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So, I guess, if anyone has thoughts... discussion can happen, or something. [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 14:36, January 17, 2024 (EST)
So, I guess, if anyone has thoughts... discussion can happen, or something. [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 14:36, January 17, 2024 (EST)
:It's also not "Troopa" Striker, it's "Toopa" Striker, the pun being they're found in pairs (something primarily associated with ''Hammer Bros'', not Troopas). I was always a little iffy on them being classified here due to their unconventional pink heads with tiny eyes and big red eyebrows, and the fact that SPM's Hammer Bros (which are ''not'' Troopas) also share many of the same visual characteristics with Troopas as these guys do. The only thing Strikers have more than them is that they duck into their shells when hit. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:48, January 17, 2024 (EST)
:It's also not "Troopa" Striker, it's "Toopa" Striker, the pun being they're found in pairs (something primarily associated with ''Hammer Bros'', not Troopas). I was always a little iffy on them being classified here due to their unconventional pink heads with tiny eyes and big red eyebrows, and the fact that SPM's Hammer Bros (which are ''not'' Troopas) also share many of the same visual characteristics with Troopas as these guys do. The only thing Strikers have more than them is that they duck into their shells when hit. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:48, January 17, 2024 (EST)
::I think it's possible they're not actually variants of Koopa Troopas, but I feel it is clear that they are Koopas of some sort, like how Buzzy Beetles or Lakitus are. My simplistic point of view can see more general similarities than Chargin Chucks and Boom Booms (stance, shell shape, some naming, behavior sorta, mostly backing up the last thing Doc mentioned with the ducking into their shells when jumped on), but that's also coming from someone who's... well, just going by what he sees and reads. My stance is that they could be variants of Koopa Troopas, but I'm not going to argue/debate against the opposite, cause there are fair points made there too. {{User:Tails777/sig}}15:07, January 17, 2024 (EST)

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I don't think this should be counted as a sub-species of Hammer Bros.; it was just a theory that they originally were, plus there named "Koopa Striker", not "Striker Brother". -- Sir Grodus

Koopa Troopa?

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Copying what I wrote in Talk:Chargin' Chuck over to here:

The main argument for Koopa Strikers being a variant of Koopa Troopa, from what I understand, is the English (and other languages whose scripts were translated from English) name for Koopa Striker and Troopa Striker, but aside from that? I mean, it looks kinda like a Koopa Troopa, but so do Hammer Bros in these games. And in the catch card list, the various types of Koopa Troopas, Paratroopas, and Koopatrols appear all together, while the Strikers appear later on in the list alongside other Koopa clan enemies like the Bros and Magikoopas. And unlike the explicitly Koopa Troopa enemies (even the Bones, which admittedly also listed separately), its Japanese catch card description doesn't refer to it as "Nokonoko", but as a "カメ族だいひょう" (Koopa clan representative?), which just mentions the Koopa clan in general. So I'm thinking the Strikers are just their own thing.

So, I guess, if anyone has thoughts... discussion can happen, or something. Blinker (talk) 14:36, January 17, 2024 (EST)

It's also not "Troopa" Striker, it's "Toopa" Striker, the pun being they're found in pairs (something primarily associated with Hammer Bros, not Troopas). I was always a little iffy on them being classified here due to their unconventional pink heads with tiny eyes and big red eyebrows, and the fact that SPM's Hammer Bros (which are not Troopas) also share many of the same visual characteristics with Troopas as these guys do. The only thing Strikers have more than them is that they duck into their shells when hit. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:48, January 17, 2024 (EST)
I think it's possible they're not actually variants of Koopa Troopas, but I feel it is clear that they are Koopas of some sort, like how Buzzy Beetles or Lakitus are. My simplistic point of view can see more general similarities than Chargin Chucks and Boom Booms (stance, shell shape, some naming, behavior sorta, mostly backing up the last thing Doc mentioned with the ducking into their shells when jumped on), but that's also coming from someone who's... well, just going by what he sees and reads. My stance is that they could be variants of Koopa Troopas, but I'm not going to argue/debate against the opposite, cause there are fair points made there too. Sprite of Yoshi's stock icon from Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Tails777 Talk to me!Robin's stock icon from Super Smash Bros. Ultimate15:07, January 17, 2024 (EST)