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I guess it wouldn't be too surprising to see something like this slip through the cracks since ''Super Paper Mario'' was the first game in the ''Paper Mario'' series to beat the Japanese version to release (the ''Mario & Luigi'' series did beforehand, but those games' North American releases are technically the earlier revisions and were likely localized from an early version of the Japanese text as well, whereas I think ''Super Paper Mario'' was the first text-heavy RPG to have extremely close initial builds across regions). Regarding proposal, I'd toss in another option as well: split both Moon Clefts, or (perhaps more applicable) split ''The Thousand-Year Door'' Cleft and Moon Cleft while merging original Cleft with ''Super Paper Mario'' Moon Cleft. This would basically be similar rationale to having both Pale Piranha and "Killer Packun" split and neither being merged to the main Piranha Plant article. Not my first choice, but it'd be better than inaction. <s>I'd also maybe consider limiting options that basically do the same thing but change which article title to go with (i.e. the first and second proposed options) - we've had times in the past where such proposal options prove to be a bit too overwhelming, so I'd just go with recent naming policy in all cases in the interest of keeping things more simple and straightforward, though that discussion can possibly follow afterwards if the ''Paper Mario'' / ''Super Paper Mario'' merge option is chosen.</s> [Addendum: Okay, there is a line in ''Super Paper Mario'' that refers to Flint Cragley having starred in "''Dark Screams! Into Maw of Howling Cleft Colony of Terror!''", and it must be referring to the Moon Clefts that appear in the same chapter so maybe it's not so simple to say that Clefts are called Moon Clefts now.] Anyway, Niiue mentioned looking into the Clefts in other languages, which may influence the proposal's result, so it may be best to have that information ready first; otherwise, we may have a repeat of Flower/Pink Fuzzy, where not all details were known before ending. On a semi-related note, do you have anything to add to [[Talk:List of species#Tattle Log / Catch Card order in the Paper Mario series|this discussion]] (which, in retrospect, I may be overthinking)? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:06, March 16, 2020 (EDT) | I guess it wouldn't be too surprising to see something like this slip through the cracks since ''Super Paper Mario'' was the first game in the ''Paper Mario'' series to beat the Japanese version to release (the ''Mario & Luigi'' series did beforehand, but those games' North American releases are technically the earlier revisions and were likely localized from an early version of the Japanese text as well, whereas I think ''Super Paper Mario'' was the first text-heavy RPG to have extremely close initial builds across regions). Regarding proposal, I'd toss in another option as well: split both Moon Clefts, or (perhaps more applicable) split ''The Thousand-Year Door'' Cleft and Moon Cleft while merging original Cleft with ''Super Paper Mario'' Moon Cleft. This would basically be similar rationale to having both Pale Piranha and "Killer Packun" split and neither being merged to the main Piranha Plant article. Not my first choice, but it'd be better than inaction. <s>I'd also maybe consider limiting options that basically do the same thing but change which article title to go with (i.e. the first and second proposed options) - we've had times in the past where such proposal options prove to be a bit too overwhelming, so I'd just go with recent naming policy in all cases in the interest of keeping things more simple and straightforward, though that discussion can possibly follow afterwards if the ''Paper Mario'' / ''Super Paper Mario'' merge option is chosen.</s> [Addendum: Okay, there is a line in ''Super Paper Mario'' that refers to Flint Cragley having starred in "''Dark Screams! Into Maw of Howling Cleft Colony of Terror!''", and it must be referring to the Moon Clefts that appear in the same chapter so maybe it's not so simple to say that Clefts are called Moon Clefts now.] Anyway, Niiue mentioned looking into the Clefts in other languages, which may influence the proposal's result, so it may be best to have that information ready first; otherwise, we may have a repeat of Flower/Pink Fuzzy, where not all details were known before ending. On a semi-related note, do you have anything to add to [[Talk:List of species#Tattle Log / Catch Card order in the Paper Mario series|this discussion]] (which, in retrospect, I may be overthinking)? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:06, March 16, 2020 (EDT) | ||
:That's also my impression. I was wondering why the final English version seemed confused, with it referring to them as the "famous Piranha Plants" one second and then a "colorless subspecies" the next (though in all fairness, "subspecies" might not have been intended as the same implementation formerly used by the wiki). The fact that ''every'' localization considers it a Piranha Plant that adapted to its environment, even the English version were it not for the name, reminds me a lot of the Para-Beetle/Parabuzzy situation. I think that's enough information to rethink the [[Talk:Piranha Plant#Split Pale Piranha from Piranha Plant|split]] independent of the Moon Cleft situation. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 07:35, March 18, 2020 (EDT) | |||
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