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====Oppose (Keep Trivia)====
====Oppose (Keep Trivia)====
#[[User:Fixitup|Fixitup]] Trivia sections exist for information that can't be placed WELL somewhere in another section of the article. Although some people overdo it, they still come of good use when there is such information.
#[[User:Fixitup|Fixitup]] Trivia sections exist for information that can't be placed WELL somewhere in another section of the article. Although some people overdo it, they still come of good use when there is such information.
#{{User:3dejong/sig|per above, plus the fact that there's no place else to PUT trivia.}}


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It's not a good idea to merge such a thing into the cameos section when it would only be one sentence. When you qualify a separate paragraph as one sentence, or even two the page looks like someone's trying too hard. Like I said, sometimes there actually can be a lot of information that shouldn't be crammed somewhere in the article. I would be very disappointed to see such an option to leave my grasp, especially for smaller pages. Come on, people. [[User:Fixitup|Fixitup]]
It's not a good idea to merge such a thing into the cameos section when it would only be one sentence. When you qualify a separate paragraph as one sentence, or even two the page looks like someone's trying too hard. Like I said, sometimes there actually can be a lot of information that shouldn't be crammed somewhere in the article. I would be very disappointed to see such an option to leave my grasp, especially for smaller pages. Come on, people. [[User:Fixitup|Fixitup]]
:Do you have any examples for us? {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 23:49, 14 April 2008 (EDT)
:Do you have any examples for us? {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 23:49, 14 April 2008 (EDT)
Where would the interesting facts go? What'd we do with the displaced trivia? {{User:3dejong/sig|III'MMM ACTING AS IF}}


==Splits & Merges==
==Splits & Merges==

Revision as of 23:56, April 14, 2008

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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done.
  • Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!"
  • "Vote" periods last for one week.
  • All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed with the signature code ~~~(~).

How To

  1. Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
  2. Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
    1. Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
    2. Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
    3. Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
  3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
  4. At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
  5. "# " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
  6. At the deadline, the validity of each vote and the discussion is reviewed by the community.
  7. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
  8. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.

The times are in EDT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after school, weekend nights).

So for example, if a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is indeed a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

Also,
NO PROPOSALS ABOUT HAVING BANJO AND CONKER ARTICLES -The Management.

CURRENTLY: 00:36, 27 May 2024 (EDT)

New Features

Normal Smash Movesets

I have read the Player's Guide to Super Smash Bros Melee, and realized that every character's moves have a different name. I propose to add a list of their move names on each character's page. It would help complete the articles, plus I remember some advice on the talk page of Son of Suns:"If there is any information ina a manual that is not on the wiki, upload it". Guides help you just as much as manuals do, so that's why we should do this. Anyone with me?DarkMario DarkMario.jpg Hamtaro PWNS|

Proposer:DarkMario DarkMario.jpg Hamtaro PWNS|
Deadline:Monday, April 21st,2008

Add

  1. DarkMario DarkMario.jpg Hamtaro PWNS| Reasons above.
  2. Stumpers! As long as this is the Official Nintendo Power guide we're talking about.

Do Not Add

Comments

What exactly do you mean by "Normal Smash Movesets"? My Bloody Valentine

Removals

Trivia Sections

While I'm well aware we are not Wikipedia, I feel that trivia sections detract greatly from the quality of an article. Pieces of information pertaining to topics adressed previously are placed in an unsorted list at the end of the article. Now, I know that we already are against, "overly long" trivia sections, and that's a good thing, but if we allow trivia sections to exist, they'll grow into "overly long" sections. In other words, we can either stop them before they happen, or we can wait until a dedicated user comes along and puts the factoids where they belong in the article.

Proposer: Stumpers!
Deadline: April 21, 2007, 17:00

Support (Remove Trivia)

  1. Stumpers! 23:12, 14 April 2008 (EDT) It takes 30 seconds in my experience to find an appropriate section and put a factoid at the end of it instead of making a trivia section. On the other hand, we risk readers not finding information about the subtopic they want to know about. They have to read the appropriate section AND the ENTIRE trivia section, full of unrelated information.
  2. Glitchmansig.PNG Glitchman (talk · contribs) Glitchmansig.PNG While some pieces of trivia information can be useful to the readers, most of what is under the trivia sections is just either an opinion (e.g. Toadsworth is about the same age as E. Gadd) or something found at an untrustworthy source. Better to prevent these sections from being made.

Oppose (Keep Trivia)

  1. Fixitup Trivia sections exist for information that can't be placed WELL somewhere in another section of the article. Although some people overdo it, they still come of good use when there is such information.
  2. 3dhammer.gif 3D, per above, plus the fact that there's no place else to PUT trivia. 3dhammer.gif

Comments

Of course, there's the issue about things such as the "Nintendo Monopoly" characters. Where do you merge them? Into a cameo appearances section. Stumpers! 23:12, 14 April 2008 (EDT)

It's not a good idea to merge such a thing into the cameos section when it would only be one sentence. When you qualify a separate paragraph as one sentence, or even two the page looks like someone's trying too hard. Like I said, sometimes there actually can be a lot of information that shouldn't be crammed somewhere in the article. I would be very disappointed to see such an option to leave my grasp, especially for smaller pages. Come on, people. Fixitup

Do you have any examples for us? Stumpers! 23:49, 14 April 2008 (EDT)

Where would the interesting facts go? What'd we do with the displaced trivia? 3dhammer.gif 3D, III'MMM ACTING AS IF 3dhammer.gif

Splits & Merges

Mario Kart DS Karts

So I've been reading through the after-mentioned articles, and I've noticed that they all read something like "The [insert name here] is [insert character here]'s [availability] kart in Mario Kart DS. [Describes appearance here]. [Describes stats here]." So I propose that we merge these into character aticles such as "Mario's Karts in Mario Kart DS" or something shorter to that effect. Opinions?

Proposer: huntercrunch
Deadline: April 20, 2008, 15:00

Merge Kart articles

  1. huntercrunch My reasons are given above.

Keep articles seperate

  1. Time Questions: They're all officially named and major enough to have their own articles. Appearance, stats, and maybe some trivia make enough info for an article.
  2. RedFire Mario: They're different things so they have to be seperate
  3. Pikax: Per Time Q. Plus, there is a table in the Mario Kart DS article itself that contains the stats of each car.
  4. GreenKoopa - Comments or questions? · Koopa.gif This is a MarioWiki, with information on EVERYTHING Mario related- This includes karts.
  5. Jdrowlands (talk) – Per all.
  6. Glitchmansig.PNG Glitchman (talk · contribs) Glitchmansig.PNG Per all.
  7. Giratinabylydarioss8.jpgPalkia47Palkia.png Dialga.png Though a lot of the karts have only made one appearance, they were big in the game. Tracks go for the same. Some items also. They should deserve TO BE SEPERATED!
  8. Stooben Rooben Each kart is different; that's reason enough for them to stay separated. Even if they are short, they can't be classified as stubs because they are complete and contain of all the needed information. If we were to merge all of the karts, we would have to merge all of the courses as well. It's simply to much effort for something that will make very little difference.
  9. BLOC PARTIER. Per all. The karts are different, and as long as they're not stubs, they're fine.
  10. Walkazo - Per all.
  11. Per Roob GrapesGrapes Grapes I agree about what he wrote up there ↑.
  12. Stumpers! The merges of badges and such were only because so little information was available for them.

Comments

Super Mario Advance series

It has recently come to my attention that there is a page for the original Super Mario Advance, but not for Super Mario Advance 4, which is just included as a remake of SMB3 on that game's page. There is also a separate page for the Super Mario Advance series, which includes information and the cover art of all four games. Having to try to find information about these games on different pages is a hassle, so I propose we delete the Super Mario Advance article and simply expand the page that has to do with the series itself.

Proposer: Glitchmansig.PNG Glitchman (talk · contribs) Glitchmansig.PNG
Deadline: April 21, 2008, 17:00

Merge articles to one page

  1. Glitchmansig.PNG Glitchman (talk · contribs) Glitchmansig.PNG My reasons given above.
  2. Blitzwing (talk · gnome work) - Per Glitchman. The Super Mario Advance series are simply a bunch of port with graphical enhancements, only the port of SM2 haves any real changes, and even with that, I don't think it deserves it's own article.
  3. Giratinabylydarioss8.jpgPalkia47Palkia.png Dialga.png Per all. Even though I don't own any Advance games except SMA, they should be merged. They're exactly the same game (with some changes).
  4. BLOC PARTIER. Per all. Uh, everyone else said everything else I was gonna say.
  5. Stooben Rooben Per Glitchman. I own two in the series, but have played all, and they definitely aren't original enough to have their own articles...especially when SMA4 doesn't even have one.

Keep the articles the same

Comments

Changes

None at the moment.

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.