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If anyone is wondering about the name it comes from GoNintendo.com [[File:Paperjorgesp.png]] [[User:Paper Jorge|PJ]] | If anyone is wondering about the name it comes from GoNintendo.com [[File:Paperjorgesp.png]] [[User:Paper Jorge|PJ]] | ||
:How does it come from there? {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 23:50, 18 July 2007 (EDT) | :How does it come from there? {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 23:50, 18 July 2007 (EDT) | ||
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==Leave Category:Aliens in the Article== | ==Leave Category:Aliens in the Article== | ||
{{SettledTPP}} | {{SettledTPP}} | ||
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According to the Aliens category, Aliens are: ''....creatures from outer space, or otherwise not originally from Mushroom World or Earth.'' | According to the Aliens category, Aliens are: ''....creatures from outer space, or otherwise not originally from Mushroom World or Earth.'' | ||
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==Super Mario 3D World== | ==Super Mario 3D World== | ||
Since I have the game, I'd add the details but it's a locked article. | Since I have the game, I'd add the details but it's a locked article. | ||
She is an unlockable character which is unlocked after World Star-2 is completed, and the game must be completed once to access World Star. {{unsigned| | She is an unlockable character which is unlocked after World Star-2 is completed, and the game must be completed once to access World Star. {{unsigned|TonyTheCanadian}} | ||
:Added. Thanks! {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 18:44, 24 November 2013 (EST) | :Added. Thanks! {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 18:44, 24 November 2013 (EST) | ||
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Check out The Game Theorists, he just did a two part video on Rosalina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JcK_Bfe3sw&list=PL35FE5C4B157509C9&index=2 | Check out The Game Theorists, he just did a two part video on Rosalina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JcK_Bfe3sw&list=PL35FE5C4B157509C9&index=2 | ||
I think you will find the evidence very compelling. {{unsigned|SuperNovaXM}} | I think you will find the evidence very compelling. {{unsigned|SuperNovaXM}} | ||
:I think that it's unlikely that Lady Timpani and Blumiere are Rosalina's parents. You have some good points, though. I think it's safe to say that Rosalina's parents are going to stay unknown unless Nintendo gives more info on exactly who Rosalina's parents and her brother are. At any rate, Lady Timpani and Blumiere being Rosalina's parents is more likely than Peach and Mario being her parents (and Peach being "dead", for that matter), as many fans speculate (including the one in that video). It's very intriguing! -- [[User:FanOfRosalina2007|FanOfRosalina2007]] ([[User talk:FanOfRosalina2007|talk]]) 17:02, November 11, 2023 (EST) | |||
== Infobox image == | == Infobox image == | ||
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==Deciding Rosalina's Infobox Picture== | ==Deciding Rosalina's Infobox Picture== | ||
{{SettledTPP}} | {{SettledTPP}} | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|11-8|Image 1}} | |||
Recently, we have a slight edit war concerning Rosalina's infobox picture. Apparently, some of us are fine with the way she looks in the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' picture, otherwise, some of us want to change it because they see nothing wrong with it and besides, updating it to meet current games. I would like to stop this ridiculous edit war once and for all and settle this....like men (and women). | Recently, we have a slight edit war concerning Rosalina's infobox picture. Apparently, some of us are fine with the way she looks in the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' picture, otherwise, some of us want to change it because they see nothing wrong with it and besides, updating it to meet current games. I would like to stop this ridiculous edit war once and for all and settle this....like men (and women). | ||
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#{{User|KP}} Per all. | #{{User|KP}} Per all. | ||
#{{User|LeftyGreenMario}} The latter image is more recent, but I prefer the former image because it captures her calm, reserved personality better. Plus, there are no particle effects around her, so it's generally a better image to illustrate her in my opinion. | #{{User|LeftyGreenMario}} The latter image is more recent, but I prefer the former image because it captures her calm, reserved personality better. Plus, there are no particle effects around her, so it's generally a better image to illustrate her in my opinion. | ||
#{{User|YoshiKong}} – The policy on {{tem|character | #{{User|YoshiKong}} – The policy on {{tem|character infobox}} clearly states that ''"if the latest artwork is specialized for that game (i.e. the character's wearing sporting gear, driving a kart, etc.), an older image may be retained as the infobox image instead."'' The latter Rosalina artwork is specialized for ''SM3DW'', and wouldn't be suitable for illustrating her character as a whole... | ||
#{{User|Whisperstar13}} My words have pretty much been spoken by others already - I just think that when she's a playable character in a game, they need to add more of a personality to her, one that branches off from the one she displays in her original game...If the purpose of the infobox image is to portray her overall character, I think ''Super Mario Galaxy'' would be better. | #{{User|Whisperstar13}} My words have pretty much been spoken by others already - I just think that when she's a playable character in a game, they need to add more of a personality to her, one that branches off from the one she displays in her original game...If the purpose of the infobox image is to portray her overall character, I think ''Super Mario Galaxy'' would be better. | ||
#{{User|Skittles}} Second one doesn't represent the character. I've already made quite a few points below in the comments. | #{{User|Skittles}} Second one doesn't represent the character. I've already made quite a few points below in the comments. | ||
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Should be added as a Downloadable Playable Character | Should be added as a Downloadable Playable Character | ||
{{unsigned| | {{unsigned|178.201.88.73}} | ||
:Considering that she isn't downloadable, but rather unlockable in that game it shouldn't. Do you mean [[Mario Kart Arcade GPX]]?{{User|Yoshi876}} | :Considering that she isn't downloadable, but rather unlockable in that game it shouldn't. Do you mean [[Mario Kart Arcade GPX]]?{{User|Yoshi876}} | ||
==Move [[Rosalina]] to [[Princess Rosalina]]== | ==Move [[Rosalina]] to [[Princess Rosalina]]== | ||
{{SettledTPP}} | {{SettledTPP}} | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|2-17|Do not move}} | |||
So, I know that lots of users had proposed that, but once again I will propose it: Move Rosalina's page to ''"Princess Rosalina"''. I would say that because she '''is a princess''', and I'm not saying this because of her crown or even her dress. Her Super Mario Galaxy's bio states:{{br}}"Not much is known about Rosalina, the lonely princess who wanders the cosmos in the Comet Observatory, a giant starship that travels the celestial expanse. She is a great friend of the Luma, taking them in and caring for them as if they were her children. But there is a sadness behind her eyes. What has she lost out among the stars?" | So, I know that lots of users had proposed that, but once again I will propose it: Move Rosalina's page to ''"Princess Rosalina"''. I would say that because she '''is a princess''', and I'm not saying this because of her crown or even her dress. Her Super Mario Galaxy's bio states:{{br}}"Not much is known about Rosalina, the lonely princess who wanders the cosmos in the Comet Observatory, a giant starship that travels the celestial expanse. She is a great friend of the Luma, taking them in and caring for them as if they were her children. But there is a sadness behind her eyes. What has she lost out among the stars?" | ||
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::::Well nintendo normally likes to leave it upto the fans imagination, they hardly ever release any info on stuff like this or bother to make it. {{unsigned|94.14.123.173}} | ::::Well nintendo normally likes to leave it upto the fans imagination, they hardly ever release any info on stuff like this or bother to make it. {{unsigned|94.14.123.173}} | ||
:::::Unfortunately for fanon, this Wiki '''only''' covers officially confirmed information. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 21:48, 3 September 2014 (EDT) | :::::Unfortunately for fanon, this Wiki '''only''' covers officially confirmed information. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 21:48, 3 September 2014 (EDT) | ||
::::::Rosalina looks like Peach because the developers of Super Mario Galaxy originally made Rosalina a relative of Peach, but they scrapped this idea. However, Rosalina does still look a little bit like Peach. This does not mean that they're sisters. -- [[User:FanOfRosalina2007|FanOfRosalina2007]] ([[User talk:FanOfRosalina2007|talk]]) 17:08, November 11, 2023 (EST) | |||
==Laura Faye Returns== | ==Laura Faye Returns== | ||
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==Decide Rosalina artwork== | ==Decide Rosalina artwork== | ||
{{SettledTPP}} | {{SettledTPP}} | ||
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My proposal is simple: to decide what artwork should be used for Rosalina in her infobox at the top of the page. In a previous TPP, it was decided to use her ''Super Mario Galaxy'' (SMG) artwork, but it has been changed to her artwork from ''Mario Kart Arcade GP DX'' (MK). However, the artwork should be from her ''Super Mario Galaxy'' appearance for many reasons, the first having to do with technical aspects of the picture; the MK artwork has a white background, so Rosalina inside a white box inside a light green box, which looks unprofessional and slapped together; in her SMG artwork, however, there is no background. The second is that she is holding a wand in her SMG artwork, and the artwork for each character is to show his/her aspects and personality, so the wand shows readers at a first glance that she has some magical or mysterious aspect to her without reading a word of the article. She is also always depicted with this everywhere except in the ''Mario Kart'' series, due to the fact that she must drive with both hands. The last reason why her SMG artwork should be used is that SMG is a much more recognized and bigger game than MK: SMG has been release in almost every territory where the Wii is sold and has even become a Nintendo Select, whereas MK is an arcade game in Japan (and possibly the US, though even that is unsure); the MarioWiki article for SMG is also far more extensive than it is for MK, making SMG the definitive game. For all of these reasons, Rosalina's artwork for ''Super Mario Galaxy'' should be used for her infobox. | My proposal is simple: to decide what artwork should be used for Rosalina in her infobox at the top of the page. In a previous TPP, it was decided to use her ''Super Mario Galaxy'' (SMG) artwork, but it has been changed to her artwork from ''Mario Kart Arcade GP DX'' (MK). However, the artwork should be from her ''Super Mario Galaxy'' appearance for many reasons, the first having to do with technical aspects of the picture; the MK artwork has a white background, so Rosalina inside a white box inside a light green box, which looks unprofessional and slapped together; in her SMG artwork, however, there is no background. The second is that she is holding a wand in her SMG artwork, and the artwork for each character is to show his/her aspects and personality, so the wand shows readers at a first glance that she has some magical or mysterious aspect to her without reading a word of the article. She is also always depicted with this everywhere except in the ''Mario Kart'' series, due to the fact that she must drive with both hands. The last reason why her SMG artwork should be used is that SMG is a much more recognized and bigger game than MK: SMG has been release in almost every territory where the Wii is sold and has even become a Nintendo Select, whereas MK is an arcade game in Japan (and possibly the US, though even that is unsure); the MarioWiki article for SMG is also far more extensive than it is for MK, making SMG the definitive game. For all of these reasons, Rosalina's artwork for ''Super Mario Galaxy'' should be used for her infobox. | ||
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===Oppose (''Mario Kart Arcade GP DX'' artwork)=== | ===Oppose (''Mario Kart Arcade GP DX'' artwork)=== | ||
#{{User|Yoshi876}} Personally, I think the current image is fine. I see no issue with the white box, it still looks fine, and doesn't make the image look bad. And Rosalina's personality is more of a calm, mysterious person rather than a magical person which the current image demonstrates fine. And so what if ''Super Mari Galaxy'' is the "definitive game"? The infobox is not a popularity contest and so therefore "genre" has no baring on what goes in there. And why reference the previous TPP? Just because we decided on it that it should be kept then, doesn't mean it has to remain that way for all eternity. And to my final point in this, [[:Template: | #{{User|Yoshi876}} Personally, I think the current image is fine. I see no issue with the white box, it still looks fine, and doesn't make the image look bad. And Rosalina's personality is more of a calm, mysterious person rather than a magical person which the current image demonstrates fine. And so what if ''Super Mari Galaxy'' is the "definitive game"? The infobox is not a popularity contest and so therefore "genre" has no baring on what goes in there. And why reference the previous TPP? Just because we decided on it that it should be kept then, doesn't mean it has to remain that way for all eternity. And to my final point in this, [[:Template:character infobox|policy]], which says "A representative image of the character - ideally, artwork from the most recently released game.", as previously said in this argument the current image is representative of her personality, if it wasn't then we wouldn't have kept that change since May, and also seeing as Arcade is more recent that Galaxy it fits that point as well. | ||
#{{User|River Piranha}} Per Yoshi876. The image should be from a recent game to keep the page looking fresh. | #{{User|River Piranha}} Per Yoshi876. The image should be from a recent game to keep the page looking fresh. | ||
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} Per -censored because of character-876 | #{{User|Baby Luigi}} Per -censored because of character-876 | ||
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There's an official policy on what art infoboxes should use, [[Talk:Bowser_Jr.#Comments_3|and as I said last time a TPP happened anyway]], and less forcefully [[Talk:Rosalina#Comments_3|last time it happened here]], the fact that it's written on [[Template: | There's an official policy on what art infoboxes should use, [[Talk:Bowser_Jr.#Comments_3|and as I said last time a TPP happened anyway]], and less forcefully [[Talk:Rosalina#Comments_3|last time it happened here]], the fact that it's written on [[Template:character infobox]] rather than a policy/help page, and the fact that people don't always read very specific instructions, ''don't'' make it optional. The rule is: | ||
<blockquote>''A representative image of the character - ideally, artwork from the most recently released game. However, if the latest artwork is specialized for that game (i.e. the character's wearing sporting gear, driving a kart, etc.), an older image may be retained as the infobox image instead. Note that the infobox cannot be updated while a game is still upcoming: it can only be changed after the game is released.''</blockquote> | <blockquote>''A representative image of the character - ideally, artwork from the most recently released game. However, if the latest artwork is specialized for that game (i.e. the character's wearing sporting gear, driving a kart, etc.), an older image may be retained as the infobox image instead. Note that the infobox cannot be updated while a game is still upcoming: it can only be changed after the game is released.''</blockquote> | ||
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Did you seriously just link to a screencap of you falsely identifying yourself as a Mariowiki staff member --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 16:12, 16 March 2015 (EDT) | Did you seriously just link to a screencap of you falsely identifying yourself as a Mariowiki staff member --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 16:12, 16 March 2015 (EDT) | ||
::I'm an autoconfirmed user and i contribute to this site Everytime i can with proper information and content , with staff i don't mean i own the site , i mean i'm part of the people that gather information to complete articles in here.--[[User:Swiftie Luma|Swiftie Luma]] ([[User talk:Swiftie Luma|talk]]) 17:16, 16 March 2015 (EDT) | ::I'm an autoconfirmed user and i contribute to this site Everytime i can with proper information and content , with staff i don't mean i own the site , i mean i'm part of the people that gather information to complete articles in here.--[[User:Swiftie Luma|Swiftie Luma]] ([[User talk:Swiftie Luma|talk]]) 17:16, 16 March 2015 (EDT) | ||
:::Still doesn't make you staff: that title's reserved for promoted administrators, not any random old user who wants to increase their clout. [[ | :::Still doesn't make you staff: that title's reserved for promoted administrators, not any random old user who wants to increase their clout. [[SMW:WP#Level_three_offenses|It's a warnable offense]], in fact. It's perfectly fine for editors to take the initiative and email voice actors and whatnot if they want, but don't lie to them: it potentially damaging to the wiki's credibility and reputation to have people masquerading as responsible authority figures, not to mention that it's inconsiderate to the person you're deceiving, insulting to your fellow editors who ''don't'' feel the need to embellish their titles, and disrespectful to those of us who have actually earned the right to call ourselves staff. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 18:13, 16 March 2015 (EDT) | ||
::::If that's the case then please Excuse my behavior and excuse this misunderstanding , For that matter i personally believe that the best thing to do is the following , even if the email is actually true and all (you can always check this by emailing Kerri Kane): A) Updo Any edits on the matter recently, The page should be changed to reflect what the credits say. B) While i'm really sorry , i truly believe that this mistake i made is really Bad even if i didn't mean to , so i would like to know How to close my account in this wiki or whatever is similar to that , how do i do that? Should i PM an Admin? If so please , let me know so i can properly adress it. Sorry for the trouble! I was just trying to help , but i think i didn't do all the things right! Hopefully this will be enough to settle things :) --[[User:Swiftie Luma|Swiftie Luma]] ([[User talk:Swiftie Luma|talk]]) 18:39, 16 March 2015 (EDT) | ::::If that's the case then please Excuse my behavior and excuse this misunderstanding , For that matter i personally believe that the best thing to do is the following , even if the email is actually true and all (you can always check this by emailing Kerri Kane): A) Updo Any edits on the matter recently, The page should be changed to reflect what the credits say. B) While i'm really sorry , i truly believe that this mistake i made is really Bad even if i didn't mean to , so i would like to know How to close my account in this wiki or whatever is similar to that , how do i do that? Should i PM an Admin? If so please , let me know so i can properly adress it. Sorry for the trouble! I was just trying to help , but i think i didn't do all the things right! Hopefully this will be enough to settle things :) --[[User:Swiftie Luma|Swiftie Luma]] ([[User talk:Swiftie Luma|talk]]) 18:39, 16 March 2015 (EDT) | ||
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== "Princess" Status == | == "Princess" Status == | ||
So, apparently there's some debate over whether or not Rosalina is actually classified as a princess. Prima guides seem to be the only source of information, even though the information they put out is finicky at best. ''[[Mario Kart Wii]]''{{'}}s trading card bio is the only thing close to official that I can find that actually refers to her as a "princess". | So, apparently there's some debate over whether or not Rosalina is actually classified as a princess. Prima guides seem to be the only source of information, even though the information they put out is finicky at best. ''[[Mario Kart Wii]]''{{'}}s trading card bio is the only thing close to official that I can find that actually refers to her as a "princess". | ||
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Another piece of information. The 3DS app ''[[List of Mario references in Nintendo video games#Swapdoodle|Swapdoodle]]'' has those doodle lessons, where you draw Nintendo characters (which can be purchased from the shop). There is a purchasable Nintendo lesson pack called "Super Mario Princesses and Pals", which features lessons for drawing Peach, Toad, Rosalina, Daisy, Wario, Waluigi, Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Kamek, and Birdo. The description says:<br>''"It's the ultimate Super Mario doodle collection! You can learn to draw your favorite characters, such as the <big>Princesses</big> and <big>Donkey Kong</big>! You're invited to join the this huge gathering of Peach, Rosalina, and Daisy, along with Wario, Waluigi, and more!"''<br>I don't know if the "Princesses" part in the description refers to Peach, Daisy, and Rosalina.<br>When taking a Rosalina lesson, Nikki stated that she's a "mysterious girl who travels through space". But in a Daisy lesson, when completed, Nikki will say "Daisy is done! Draw her with Rosalina and Peach for a fun princess party! ☆", which definitely points to Rosalina's status of being a princess. - {{User:Infinite8/sig}} 13:02, 29 August 2018 (EDT) | Another piece of information. The 3DS app ''[[List of Mario references in Nintendo video games#Swapdoodle|Swapdoodle]]'' has those doodle lessons, where you draw Nintendo characters (which can be purchased from the shop). There is a purchasable Nintendo lesson pack called "Super Mario Princesses and Pals", which features lessons for drawing Peach, Toad, Rosalina, Daisy, Wario, Waluigi, Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Kamek, and Birdo. The description says:<br>''"It's the ultimate Super Mario doodle collection! You can learn to draw your favorite characters, such as the <big>Princesses</big> and <big>Donkey Kong</big>! You're invited to join the this huge gathering of Peach, Rosalina, and Daisy, along with Wario, Waluigi, and more!"''<br>I don't know if the "Princesses" part in the description refers to Peach, Daisy, and Rosalina.<br>When taking a Rosalina lesson, Nikki stated that she's a "mysterious girl who travels through space". But in a Daisy lesson, when completed, Nikki will say "Daisy is done! Draw her with Rosalina and Peach for a fun princess party! ☆", which definitely points to Rosalina's status of being a princess. - {{User:Infinite8/sig}} 13:02, 29 August 2018 (EDT) | ||
:I don't think the Swapdoodle lessons are quite explicit in categorizing Rosalina as a princess, but it should be supplementary information on top of the more explicit referrals. That last one should probably seal the deal along with the Sticker Book referral. I feel the potential argument that "it's princesses + Rosalina" is a reach that requires unnecessary assumptions. The other potential argument is that all statements on her princess status are always made when she's grouped with Peach and Daisy, but it's essentially the same "princess archetype" argument that I've deconstructed above. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 19:19, 29 August 2018 (EDT) | :I don't think the Swapdoodle lessons are quite explicit in categorizing Rosalina as a princess, but it should be supplementary information on top of the more explicit referrals. That last one should probably seal the deal along with the Sticker Book referral. I feel the potential argument that "it's princesses + Rosalina" is a reach that requires unnecessary assumptions. The other potential argument is that all statements on her princess status are always made when she's grouped with Peach and Daisy, but it's essentially the same "princess archetype" argument that I've deconstructed above. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 19:19, 29 August 2018 (EDT) | ||
Other material that classifies Rosalina as a princess is the video “[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z6qYcmlTBoc&pp=ygUOcHJpbmNlc3Mgc3R1ZmY%3D Princess Stuff on Nintendo Switch]” from Nintendo of America’s Youtube channel, where Rosalina is shown as much as Peach and Daisy. [[User:Wallowigi|Wallowigi]] ([[User talk:Wallowigi|talk]]) 03:49, April 17, 2023 (EDT) | |||
:There’s no denying that Rosalina is considered a princess in North American material, but from what we found so far that doesn’t translate to the title being part of her official name, like in the case of Peach and Daisy. As stated above, this comes from the fact that in Japanese material she’s rather a “mysterious woman”, and as such she isn’t given the “hime” title after the name and her kingdom is never specified either, unlike in the case of Peach and Daisy. So, right now as far as I know the current material doesn’t give a reason to change the page name, we just need to ensure to keep the bit about her being considered a princess in North American material, since this is definitely official.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 04:11, April 17, 2023 (EDT) | |||
== Rosalina's family == | == Rosalina's family == | ||
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== Rosalina's true home == | == Rosalina's true home == | ||
Hi, I am aware that there have already been discussions about it, but playing Super Mario Galaxy I realized the existence of numerous evidences showing that Rosalina was born on the initial planet of Gateway Galaxy. In the wiki, Rosalinda's home planet is said to be Earth, because the Star Festival is celebrated every 100 years in the Mushroom Kingdom. And we know that Rosalina visits her home planet every 100 years. In his picture book his home planet is referred to as a tiny blue planet. More precisely, in chapter 7, it is said that on that planet there is a hill dotted with flowers and a terrace on which she looked at the stars as a child. On the initial planet of the Gateway Galaxy there are hills with flowers and a house where the player can enter to return to the comet's observatory. Furthermore, the planet itself is surrounded by a blue light. This does not prove anything, they could be simple concidences. However, in the "Gateway's Purple Coins" mission, Rosalina says: "This planet ... is very dear to me. I was looking forward to visiting this planet with the Lumas every hundred years ..." | Hi, I am aware that there have already been discussions about it, but playing Super Mario Galaxy I realized the existence of numerous evidences showing that Rosalina was born on the initial planet of Gateway Galaxy. In the wiki, Rosalinda's home planet is said to be Earth, because the Star Festival is celebrated every 100 years in the Mushroom Kingdom. And we know that Rosalina visits her home planet every 100 years. In his picture book his home planet is referred to as a tiny blue planet. More precisely, in chapter 7, it is said that on that planet there is a hill dotted with flowers and a terrace on which she looked at the stars as a child. On the initial planet of the Gateway Galaxy there are hills with flowers and a house where the player can enter to return to the comet's observatory. Furthermore, the planet itself is surrounded by a blue light. This does not prove anything, they could be simple concidences. However, in the "Gateway's Purple Coins" mission, Rosalina says: "This planet ... is very dear to me. I was looking forward to visiting this planet with the Lumas every hundred years ..." | ||
Rosalina uses "this" to refer to the planet they are currently on, that is, to the initial planet of the Gateway Galaxy. | Rosalina uses "this" to refer to the planet they are currently on, that is, to the initial planet of the Gateway Galaxy. | ||
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:::I’ll also add that [https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Nintendo-Switch/Super-Mario-3D-All-Stars-1832369.html#Overview the UK site] doesn’t name her Princess Rosalina either, so yeah, it’s something exclusive to Nintendo of America. Weird indeed, since for obvious reasons they then couldn’t specify her kingdom like they did with Princess Daisy and Princess Peach.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 08:25, September 6, 2020 (EDT) | :::I’ll also add that [https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Nintendo-Switch/Super-Mario-3D-All-Stars-1832369.html#Overview the UK site] doesn’t name her Princess Rosalina either, so yeah, it’s something exclusive to Nintendo of America. Weird indeed, since for obvious reasons they then couldn’t specify her kingdom like they did with Princess Daisy and Princess Peach.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 08:25, September 6, 2020 (EDT) | ||
::::Yeah, we'll keep it Rosalina for now until something is more consistent. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:31, September 6, 2020 (EDT) | ::::Yeah, we'll keep it Rosalina for now until something is more consistent. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:31, September 6, 2020 (EDT) | ||
== Imgur link == | |||
[[Rosalina#cite_note-3|One of the sources]] cited in the infobox for Rosalina's "princess" mantle is an [https://imgur.com/a/ReseX Imgur link] to a screenshot of what appears to be the now-unavailable website for the Wii U version of ''Mario Kart 8''. However, all [https://web.archive.org/web/20141015000000*/http://mariokart8.nintendo.com/drivers/ existing snapshots] <small>(web.archive.org)</small> of the website's drivers section, including [https://web.archive.org/web/20171101000000*/http://mariokart8.nintendo.com/wiiu/drivers/ those] <small>(web.archive.org)</small> after the ''Mario Kart 8 Deluxe'' site remodelling, show a heading that commands attention to the Koopalings instead of the "Princesses" like in the screenshot. Additionally, I couldn't find any other corner of the website that promotes the game's drivers in a similar fashion. While I'm not really doubting the authenticity of the material in the screenshot (as it shows a patently identical layout and aesthetic to the actual website), I'm wondering if anyone can point to a more convincing archive of it. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 15:11, April 15, 2022 (EDT) | |||
::If you wait on the original ''Mario Kart 8'' site's driver section for a bit, the header changes to the one seen in the imgur link. [https://web.archive.org/web/20140716042032im_/http://mariokart8.nintendo.com/img/drivers/header_2.png Here's the associated image] with that header from the Wayback Machine showing that it does exist if the site doesn't switch headings for you for some reason. - [[User:RHG1951|RHG1951]] ([[User talk:RHG1951|talk]]) 15:48, April 15, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:::I know this is yet another Imgur image but just now I took a [https://i.imgur.com/2eYT8v4.png screenshot] from this [https://web.archive.org/web/20140430173237/http://mariokart8.nintendo.com/drivers/ Wayback Machine URL] to confirm that the headers do switch and they get referred to as "princesses". [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 20:47, April 15, 2022 (EDT) | |||
== A Mario Rabbids Sparks Of Hope section should added since a Rabbid based on her will appear in the game == | |||
For right now in that section you can say “While Rosalina has not yet been confirmed to appear, a Rabbid based on her likeness known as Rabbid Rosalina will appear in the game” I am surprised this has not been added yet {{User|35.137.242.245}} | |||
:I put it under "Other appearances". {{User:Swallow/sig}} 20:05, July 4, 2022 (EDT) | |||
::[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/57#Define the scope of "Other appearances" sections|That's not what "other appearances" sections are for, though]]. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 14:09, July 5, 2022 (EDT) | |||
== In Mario Rabbids Sparks Of Hope the heroes are apparently looking for Rosalina == | |||
In this recent video on the game here (https://youtu.be/rlqV5soG99s) after the Midnite boss fight Beep-0 mentions that they are looking for Rosalina which heavily implies that Rosalina herself will appear in the game at some point. For now can someone please add that detail to the Spark Of Hope section? I would very much appreciate it.{{User|35.137.242.245}} | |||
== You can slightly see Rosalina's right eye == | |||
In this picture, you can see a little bit of Rosalina's right eye, meaning that she is not deliberately covering up her eye as there is nothing wrong with it. | |||
[[File:SMG2Rosalina.png|220px|thumb|left]] | |||
{{unsigned|Mario's biggest fan}} | |||
:That makes sense, although I don't see anything on the page referencing anything further to do with her eye. Also, remember to sign your comments using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 02:03, January 24, 2023 (EST) | |||
== Rosalina’s Stature at the end of SMG == | |||
This is in regards to the last sentence in Rosalina’s “Physical description” section. Is Rosalina ''physically'' with Mario at the end of Galaxy? The entire scene before he returns home makes it seem like she is speaking to him telepathically or the like. It, at least to me, never felt like the actual statures of Mario or Rosalina were altered from a literal sense. Plus Rosalina has never been shown to alter her size ''without'' the use of an item.{{unsigned|172.56.97.20}} | |||
I don’t remember honestly? You could be right. Anyways, I would like to add that Rosalina’s height is pretty much inconsistent from game to game and many users and fans exaggerate it. She was shown to be very tall in Super Mario Galaxy and that carries to Super Smash Bros., but recent games show her to be just a few inches taller than Peach. Also, she floats. That makes her height difficult to estimate. [[User:Wallowigi|Wallowigi]] ([[User talk:Wallowigi|talk]]) 03:54, April 17, 2023 (EDT) | |||
== Listing Rosalina's appearance in The Super Mario Bros. Movie. == | |||
{{SettledTPP}} | |||
{{ProposalOutcome|vetoed|The intent of this proposal is based entirely on speculation, which is one thing this wiki does not allow in any way.}} | |||
I think we should list Rosalina's appearance in ''[[The Super Mario Bros. Movie]]''. Why? Because she's highly definitely likely to appear. Hint one, the [[Lumalee]] leaked [[McDonald's]] [[Happy Meal]] toy. Hint two, [[Princess Peach]]'s "'''There's a huge universe out there... with a lot of galaxies.'''" line. Hint three, the Lumalee leaked McDonald's toy. Hint four, the Lumalee appearing in the official final trailer. Hint five, Gusty Garden Galaxy music being used. Also, why in the stars would a Lumalee appear without Rosalina? Where's [[Yoshi]], [[Wario]], [[Waluigi]], [[Bowser Jr.]], the [[Koopalings]], [[Princess Daisy]], [[Dry Bowser]], [[King K. Rool]], [[Wart]], [[King Boo]], and more? [[User:MarioBobfan2007'snewaccount|MarioBobfan2007'snewaccount]] ([[User talk:MarioBobfan2007'snewaccount|talk]]) 22:40, March 17, 2023 (EDT)}} | |||
'''Proposer''': {{User|MarioBobfan2007'snewaccount}}<br> | |||
'''Deadline''': March 31, 2023, 23:59 GMT | |||
====Support==== | |||
#{{User|MarioBobfan2007'snewaccount}}. Support. Per proposal. | |||
====Oppose==== | |||
#{{User|Swallow}} Definitely not until it's properly confirmed she's actually in it; as of now there's no slight hint of it. | |||
#{{User|Shadic 34}} Speculation isn't something this wiki is really keen on, so I'll oppose. | |||
#{{User|MarioComix}} This would count as speculation, and we don't cover that on the wiki. There's currently nothing concrete linking Rosalina to the movie; technically, Lumas can appear without her as a form of world-building - their presence hints at a cosmic side to the Mario universe that could be explored in future movies. (Also, look at games that have Luma without Rosalina, like ''[[Mario Tennis Open]]''.) If there were leaked footage, concept art, or Rosalina's emblems appearing, then it could be brought up, but for now, this is pure speculation. | |||
====Comments==== | |||
== Rosalina’s Korean name == | |||
Rosalina’s Korean name 로젤리나 should be romanized “Rojellina” due to how Korean romanization works. [[User:ArgentuTA164|ArgentuTA164]] ([[User talk:ArgentuTA164|talk]]) 22:22, October 29, 2023 (EDT) | |||
== Very powerful figure? (+ Line sticker) == | |||
I'm kind of unsure about the very first phrase in the intro of her article. What does "very powerful figure" actually mean in her case, since Rosalina does not do anything particularly powerful/daysaving in the games she appears in? After all, it’s Mario who does most of the work, and characters like Bowser are shown to have an immense number of resources. I think it would be better to just start the phrase as “Her duty is […]”, which is already descriptive of her role in the series without being potentially biased (I still remember this page being even more POV-ridden, lol…) Plus, I'm confused about the LINE sticker in the personality section… honestly, I don't think it is that indicative of Rosalina's personality, since she is very rarely shown upset, as in the sticker. Of course feel free to tell me if you disagree. This is just a hindsight on my part. {{unsigned|Wallowigi}} | |||
:I think it's meant to describe her portrayal in ''Galaxy'' where she seems to have knowledge of how the universe works, and powers that transcend the universe's rebirth (when she appears before Mario much larger than usual). [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 20:50, April 24, 2024 (EDT) | |||