that is a majority of opposes) after a week will be removed from the selection process. The only condition for images that can be nominated is that they must be in an actual mainspace article in the wiki. No personal images or others; only images that can actually be found in the wiki's articles will be allowed. Proposer: Son of Suns (talk) Change to Featured Images
Keep Calendar
CommentsWhy don't do BOTH? there's enough space when you see it on my webbrowser. Arend (talk)
While we're on the subject of the main page, should we consider removing the QOTD? It's not even a QOTD, just a random quote generated each time. We could also do something like change the coding and add an actual quote, rather than DPL. Super-Yoshi (talk)
I do the Calendar of Events for the Shroom, which was released last month. I could edit it, because I'd love to bring some peace to editing the Main Page!! Check out my Proposal below!! Corka Cola (talk)
Corka Cola: Perhaps for this month's issue you can add some info from the Main Page's calendar Tucayo (talk) RemovalsLet Members Go Through Main Page To Eliminate Unwanted SectionsThe proposal above by Son of Suns (talk) got me thinking, how many sections are unwanted or useless to the Main Page? All Members of any rank will be worth 1 Point for every positive vote, -1 for negative vote. I'll change it if complained. If approved, I'll see if we can get individual pages for voting for each section that will last 1 week. Most likely, it'll go in order based on their location on the Main Page. Anytime during the week after approval, anyone may voice new Section Ideas on this Proposals page. Let's begin voting and see change!! Proposer: Corka Cola (talk) Let Voting Take Place
Leave As Is
CommentsI am seeing disorganizatiopn in editing the Main Page, disgust in Members based on what it contains. Let's just see what the people want.Corka Cola (talk)
Splits & MergesNone at the moment. ChangesChange 60-Day Rule to One MonthI think that the 60-day minumum for waiting to overturn proposals is a bit of a long to to wait. What if a proposal is passed and it lowers the quality of the wiki extremely? Or what if a majority of people who voted in favor of the original proposal want to overturn it? I believe that one month is neither too short nor too long. Proposer: Super Mario Bros. (talk) Change to One Month
Keep at 60 Days
CommentsThis is not overturning the decision made about a month ago to make a rule to make the limit 60 days. The original intent of that proposal was to change the limit from 6 months to 60 days. This is only changing the limit, and not making it 6 months again. - Previously unsigned comment signed by Super Mario Bros. (talk)
Thank you SoS. Super Mario Bros. (talk)
Yep, the Mario Kart naming proposal was shot down because it did not offer an alternative policy to the previous proposal. The previous was not simply about changing the name of articles, but established a policy about how all current and future articles should be named. As there was no rule before (I think...I'm not sure), someone could propose a policy to replace it at anytime, but it would need to be a clear system or policy, not simply change article title X to Y (i.e., overturn the previous decision for a small class of articles). A new policy would not overturn the previous proposal and can be issued if need be - to overturn it would mean a proposal calling for the elimination of standard naming conventions (which the Mario Kart proposal was essentially calling for by upsetting the standard). -- Son of Suns (talk) Clear Majority RuleI was looking at the comments of my last proposal and noticed that the proposal itself is a bit controversial. That is why I, Super Mario Bros. am organizing this proposal, which was originally voiced by Walkazo. If it were to pass, this proposal would create a rule that in order to pass or fail, the "winning side" of a proposal (with 10 votes or over) needs to beat the "losing side" of the same proposal by at least 3 votes in order to pass or fail. If it wins or fails with 2 votes or less or ends in a tie, then the deadline will be extended for another week. Proposers: Walkazo (talk) and Super Mario Bros. (talk) In Favor of Proposal
Against ProposalCommentsWhat happens if it is still tied or there is no clear majority after another week? -- Son of Suns (talk)
"It seems ridiculous that a change that big passed by a single vote. I've been meaning to propose a new rule saying that if a proposal has more than 10 votes, it can only pass or fail by some sort of margin (maybe by 3 or 5 votes) so that only clear majorities result in changes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and it's a close race (i.e. 13 vs. 14) then the proposal would be extended a few more days (again, 3 might be a good number). That way, we won't have to worry about flip-flopping on issues every month; it also deals with ties, which we don't have any official stance on at the moment." - If you're gonna use my idea, Super Mario Bros., at least have the decency to give me credit, because otherwise it's intellectual theft and if you do it in real life you can get in serious trouble (for example, if you're caught plagiarizing in University you get expelled). - Walkazo (talk)
Son of Suns: The official stance would be to extend the deadline by another week, but the practical thing to do would be that the proposer remove the proposal and rework it, taking into consideration all the arguments for and against it so that they could find a way to appease more Users and reach a clear majority next time (which, as the proposal was removed and not passed or failed, could come at any time without a 30/60 day buffer period). I've found turning all the arguments for and against the proposal into a chart and matching points and counter-points/rebuttals makes it easier to get a clearer idea of which of those arguments are strong and which are weak, and how to address the entire thing more effectively. I know I don't need to tell you how to reason, SoS, but I just thought I'd put my strategy out there anyway. - Walkazo (talk) MiscellaneousNone at the moment.
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