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I was looking at [[Special:RecentChanges]] and found some WIP you were working on. I have some similar stuff I was working on: | I was looking at [[Special:RecentChanges]] and found some WIP you were working on. I have some similar stuff I was working on: | ||
* [[User:Wildgoosespeeder/sandbox|Take Better Screenshots for Various Nintendo Hardware]] - Might make great supplemental material for [[User:YoshiKong/Help:Image]] | * [[User:Wildgoosespeeder/sandbox|Take Better Screenshots for Various Nintendo Hardware]] - Might make great supplemental material for [[User:YoshiKong/Help:Image]] | ||
* [[User:Wildgoosespeeder/QualityRequestTypes/sandbox]] - Expands {{tem|image-quality}} to make [[:Category: | * [[User:Wildgoosespeeder/QualityRequestTypes/sandbox]] - Expands {{tem|image-quality}} to make [[:Category:Images to be reuploaded with higher quality]] bloat more manageable. It also has a talk page with an active discussion (well it used to be but I would like to get the ball rolling again). | ||
** [[User:Wildgoosespeeder/PNG/sandbox]] | ** [[User:Wildgoosespeeder/PNG/sandbox]] | ||
** [[User:Wildgoosespeeder/Tweak/sandbox]] | ** [[User:Wildgoosespeeder/Tweak/sandbox]] | ||
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:Since my mind is on the subject, can you remove all but the first and last versions of [[:File:Super chick sisters.svg]]? --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 02:40, 17 July 2016 (EDT) | :Since my mind is on the subject, can you remove all but the first and last versions of [[:File:Super chick sisters.svg]]? --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 02:40, 17 July 2016 (EDT) | ||
::Actually, just wipe out 7 of those 10 versions of those images. The first version, the second to latest revision, and the latest revision stay. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 05:00, 17 July 2016 (EDT) | ::Actually, just wipe out 7 of those 10 versions of those images. The first version, the second to latest revision, and the latest revision stay. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 05:00, 17 July 2016 (EDT) | ||
:::Thanks for those deletions. Unfortunately, a mistake was made to my request. I guess I wasn't clear enough. The middle revision was one I wanted deleted. The revision I wanted to stay was one linking to a [[ | :::Thanks for those deletions. Unfortunately, a mistake was made to my request. I guess I wasn't clear enough. The middle revision was one I wanted deleted. The revision I wanted to stay was one linking to a [[mw:Manual:Assets|MediaWiki]] page. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 15:00, 17 July 2016 (EDT) | ||
::::OK, and to finish it off, delete the revision that has the comment ''Didn't look like that before. Let's try this one.'' (delete log should say <kbd>20160717061823!Super_chick_sisters.svg</kbd> was deleted). The 3 revisions I wanted to be left alone is to serve as notes that I attempted to understand the SVG format; to make it compatible with MediaWiki, the software that MarioWiki uses. Something is telling me that the SVG to PNG conversion (behind the scenes) is glitchy. When the SVG displays on real webpages, it shows a PNG rather than the real SVG so that way browsers that have inferior or no SVG support can still view the image the way it was meant to be viewed. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 16:57, 17 July 2016 (EDT) | ::::OK, and to finish it off, delete the revision that has the comment ''Didn't look like that before. Let's try this one.'' (delete log should say <kbd>20160717061823!Super_chick_sisters.svg</kbd> was deleted). The 3 revisions I wanted to be left alone is to serve as notes that I attempted to understand the SVG format; to make it compatible with MediaWiki, the software that MarioWiki uses. Something is telling me that the SVG to PNG conversion (behind the scenes) is glitchy. When the SVG displays on real webpages, it shows a PNG rather than the real SVG so that way browsers that have inferior or no SVG support can still view the image the way it was meant to be viewed. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 16:57, 17 July 2016 (EDT) | ||
You seem to be the go-to guy for deleting older revisions of files. Delete {{user|Its-a-me Yoshi!}}'s revisions for [[:File:NASuperGameBoy.jpg]]. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 03:53, 20 July 2016 (EDT) | You seem to be the go-to guy for deleting older revisions of files. Delete {{user|Its-a-me Yoshi!}}'s revisions for [[:File:NASuperGameBoy.jpg]]. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 03:53, 20 July 2016 (EDT) | ||
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:What about images linked to only on user talk pages? [[:File:Koopshasjoinedyourparty.jpg|This picture]] is nominated for "higher quality requested" on L151's talk page, but it is then removed from the mainspace. --{{User:A gossip-loving Toad/sig}} 12:05, 5 August 2016 (EDT) | :What about images linked to only on user talk pages? [[:File:Koopshasjoinedyourparty.jpg|This picture]] is nominated for "higher quality requested" on L151's talk page, but it is then removed from the mainspace. --{{User:A gossip-loving Toad/sig}} 12:05, 5 August 2016 (EDT) | ||
::I have no idea. Probably not. - {{User:A gossip-loving Toad/sig}} 20:03, 5 August 2016 (EDT) | ::I have no idea. Probably not. - {{User:A gossip-loving Toad/sig}} 20:03, 5 August 2016 (EDT) | ||
::I have gripes with not being able to edit and most sysops declining to edit user pages to replace an image that isn't {{tem|personal- | ::I have gripes with not being able to edit and most sysops declining to edit user pages to replace an image that isn't {{tem|personal-file}}. I purposely try to get a high quality screenshot match as close as possible to the current version of the image. That way they are interchangeable. In return, it doesn't cause [[Special:WantedFiles]] to be rendered useless. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 15:00, 5 August 2016 (EDT) | ||
== Help wanted in proposal creation == | == Help wanted in proposal creation == | ||
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== citation == | == citation == | ||
Hi. I encountered a problem when I tried to cite [http://www.gamefaqs.com/gamecube/920182-paper-mario-the-thousand-year-door/faqs/63451 jdaster64's PMTTYD enemy drop stat] on GameFAQs. [[ | Hi. I encountered a problem when I tried to cite [http://www.gamefaqs.com/gamecube/920182-paper-mario-the-thousand-year-door/faqs/63451 jdaster64's PMTTYD enemy drop stat] on GameFAQs. [[SMW:CITE]] requires the date if one is available from the website, but GameFAQs listed it in an ambiguous format "04/07/16". Anyway to cope with that? (It seems that jdaster64 has been inactive on this wiki, by the way.) —{{User:A gossip-loving Toad/sig}} 10:33, 10 October 2016 (EDT) | ||
:Thanks. By the way, would edits like [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Dizzy_Dial&curid=5532&diff=2073299&oldid=2073293 this] be appropriate when citing a document that says "Please do not redistribute/reuse the contents of this guide anywhere without my consent and due credit"? I'd also like to know that document is considered trustworthy. It seems to be something between [http://www.romhacking.net/documents/680/ primary sources] and [http://themushroomkingdom.net/pmttyd_j2e.shtml#areas secondary sources]... —{{User:A gossip-loving Toad/sig}} 10:44, 11 October 2016 (EDT) | :Thanks. By the way, would edits like [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Dizzy_Dial&curid=5532&diff=2073299&oldid=2073293 this] be appropriate when citing a document that says "Please do not redistribute/reuse the contents of this guide anywhere without my consent and due credit"? I'd also like to know that document is considered trustworthy. It seems to be something between [http://www.romhacking.net/documents/680/ primary sources] and [http://themushroomkingdom.net/pmttyd_j2e.shtml#areas secondary sources]... —{{User:A gossip-loving Toad/sig}} 10:44, 11 October 2016 (EDT) | ||
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Pointing out that "deleting" them with MediaWiki doesn't ''actually'' delete them. It just puts them into the server equivalent of a "recycle bin" so that they can be undeleted later. They're still taking up server space. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 22:21, 28 October 2016 (EDT) | Pointing out that "deleting" them with MediaWiki doesn't ''actually'' delete them. It just puts them into the server equivalent of a "recycle bin" so that they can be undeleted later. They're still taking up server space. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 22:21, 28 October 2016 (EDT) | ||
:Three things about that. One, it makes the file history more manageable. Two, if we really want to rid the wasted space on the files, {{user|Porplemontage}} has [[ | :Three things about that. One, it makes the file history more manageable. Two, if we really want to rid the wasted space on the files, {{user|Porplemontage}} has [[mw:Manual:Image administration#Deletion of images|this option]]. Three, makes me wonder why MediaWiki duplicates files upon reversion. A simple file selector would be way more efficient and less wasteful of server resources. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 22:47, 28 October 2016 (EDT) | ||
::Reboot, we're not deleting them to save space (though it sucks to know that we're *not* freeing up space. As Wildgoosespeeder said, the history of upload warring doesn't show any value, so we might as well remove them so the page doesn't load a million of these images. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 23:30, 28 October 2016 (EDT) | ::Reboot, we're not deleting them to save space (though it sucks to know that we're *not* freeing up space. As Wildgoosespeeder said, the history of upload warring doesn't show any value, so we might as well remove them so the page doesn't load a million of these images. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 23:30, 28 October 2016 (EDT) | ||
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:And especially since we don't upload fan art. That small group image is acceptable: we don't need a cropped version. {{User:Shokora/sig}} 07:38, 16 November 2016 (EST) | :And especially since we don't upload fan art. That small group image is acceptable: we don't need a cropped version. {{User:Shokora/sig}} 07:38, 16 November 2016 (EST) | ||
::I find it quite odd that Toadiko doesn't have any official artwork available to use. Does a [[Prima Games]] guide or similar exist with Toadiko art? [[Toadbert]] and [[Kylie Koopa]] get artwork but not [[Toadiko]]? When I was on the quest to replace [[:File:Partners01.GIF]] with [[:File:MLPiT Toadiko Vim Extraction Discovery.png]], I didn't come across Kylie Koopa. The point I am trying to make is that it's not like Toadiko is a character very late or very deep into the narrative like [[Gloomtail]] or the [[Shadow Queen]]. She is seen very early on and Nintendo tends to have artwork available for those kind of characters. {{unsigned|Wildgoosespeeder}} | ::I find it quite odd that Toadiko doesn't have any official artwork available to use. Does a [[Prima Games]] guide or similar exist with Toadiko art? [[Toadbert]] and [[Kylie Koopa]] get artwork but not [[Toadiko]]? When I was on the quest to replace [[:File:Partners01.GIF]] with [[:File:MLPiT Toadiko Vim Extraction Discovery.png]], I didn't come across Kylie Koopa. The point I am trying to make is that it's not like Toadiko is a character very late or very deep into the narrative like [[Gloomtail]] or the [[Shadow Queen]]. She is seen very early on and Nintendo tends to have artwork available for those kind of characters. {{unsigned|Wildgoosespeeder}} | ||
:::Also another image got tagged for deletion [[:File:Shadoo.PNG]] and it's being used on actual user pages ('''even mine'''). According to the bottom of [[ | :::Also another image got tagged for deletion [[:File:Shadoo.PNG]] and it's being used on actual user pages ('''even mine'''). According to the bottom of [[MarioWiki:Personal files|this page]], it says if the uploader isn't using it in this case it has a few (namely {{User|Xzelion}}, {{User|Shiny K-Troopa}} and {{User|Wildgoosespeeder}}.) It says to tag it to the user who has being using it for the longest amount of time. What are your thoughts because I don't want to start an edit war. {{User:The RPG Gamer/sig}} 01:05, 17 November 2016 (EST) | ||
::::I think that applies to only ''current personal images'' and not images that were designed for main articles or gallery pages, only to then be questioned if they should be tagged with {{tem|personal- | ::::I think that applies to only ''current personal images'' and not images that were designed for main articles or gallery pages, only to then be questioned if they should be tagged with {{tem|personal-file}} once they have no more use on those kinds of pages. I have already replied to {{user|The RPG Gamer}} on his talk page (he asked me first before talking to you). --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 03:03, 17 November 2016 (EST) | ||
Thank you. {{User:Shokora/sig}} 05:31, 17 November 2016 (EST) | Thank you. {{User:Shokora/sig}} 05:31, 17 November 2016 (EST) | ||
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I've seen ordinary users such as Wildgoosespeeder performing text replacement bots: how is this done exactly? I can't spot anythings like it at the [[Special:SpecialPages|special pages]]. {{User:Shokora/sig}} 16:54, 2 December 2016 (EST) | I've seen ordinary users such as Wildgoosespeeder performing text replacement bots: how is this done exactly? I can't spot anythings like it at the [[Special:SpecialPages|special pages]]. {{User:Shokora/sig}} 16:54, 2 December 2016 (EST) | ||
:Thanks to {{user|Porplemontage}} a few months back, he showed me [[ | :Thanks to {{user|Porplemontage}} a few months back, he showed me [[mw:Manual:Pywikibot|Pywikibot]]. That is how the text replacements occurred. I also used it to batch upload [[Gallery:New Super Mario Bros.#Credits|these]]. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 22:30, 4 December 2016 (EST) | ||
Just checking in on this situation. Are any of [[Special:Log/move/Eldritchdraaks|Eldritchdraaks redirects]] ready delete-request? --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 02:10, 12 December 2016 (EST) | Just checking in on this situation. Are any of [[Special:Log/move/Eldritchdraaks|Eldritchdraaks redirects]] ready delete-request? --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 02:10, 12 December 2016 (EST) | ||
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The existing enemy boxes for ''Partners in Time'' have an entry that lists any related species. For [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Baby_Bowser&oldid=2098921#Mario_.26_Luigi:_Partners_in_Time example], the enemy box for Baby Bowser lists "Bowser" as a related species. These information are not present in the bestiary which I am replacing the enemyboxes with via transclusion. Do you think it necessary to preserve those entries? --{{User:A gossip-loving Toad/sig}} 09:14, 8 December 2016 (EST) | The existing enemy boxes for ''Partners in Time'' have an entry that lists any related species. For [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Baby_Bowser&oldid=2098921#Mario_.26_Luigi:_Partners_in_Time example], the enemy box for Baby Bowser lists "Bowser" as a related species. These information are not present in the bestiary which I am replacing the enemyboxes with via transclusion. Do you think it necessary to preserve those entries? --{{User:A gossip-loving Toad/sig}} 09:14, 8 December 2016 (EST) | ||
:I really do not think it's necessary. Notable enemy/character pages should already serve that purpose using the {{tem|character | :I really do not think it's necessary. Notable enemy/character pages should already serve that purpose using the {{tem|character infobox}} For example, as [[Princess Shroob]] and [[Petey Piranha]] does. For less notable enemies with shorter articles, such as [[Lethal Bob-omb]], the related/derived species should be described within the paragraphs. Otherwise, there would be too much information crossing over between <nowiki>{{character infobox}}</nowiki> and the bestiary infoboxes. {{User:Shokora/sig}} 16:15, 8 December 2016 (EST) | ||
== re:Personal Image == | == re:Personal Image == | ||
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Right. Sorry about that. {{User:DKPetey99/sig}} | Right. Sorry about that. {{User:DKPetey99/sig}} | ||
== {{tem|character | == {{tem|character infobox}} == | ||
Hello. For subjects with no artwork available (like [[Dane T.]]), would it be better to put a sprite or a screenshot in the character infobox if both are available? --{{User:A gossip-loving Toad/sig}} 04:36, 26 December 2016 (EST) | Hello. For subjects with no artwork available (like [[Dane T.]]), would it be better to put a sprite or a screenshot in the character infobox if both are available? --{{User:A gossip-loving Toad/sig}} 04:36, 26 December 2016 (EST) | ||
:Good question. A quality sprite should be more appropriate in that case. But when sprites are too small to be seen properly at the native size (such as those seen in ''Super Mario Land''), then a screenshot might be better for the infobox, and the sprite shown elsewhere on the article instead. {{User:Shokora/sig}} 07:20, 26 December 2016 (EST) | :Good question. A quality sprite should be more appropriate in that case. But when sprites are too small to be seen properly at the native size (such as those seen in ''Super Mario Land''), then a screenshot might be better for the infobox, and the sprite shown elsewhere on the article instead. {{User:Shokora/sig}} 07:20, 26 December 2016 (EST) | ||
::Thanks! By the way, the {{tem|location | ::Thanks! By the way, the {{tem|location infobox}} has a <code>width</code> parameter to keep images at native size, but intended only to be used when the image is less than 250px. Can we use it for screenshots that are 256px wide when it means pixel-perfect display of the screen, like those of ''Bowser's Inside Story''? --{{User:A gossip-loving Toad/sig}} 07:31, 26 December 2016 (EST) | ||
:::I see. It seems okay to me; [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Sandbox&oldid=2111290 this looks] perfectly fine for example. {{User:Shokora/sig}} 07:45, 26 December 2016 (EST) | :::I see. It seems okay to me; [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Sandbox&oldid=2111290 this looks] perfectly fine for example. {{User:Shokora/sig}} 07:45, 26 December 2016 (EST) | ||
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::I don't think it's a bad idea. But I'd prefer if some magic words prevented the "time remaining" from appearing if the user was blocked indefinitely (i.e. either specified as the "length" parameter, or when no "length" parameter is entered at all). {{User:Shokora/sig}} 17:32, 31 December 2016 (EST) | ::I don't think it's a bad idea. But I'd prefer if some magic words prevented the "time remaining" from appearing if the user was blocked indefinitely (i.e. either specified as the "length" parameter, or when no "length" parameter is entered at all). {{User:Shokora/sig}} 17:32, 31 December 2016 (EST) | ||
:::I don't see how that would be necessary. One could click to see if the indefinite block is legitimate and not someone just spamming {{tem|block}} or if someone made a mistake with how to use {{tem|block}}. However, it can be easily done if the length parameter is specified with the help of [[ | :::I don't see how that would be necessary. One could click to see if the indefinite block is legitimate and not someone just spamming {{tem|block}} or if someone made a mistake with how to use {{tem|block}}. However, it can be easily done if the length parameter is specified with the help of [[mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions|Parser Functions]] (ie <code><nowiki>{{#if:{{{length|}}}| and [[Special:BlockList/{{BASEPAGENAME}}|block time remaining]]}}</nowiki></code>). --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 18:43, 31 December 2016 (EST) | ||
::::I mean, "time remaining" wouldn't need to be displayed if the user was blocked indefinitely. And the regular block log may still tell you whether the template was legitimately placed or not. Anyway, if your proposed coding is ready, feel free to take this to a talk page proposal. {{User:Shokora/sig}} 19:02, 31 December 2016 (EST) | ::::I mean, "time remaining" wouldn't need to be displayed if the user was blocked indefinitely. And the regular block log may still tell you whether the template was legitimately placed or not. Anyway, if your proposed coding is ready, feel free to take this to a talk page proposal. {{User:Shokora/sig}} 19:02, 31 December 2016 (EST) | ||