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  STATUS: Digesting information from the posts in the [http://tieba.baidu.com/f?ie=utf-8&kw=ique iQue] and [http://tieba.baidu.com/f?ie=utf-8&kw=%E7%A5%9E%E6%B8%B8 神游] subreddits of {{wp|Baidu Tieba}}
  '''STATUS''': see [[User:A gossip-loving Toad|user page]].
I have sociophobia and daren't go to the forums, though I have an account there


*[[User talk:A gossip-loving Toad/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
*[[User talk:A gossip-loving Toad/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
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If we've got the resources and ability to re-take those screenshots, then I would encourage doing so. Most screenshots on that list page are visibly low in quality, with a lot of JPG compression artefacts. Compare the same {{Plainlink|1=[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/archive/5/5b/20160417061741%21PM_Star_Piece_KoopaVillageBrick.png JPG]}} and {{Plainlink|1=[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/5/5b/PM_Star_Piece_KoopaVillageBrick.png PNG]}} screenshot. The latter is definitely sharper, clearer and more ideal. And don't worry about bloating up the file histories: the properly captured PNG version appear to have a [[:File:PM Star Piece KoopaVillageBrick.png|much lower file size]] compared to the JPG. So recapturing the images would also be good for the page's loading time.
If we've got the resources and ability to re-take those screenshots, then I would encourage doing so. Most screenshots on that list page are visibly low in quality, with a lot of JPG compression artefacts. Compare the same {{plain link|1=[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/archive/5/5b/20160417061741%21PM_Star_Piece_KoopaVillageBrick.png JPG]}} and {{plain link|1=[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/5/5b/PM_Star_Piece_KoopaVillageBrick.png PNG]}} screenshot. The latter is definitely sharper, clearer and more ideal. And don't worry about bloating up the file histories: the properly captured PNG version appear to have a [[:File:PM Star Piece KoopaVillageBrick.png|much lower file size]] compared to the JPG. So recapturing the images would also be good for the page's loading time.


Additionally a captured PNG is definitely preferred over a GIF, due to the limited color palette as Wildgoosespeeder said in the section above. The colors of a GIF Nintendo 64 screenshot wouldn't be accurate to the actual game.
Additionally a captured PNG is definitely preferred over a GIF, due to the limited color palette as Wildgoosespeeder said in the section above. The colors of a GIF Nintendo 64 screenshot wouldn't be accurate to the actual game.
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Hi, I noticed you were fixing sprite images mistagged as screenshots. There's a few in the Super Mario Maker category...
Hi, I noticed you were fixing sprite images mistagged as screenshots. There's a few in the Super Mario Maker category...
<gallery heights="32" widths="32">
<gallery heights="32" widths="32">
Chibi Robo.PNG
Chibi Robo.png
Diddy KongSMM.PNG
Diddy KongSMM.png
FalcoSMM.PNG
FalcoSMM.png
Foreman SpikeSMM.PNG
Foreman SpikeSMM.png
Ganondorf Super Mario Maker.png
Ganondorf Super Mario Maker.png
Inkling Girl Super Mario Maker.png
Inkling Girl Super Mario Maker.png
JumpmanSMM.PNG
JumpmanSMM.png
Kicks Super Mario Maker.png
Kicks Super Mario Maker.png
Little MacSMM.PNG
Little MacSMM.png
LucasSMM.PNG
LucasSMM.png
Mahjong Super Mario Maker.png
Mahjong Super Mario Maker.png
Mario (GLA) - SMM.png
Mario (GLA) - SMM.png
Mega Man Super Mario Maker.png
Mega Man Super Mario Maker.png
Meta KnightSMM.PNG
Meta KnightSMM.png
Mr GameWatchSMM.PNG
Mr GameWatchSMM.png
Nikki.PNG
Nikki.png
Pac-Man Super Mario Maker.png
Pac-Man Super Mario Maker.png
Peppy Super Mario Maker.png
Peppy Super Mario Maker.png
Pit Updated Super Mario Maker.PNG
Pit Updated Super Mario Maker.png
RobinSMM.PNG
RobinSMM.png
Samus SMM.PNG
Samus SMM.png
ShellcreeperSMM.PNG
ShellcreeperSMM.png
ShulkSMM.PNG
ShulkSMM.png
ShyGuySMM.PNG
ShyGuySMM.png
SideStepper.PNG
SideStepper.png
SMM Blathers.png
SMM Blathers.png
SMM Bowser.png
SMM Bowser.png
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SMM Dark Pit.png
SMM Dark Pit.png
SMM Digby.png
SMM Digby.png
SMM Donkey Kong Jr..png
SMM Donkey Kong Jr Sprite.png
SMM Donkey Kong.png
SMM Donkey Kong.png
SMM Dr Lobe.png
SMM Dr Lobe.png
SMM Dr. Mario.png
SMM Dr Mario.png
SMM Duck Hunt.png
SMM Duck Hunt.png
SMM Greninja.png
SMM Greninja.png
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Super Mario Maker Ashley.png
Super Mario Maker Ashley.png
Super Mario Maker Toon Link.png
Super Mario Maker Toon Link.png
Tom NookSMM.PNG
Tom NookSMM.png
ZeldaSMM.PNG
ZeldaSMM.png
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- [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 16:55, 4 October 2016 (EDT)
- [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 16:55, 4 October 2016 (EDT)
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:Normally when there is an explicit disclaimer against redistributing the content without permission, we would make some effort to seek consent from the author or person who derived a set of statistics like that. However in this case, I think it's reasonable to use the information (although still with due credit). It's not as though you copied/pasted his exact work for use and commentary: it seems to me that you've interpreted the statistics that he has provided (correct me if I am wrong). And regarding the dependability of these statistics, I personally think jdaster64's reputation on providing such statistics is enough to provide a fairly confident reference. However, if you weren't sure about the reliability of any calculated statistics from a particular source, you could still use it for the time-being if there is no other information currently available to compare it to. It would be preferred that such information have {{tem|bettersource}} attached.
:Normally when there is an explicit disclaimer against redistributing the content without permission, we would make some effort to seek consent from the author or person who derived a set of statistics like that. However in this case, I think it's reasonable to use the information (although still with due credit). It's not as though you copied/pasted his exact work for use and commentary: it seems to me that you've interpreted the statistics that he has provided (correct me if I am wrong). And regarding the dependability of these statistics, I personally think jdaster64's reputation on providing such statistics is enough to provide a fairly confident reference. However, if you weren't sure about the reliability of any calculated statistics from a particular source, you could still use it for the time-being if there is no other information currently available to compare it to. It would be preferred that such information have {{tem|better source}} attached.


:I hope this helps ya. &ndash; [[User talk:YoshiKong]] 18:11, 12 October 2016 (EDT)
:I hope this helps ya. &ndash; [[User talk:YoshiKong]] 18:11, 12 October 2016 (EDT)
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== RE: image category ==
== RE: image category ==


I'm going to say yes, but there isn't a category for it yet. Many pictures like that one need a category. [[:Category:Promotional photos]] ({{tem|promophoto}}) needs to be gone through amongst other [[Help:License|copyright tags]]. Question is, what category should be created for pictures of people? I would ask {{user|Porplemontage}} for advice (or even ask him to remove the <code><nowiki>[[Category:Promotional photos]]</nowiki></code> code temporarily to force affected images into [[Special:UncategorizedFiles]], like it was done several months ago with sprites and screenshots). --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 16:56, 15 December 2016 (EST)
I'm going to say yes, but there isn't a category for it yet. Many pictures like that one need a category. [[:Category:Photos]] ({{tem|photo}}) needs to be gone through amongst other [[Help:License|copyright tags]]. Question is, what category should be created for pictures of people? I would ask {{user|Porplemontage}} for advice (or even ask him to remove the <code><nowiki>[[Category:Photos]]</nowiki></code> code temporarily to force affected images into [[Special:UncategorizedFiles]], like it was done several months ago with sprites and screenshots). --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 16:56, 15 December 2016 (EST)


== Replace Images ==
== Replace Images ==
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== ''Partners in Time'' screenshot ==
== ''Partners in Time'' screenshot ==


I saw that you uploaded {{MediaLink|MLPiT Petey Piranha battle.png}}, however it looks like part of Luigi's cap is cut off. Was this an emulator glitch?
I saw that you uploaded {{media link|MLPiT Petey Piranha battle.png}}, however it looks like part of Luigi's cap is cut off. Was this an emulator glitch?


{{User:Shokora/sig}} 04:51, 12 January 2017 (EST)
{{User:Shokora/sig}} 04:51, 12 January 2017 (EST)
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The detail is so little that the current version of that PNG is better than the JPEG so I think the JPEG is worth deleting. If you really want to test things out, does SoftRasterizer render that part of the image correctly? Maybe you can stitch the two better halves of that screenshot together. I heard some good things about DraStic (iOS and Android DS emulator and $5 to own a copy of the software). --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 21:29, 12 January 2017 (EST)
The detail is so little that the current version of that PNG is better than the JPEG so I think the JPEG is worth deleting. If you really want to test things out, does SoftRasterizer render that part of the image correctly? Maybe you can stitch the two better halves of that screenshot together. I heard some good things about DraStic (iOS and Android DS emulator and $5 to own a copy of the software). --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 21:29, 12 January 2017 (EST)
:Honestly, I don't think many articles exist with files using the <code>Media:</code> prefix. I might be wrong though. I could only verify that [[Nintendo Switch]] and [[Electrodrome]] used it. Use a bot to perform the switches. Use care though! There could be intentional uses of the prefix, such as {{tem|MediaLink}} itself as a demonstration of its limitations. I would make sure to specify a specific namespace with your bot replacements.
:Honestly, I don't think many articles exist with files using the <code>Media:</code> prefix. I might be wrong though. I could only verify that [[Nintendo Switch]] and [[Electrodrome]] used it. Use a bot to perform the switches. Use care though! There could be intentional uses of the prefix, such as {{tem|media link}} itself as a demonstration of its limitations. I would make sure to specify a specific namespace with your bot replacements.


:<code>python replace.py -ns:0 -catr:Main -regex '\[\[Media\:(.+)(\|.*)?\]\]' '<nowiki>{{MediaLink|\1\2}}</nowiki>'</code>
:<code>python replace.py -ns:0 -catr:Main -regex '\[\[Media\:(.+)(\|.*)?\]\]' '<nowiki>{{media link|\1\2}}</nowiki>'</code>


:Be sure to test this regex before committing changes. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 16:02, 15 January 2017 (EST)
:Be sure to test this regex before committing changes. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 16:02, 15 January 2017 (EST)
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== Image To Replace ==
== Image To Replace ==


I'm shocked that [[:File:Shrowserbattlesprite.PNG]] isn't in [[User:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/Sandbox]]! --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 17:59, 18 January 2017 (EST)
I'm shocked that [[:File:Shrowser M&LPiT sprite.png]] isn't in [[User:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/Sandbox]]! --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 17:59, 18 January 2017 (EST)


== iQue ==
== iQue ==
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As long as you preface it by saying that the information comes from ''x'', yes. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 23:01, 3 February 2017 (EST)
As long as you preface it by saying that the information comes from ''x'', yes. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 23:01, 3 February 2017 (EST)
== Re: upscaled screenshots ==
Hi there. Sorry about the slight delay in responding to you.
I've seen Wildgoosespeeder lately uploading native resolution Nintendo 64 screenshots, which is perfectly acceptable according to policy. The only issue I see is that smaller parts of the image become much more difficult to see. Compare [http://www.mariowiki.com/images/archive/1/11/20170206043834%21FallOntoTheCagedIsland.png this] with [http://www.mariowiki.com/images/1/11/FallOntoTheCagedIsland.png this] for example. But the same could be said about small game sprites, which we always recommend uploading at the correct resolution. But if you were wanting to zoom in and crop a particular part of the image (like an object or character), high quality upscaling should be absolutely okay.
I'd say that it's not always strictly necessary to convert HD-rendering screenshots to their native hardware resolutions. But it's acceptable to do so.
{{User:Shokora/sig}} 07:59, 8 February 2017 (EST)
:I agree with {{user|Shokora}}. I think I have said somewhere else on this wiki that if you do it to get a {{tem|game-3Drender}} instead of a {{tem|game-screenshot}}, minus HUD elements, that could be a good enough exception to the general rule. At the time, for example, I felt compelled just to leave [[:File:Goomba Village.PNG]] alone compared to the rest of screenshots of [[Goomba Village (place)|Goomba Village]]. Also, I am debating leaving [[:File:SM64 CG Peachscastle.png]] alone as well. Just be sure to avoid common pitfalls as described in [[User:Wildgoosespeeder/sandbox#Glide64 settings to more closely match real N64 hardware internal resolution|my guide]] and [http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Nintendo_64_emulators#High-level_vs._low-level_graphics this page] (HL vs. LL graphics and texture filtering). --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 00:17, 9 February 2017 (EST)