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===List of Talk Page Proposals===
===List of Talk Page Proposals===
*Split [[Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U]] into {{fakelink|Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS}} and {{fakelink|Super Smash Bros. for Wii U}} ([[Talk:Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U#Split Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U into Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Super Smash Bros. for Wii U attempt 3|Discuss]]) '''Passed.'''
*Split [[Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U]] into {{fakelink|Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS}} and {{fakelink|Super Smash Bros. for Wii U}} ([[Talk:Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U#Split Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U into Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Super Smash Bros. for Wii U attempt 3|Discuss]]) '''Passed.'''
*Merge [[Garlic Pot]] with [[Garlic bottle]] ([[Talk:Garlic_Pot#Merge_with_Garlic_Bottle.21_redux|Discuss]]) '''Passed.'''
*Split [[Vampire Wario]] into {{fakelink|Vampire Wario}} and {{fakelink|Vampire Bat Wario}} ([[Talk:Vampire Wario#Split Vampire Wario and Vampire Bat Wario into separate articles redux|Discuss]]) '''Passed.'''
*Split [[Swooper]] into {{fakelink|Swooper}} and {{fakelink|Pat the Bat}} ([[Talk:Swooper#Split Swooper and Pat the Bat into separate articles redux|Discuss]]) '''Passed.'''
*Rename [[Castles - Masterpiece Set]] to {{fakelink|Ultimate Castle Challenge}} ([[Talk:Castles - Masterpiece Set#Rename as Ultimate Castle Challenge|Discuss]]) '''Passed.'''
*Split [[Koopa Clown Car]] into {{fakelink|Koopa Clown Car}} and {{fakelink|Junior Clown Car}} ([[Talk:Koopa Clown Car#Split Koopa Clown Car and Junior Clown Car into separate articles|Discuss]]) '''Passed.'''
*Split [[Koopa Clown Car]] into {{fakelink|Koopa Clown Car}} and {{fakelink|Junior Clown Car}} ([[Talk:Koopa Clown Car#Split Koopa Clown Car and Junior Clown Car into separate articles|Discuss]]) '''Passed.'''
*Merge [[Imajin]], [[Mama]], [[Lina]], [[Papa]], and [[Poki and Piki]] with [[Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic]] ([[Talk:Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic#Merge Imajin, Mama, Lina, Papa, and Poki and Piki with this article|Discuss]]) '''Deadline''': January 7, 2015, 23:59 GMT.
*Merge [[Imajin]], [[Mama]], [[Lina]], [[Papa]], and [[Poki and Piki]] with [[Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic]] ([[Talk:Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic#Merge Imajin, Mama, Lina, Papa, and Poki and Piki with this article|Discuss]]) '''Deadline''': January 7, 2015, 23:59 GMT.

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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
  • "Vote" periods last for one week.
  • Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so (not, e.g., "I like this idea!").
  • All proposals must be approved by a majority of voters, including proposals with more than two options.
  • For past proposals, see the proposal archive and the talk page proposal archive.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.

How to

Rules

  1. If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
  2. Only registered, autoconfirmed users can create, comment in, or vote on proposals and talk page proposals. Users may vote for more than one option, but they may not vote for every option available.
  3. Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts, except for writing guidelines and talk page proposals, which run for two weeks (all times GMT).
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
  4. Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
  5. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
    • Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
  6. If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
  7. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
  8. Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
  9. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week. Proposals with more than two options must also be extended another week if any single option does not have a majority support: i.e. more than half of the total number of voters must appear in a single voting option, rather than one option simply having more votes than the other options.
  10. If a proposal with only two voting options has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail with a margin of at least three votes, otherwise the deadline will be extended for another week as if no majority was reached at all.
  11. Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
  12. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
  13. If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
  14. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation (six days for talk page proposals). However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
  15. Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
  16. Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
  17. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
  18. Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.

Basic proposal and support/oppose format

This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.


===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created (14 for writing guidelines and talk page proposals), at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "June 2, 2024, 23:59 GMT"]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments====


Users will now be able to vote on your proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}}" at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can just say "Per my proposal".

Talk page proposals

All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.

For a list of all settled talk page proposals, see MarioWiki:Proposals/TPP archive and Category:Settled talk page proposals.

Rules

  1. All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPP discuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{settled TPP}}.
  2. All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How to" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
  3. Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one (all times GMT).
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
  4. The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.
  5. When a talk page proposal passes, it should be removed from this list and included in the list under the "Unimplemented proposals" section until the proposed changes have been enacted.

List of ongoing talk page proposals

Unimplemented proposals

Proposals

Split Mario Kart Tour character variants into list articles, Tails777 (ended May 4, 2022)
Classify the Just Dance series as a guest appearance, Spectrogram (ended April 27, 2023)
Establish a standard for long course listings in articles for characters/enemies/items/etc., Koopa con Carne (ended June 8, 2023)
Add tabbers to race/battle course articles, GuntherBB (ended November 18, 2023)
Remove elemental creatures categories from various Super Mario RPG enemies, Swallow (ended January 11, 2024)
Merge Super Mario Bros. (film) subjects with their game counterparts, JanMisali (ended April 18, 2024)
Remove profiles and certain other content related to the Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia from the wiki, Koopa con Carne (ended April 30, 2024)
Break alphabetical order in enemy lists to list enemy variants below their base form, EvieMaybe (ended May 21, 2024)
Consider "humorous" and other related terms as frequently misused in MarioWiki:Good writing, DrippingYellow (ended May 28, 2024)

Talk page proposals

Split all the clothing, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 12, 2021)
Split machine parts, Robo-Rabbit, and flag from Super Duel Mode, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 30, 2022)
Add product IDs in game infoboxes, Windy (ended March 18, 2023)
Split Special Shot into separate articles by game, Technetium (ended September 30, 2023)
Convert the lists of episode appearances for television series characters into categories, Camwoodstock (ended November 22, 2023)
Split the Jungle Buddies from Animal Friends, DrippingYellow (ended December 22, 2023)
Make bestiary list pages for the Minion Quest and Bowser Jr.'s Journey modes, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024)
Split Strobomb from Robomb, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 20, 2024)
Split the NES and SNES releases of Wario's Woods, SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (ended March 27, 2024)
Split Mario's Time Machine (Nintendo Entertainment System), or the Super Nintendo Entertainment version along with both console versions of Mario is Missing!, LinkTheLefty (ended April 11, 2024)
Remove non-Super Mario content from Super Smash Bros. series challenges articles, BMfan08 (ended May 3, 2024)
Split Cheep Blimp (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door) and Zeeppelin from the blimp page, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended May 28, 2024)

List of Talk Page Proposals

Writing Guidelines

None at the moment.

New features

None at the moment.

Removals

None at the moment.

Changes

Add an Easter Egg section to game articles

A while back, there was a proposal for creating sub pages for game easter eggs. A lot of votes mentioned that A. there aren't really enough easter eggs in a game to earn an full on article for them and B. they'd work better as a section in the game article. Well that's where this comes in. May as well start a proposal for adding an Easter Egg section. Not sure if it really needs a proposal but may as well throw it out there. An easter egg section can also cut down on the amount of Trivia a game article has (such as Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon for example)

Proposer: Tails777 (talk)
Deadline: January 6, 2015, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Tails777 (talk) Do I really need a reason to support myself?
  2. Toadbrigade5 (talk) Per. An easter egg page would look cool.
  3. Madz the Penguin (talk) Long Trivia sections make an article seem unprofessional (some wikis on Wikia, I'm looking at you), so even if I love Trivia sections, an Easter Egg section would make Mario Wiki seem like a more organized wiki. However, with an Easter Egg section, we might need to change the writing guidelines a bit to avoid speculation (ex. saying Bowser's inhale ability is an easter egg to Kirby's inhale wouldn't be allowed due to how different Bowser's inhale is to Kirby's inhale).
  4. SuperYoshiBros (talk) Per all.
  5. Mario (talk) Meh, I've suggested this in the link the proposal provided. I can't say I haven't changed my opinion on this. Nevertheless, I don't see why you need an approval when perhaps creating the section would be good.
  6. Viper26 (talk) Per all.
  7. Pseudo-dino (talk) Per all.
  8. 57sugoi (talk) Some of the things in trivia sections are kind of more like Easter eggs, so that could help this out. Also, adding Easter egg sections would make some things seem more fun and would definetely attract attention.
  9. Megadardery (talk) Per all, the current Easter egg page is terrible, it feels very crowded and having every one of them for their respective pages feels more in form. Also, delete the easter egg page and slap it in the Glossary or something.
  10. BabyLuigi64 (talk) Per all.
  11. Aokage (talk) Per Madz.
  12. Chocolate Mario (talk) Per all; as long as speculation is kept out, this will tidy things up.

Oppose

Comments

Ugh, @MadzthePenguin, I get that you like M@L:BIS but, why does everything you say need a reference? lol,jk Artwork of the Toad Brigade from Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker.Toad and his brigade!Toadette model CTTT.png 15:09, 30 December 2014 (EST)

Because I love references. Oh, I also love puns. Wynaut use references, because if I decided Natu, I would feel sad. It feels Fawful when you can't type references, because I Toadley love them. Audino why I just did Mario and Pokemon references and puns in those two sentences. Maybe that's why we need an Easter Egg section! Madz the Penguin (talk) 19:24, 30 December 2014 (EST)
Ok, that is Toadally Toadiffic. I'm going to stoad making Toad-puns Toaday. How you feel is definetly relaTOADable. But really, you must really, I mean, REALLY like BIS. Artwork of the Toad Brigade from Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker.Toad and his brigade!Toadette model CTTT.png 19:58, 30 December 2014 (EST)

Didn't we formally decide to move Easter Eggs and trivia sections into the body of articles where able? I seem to recall that. Then again, maybe we were all operating on the assumption that it was a formal decision. -- Shyghost.PNGGhost JamShyghost.PNG 00:31, 1 January 2015 (EST)

Not formally (at least not that I saw), but we had similar conversion when someone wanted to make a list for them. Yeah, Easter Egg page is terrible, so I support this proposal along with getting rid of that page.--
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13:54, 2 January 2015 (EST)
Wait, we have an Easter Egg page? I just looked at it, and it's terrible for Super Mario Wiki. It's not Le Miiverse Wiki or Haunted Hathoways Wiki terrible, but for a Mario Wiki, ugh. It's like the Sticker Star of Mario Wiki. Madz the Penguin (talk) 14:35, 2 January 2015 (EST)
In that it's decent but doesn't live up to its predecessors? The easter egg page couldn't live up to anything; it's absolutely incomplete if it wants to be a list of easter eggs, and gives such a vague definition to the point where it's confusing and inutile. Still, I think the page could serve as a compilation of easter eggs like List of references in the Mario series or the various outside references lists. Hello, I'm Time Turner.
Are all the things on the list even Easter Eggs? The last one on the list seems like a cool fact rather than an Easter Egg. I've seen worse pages on other wikis, but this is Mario Wiki, also known as one of the best wikis I've seen before. We don't deserve pages like this. Madz the Penguin (talk) 18:31, 2 January 2015 (EST)
I just saw the page, and it definitely should be replaced by sections in articles. That page should be removed, it is unorganized and has little information. Wiggler57sugoiWiggler 19:25, 2 January 2015 (EST)

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.