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==Ta-da!==
== Ta-da! ==
Been working on these rooms for about a week, and I'm proud to report I am finished. I did get some help from [[User: Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]] (Courtyard) and [[User: Snowblind|Snowblind]] (Billards Room and Balcony) though. Cheers to those guys! But like I said, every room is done. {{User|Monty Mole}} 17:01, 14 August 2006 (EDT)


Been working on these rooms for about a week, and I'm proud to report I am finished. I did get some help from [[User: Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]] (Courtyard) and [[User: Snowblind|Snowblind]] (Billards Room and Balcony) though. Cheers to those guys! But like I said, every room is done. [[User:Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9FF"><i>Monty Mole</i></font>]] 17:01, 14 August 2006 (EDT)
Good.{{User|HK-47}} 17:02, 14 August 2006 (EDT)
 
:Terrific! Now with '''PipeProjects''', such a process as ''Luigi's Mansion'' will become much easier to handle. {{User|Wayoshi}} </small> 17:28, 14 August 2006 (EDT)
Good.[[User:HK-47|H]][[User talk:HK-47|K]][[Special:Contributions/HK-47|-]][[Special:Emailuser/HK-47|4]][[Special:Blockip/HK-47|7]] [[MarioWiki:Donations|<font size= "1">w4z</font>]] [[Special:Random|<font size= "1">h3R3</font>]] [[Special:Version|<font size= "1">a</font>]][[Special:Uncategorizedpages|<font size= "1">t</font>]] 17:02, 14 August 2006 (EDT)
:Terrific! Now with '''PipeProjects''', such a process as ''Luigi's Mansion'' will become much easier to handle. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 17:28, 14 August 2006 (EDT)


==Ghosts==
==Ghosts==
''To save space, this template has been removed. This project is almost complete and can be found at [[Template:Ghosts]]. 14:48, 23 July 2006 (EDT)
''To save space, this template has been removed. This project is almost complete and can be found at [[Template:Ghosts]]. 14:48, 23 July 2006 (EDT)


This template will have been immediately added to all existing pages following this 'update' post. Looks like none of the three of us have been on today, but if you're on for 30 minutes, consider creating a page for one of the ghosts above (and putting <nowiki>{{Ghosts}}</nowiki> to add the template!). For portrait ghosts, explain where they're located and how Luigi can capture them. For common ghosts, Son of Suns, your [[Bat (ghost)|Bat]] article is a good example. Portraits are identified as characters, but not necessarily enemies (Neville and Lydia never try to hurt Luigi, but Chauncey does). Common ghosts are each a different species, and the only one of these that aren't enemies are the mice.
This template will have been immediately added to all existing pages following this 'update' post. Looks like none of the three of us have been on today, but if you're on for 30 minutes, consider creating a page for one of the ghosts above (and putting <nowiki>{{Ghosts}}</nowiki> to add the template!). For portrait ghosts, explain where they're located and how Luigi can capture them. For common ghosts, Son of Suns, your [[Bat (Luigi's Mansion)|Bat]] article is a good example. Portraits are identified as characters, but not necessarily enemies (Neville and Lydia never try to hurt Luigi, but Chauncey does). Common ghosts are each a different species, and the only one of these that aren't enemies are the mice.


I hope everyone who has played LM, not just me, Son of Suns, and HK, will help create the ghost articles. :) <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#008844;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span> 21:22, 20 July 2006 (EDT)
I hope everyone who has played LM, not just me, Son of Suns, and HK, will help create the ghost articles. :) <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#008844;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span> 21:22, 20 July 2006 (EDT)
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== Look out for Idiots!!! ==
== Look out for Idiots!!! ==
I found this [http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/127728/pirates-repackage-gamecube-games-as-wii-titles/ article] while Googling Luigi's Mansion artwork. Accoding to this, pirates have been repakeging Luigi's Mansion by putting it on DVD's, and inserting them into fake Wii version boxes. This means we have to look out for people who have been fooled into thinking this is real, because some n00bs might put these things into article. This is possible because some people were thinking that [[Super Mario World]] NES pirate was real. --{{User:Nerdy Guy/sig|Just making sure you guys know these things}}
I found this [http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/127728/pirates-repackage-gamecube-games-as-wii-titles/ article] while Googling Luigi's Mansion artwork. Accoding to this, pirates have been repakeging Luigi's Mansion by putting it on DVD's, and inserting them into fake Wii version boxes. This means we have to look out for people who have been fooled into thinking this is real, because some n00bs might put these things into article. This is possible because some people were thinking that [[Super Mario World]] NES pirate was real. --{{User:Nerdy Guy/sig|Just making sure you guys know these things}}
Um, how did this article became FA when there is more than 2 improvement templates on it? {{User:Super mario fan/sig|Double the link}}
:It was featured before it went much into depth, and after it got featured people realized that and started working on it, such as myself. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 20:26, 21 January 2009 (EST)
::I [[MarioWiki:Featured Articles/Unfeature/N/Luigi's Mansion|nominated it to become unfeatured]]. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 02:05, 22 January 2009 (EST)
== Lights ==
Does anyone know how to turn on the light on the staircase leading to the third floor? If anyone does I would be very thankful. --[[User:Count b|Count b]] 15:29, 9 February 2009 (EST)Count b
:We have a forum for discussing this sort of thing.  Please try to keep discussion related to improving the article.  Regardless, what you're asking is impossible to do. {{User:Twentytwofiftyseven/sig|}} 15:51, 9 February 2009 (EST)
== Portraits and New Mansion ==
Does anyone have  pictures of the silver and bronze portraits for the portrait ghosts? I think it would be a great addition the the portrait ghost's pages.
Also does anyone have pictures of all the levels of Luigi's New Mansion? {{unsigned|YoshiEggs}}
== 3-D series ==
Is this game considered part of the 3-D series? {{User:GalacticPetey/sig}} Will someone please awnser!
No because it's a spin off game. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
==Gallery Portraits==
I think that someone should upload all three frames of the gallery ghosts. For example, [[Neville]]'s bronze frame depicts his head with this facial expression: o:. However, his gold frame depicts him sitting on the chair reading a book. This will help get an idea of the difference in quality of the frames as mentioned. If someone can do it, then that'd be great!--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}
:I agree. Now where will we get the images? {{User:Reversinator/sig}}
::That's the only problem...:/--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}
== Trivia ==
"This game is seen by many as a total, complete, in all senses of the phrase, rip-off of the movie Ghostbusters. HOWEVER, this is relatively far from true. In the movie, they use proton-emitting 'wands' attached to the back-attached Proton Packs (thus the link to the Poltergust), with the general affect being that of a laser stream emitter. Plus, to actually capture the ghosts, the team used 'traps' which did have a slightly vacuum-reminiscent effect upon activation, where they had to be below the specter in need of capturing. So, Luigi's Mansion replaces all of that with a vacuum cleaner. So, while the game does take elements from Ghostbusters, (for the better) it doesn't rip off the movie as much as people think. "
Some of this trivia seems opionated to me, and somewhat irrelevant. Could we get rid of this or at least shorten it? --[[User:LuigiBros64|LuigiBros64]]
==Toad not a Generic Toad?==
Well I'm not entirely sure but it seems likely that this toad who is the option of the save file may infact be the character Toad. He is referred to as simply "Toad" in the instruction manual and even in the quote .."I wish I could do something to help you... Talk to me for help anytime!" , he shows that he is the only toad there, signifying that he is important and the only Toad there. Also he is one of peach's servants so is he the major character Toad?
[[User:Pichufan93]]
===So many Ghosts===
This has nothing to do with the wiki... the Mario universe had so many ghosts before Luigi's mansion couldn't they have been included?
[[Boo]], [[Boo Buddy]], [[Big Boo]], [[Terekuribo]], [[Boo Guy]], [[Lantern Ghost]], [[Eerie]], [[Stretch]], [[Fishin' Boo]], [[Boo Buddy Block]], [[Greaper]], [[Gusty]], [[Caged Ghost]], [[Blindfold Boo]], [[Inviso]] plus other monsters that fit the bill:  [[Mr. I]], [[Dry Bones]], [[Fishbone]], [[Zombie Wario]], [[Zombone]], [[Bony Beetle]], [[Bone Dragon]], [[Straw Head]]... the possibilities they had to "mariofy" that game are there, why did it feel so foreign?
== Sequel ==
Shouldn't it be mentioned that a sequel for the 3DS was mentioned by Hideki Konno in an interveiw with Nintendo power;
"'''Nintendo Power: You mentioned Luigi's Mansion earlier, so we have to ask: have you given any thought to a sequel for that game? it seems like it would be a great fit for the Nintendo 3DS.'''
Hideki Konno:When i did experiments with Luigi's mansion and the aforementioned 3D panel for the GameCube 10 years ago, ''i found that game was indeed a great match for 3D. so there is a chance that you can see a sequel for the Nintendo 3DS in the future''."
They said the exact same thing for Pikmin 3, and it is coming out...[[User:VersionJay|VersionJay]] 19:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
:A sequel for the game hasn't been announced yet, but Pikmin 3 was already announced. I think this shouldn't be in yet until we are 100% sure that a sequel is coming. After all, he said "there is a chance." {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}
==Delete Chronological Storyline section==
{{SettledTPP}}
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|17-0|delete section}}
Seriously, this is pointless. The section is ridiculously long and poorly-written, reading like an especially useless FAQs that merely describes the room progression and the cutscenes. It's also rambling and full of information that isn't relevant to the game (most of the stuff about E Gadd's backstory) or the storyline. The plot summary below it is more than good enough to descrive the game's plot.
'''Proposer''': {{User|Glowsquid}}<br>
'''Deadline''': April 9, 2011, 24:00 GMT
===Support===
#{{User|Glowsquid}} Per proposal
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per Glowsquid. The mere fact that we have two storyline sections looks disorganized: we should go with the one that actually follows established wiki conventions (i.e. the one that's a plot summary, not a novelization).
#{{User|Edofenrir}} - I agree with the proposal.
#{{User|Mario4Ever}} Per all.
#{{User|Zero777}} Per proposal
#{{User|Reversinator}} Per all.
#{{User|LeftyGreenMario}} Really, this proposal isn't necessary since the storyline thing doesn't even adhere to the standards, but I'll go with you.
#{{User|UltraMario3000}} Per Walkazo and the Mario that's  lefty and wears green.
#{{User|Magikrazy51}} This would be better on someone else's article like E. Gadd or Boo Woods or both. Per <s>Blitzwing</s> Glowsquid.
#{{User|BabyLuigiOnFire}} Having two sections on the story causes serious redundancy. I'd go with the more professional and encyclopedia-like.
#{{User|Bowser's luma}} I feel bad for whoever wrote all that redundancy that will be gone soon...
#{{User|Reddragon19k}} Two words: PER ALL!!
#{{User|SWFlash}} Do I have to say "Per proposer" everytime I support proposals? I think we need another proposal that disallows describing the support votes, like in FA proposals.
#{{User|Gamefreak75}} It's just a convoluted mess now. Per all.
#{{User|Bop1996}} Per all.
#{{User|Ultrahammer5365}} Yeah, it's way too long and rambling. Per all.
#{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Per all.
===Oppose===
===Comment===
@SW Flash Only if the reason for your support is the proposal itself. I think a proposal to remove reasons for one's votes would fail, since it appears that many users (myself included) find unsupported reasons invalid. {{User|Mario4Ever}}
== Nana and Petunia ==
in the Portrait ghosts part of the page, Miss Petunia is listed before Nana but you get the hint on Petunia's weakness from Nana's diary which means that you defeat Nana first and Petunia second, right? Or can you defeat them vice versa? [[User:Luigi time!|When Chauncey screams, so do I]]
::Hello, anyone there? [[User:Luigi time!|When Chauncey screams, so do I.]] 02:21, 14 May 2011 (EDT)
:::You can defeat them in any order.  [[User:MarioMaster720]]
::::You can do it in any order, but it would make more sense if Nana was listed first, then Ms. P. But it doesn't ''have'' to be changed, so... :O [[User:Username|<span style="font-family:onyx;color:#000">✄---Moshata---x</span>]] 13:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
==Weird fact==
''"Super Mario World: When Mario or Luigi entered the first haunted house, the Boos said that they have met them in a mansion somewhere"''
:Wait a moment, that game was released before this one, and the Boos didn't talk, did they? {{User:Supermariofan14/sig}}
::Good find. That reference is definitely bogus. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 20:30, 15 July 2011 (EDT)
==Luigi Hang Glitch==
Apparently, there's a glitch OR a possible Easter egg circulating the internet.
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjejTiRoOgk See it here...]
I don't think it's worth mentioning in the actual article, but rather, on a ''glitch article'' related to [[Luigi's Mansion]].
There are a few other known glitches to Luigi's Mansion as well.
Any thoughts on this? I thought I'd ask before messing anything up. [[User:Moshata|<span style="font-family:onyx;color:#000">✄---Moshata---x</span>]] 13:48, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
:All we could really say is that the shadow depicts Luigi off of the ground. It's not clear enough to consider it a depiction of Luigi's "hanging." {{User:Mario4Ever/sig}} 14:24, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
::Yeah, saying it's him "hanging" is going too far, but the fact that the shadow is floating is a valid glitch, and making a "{{fake link|Luigi's Mansion/Glitches}}" sub-page for it and other glitches (such as the Trivia point about the lack of fire in the mirror reflections) would be fine. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 19:03, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
:::I'll add it to trivia (once I think about a way to word it), but I will not include the video link because there's no point in my mind. Thanks again! [[User:Username|<span style="font-family:onyx;color:#000">✄---Moshata---x</span>]] 11:57, 24 July 2011 (EDT)
== Money ==
Maximum count of Small Pearls is greater than 76, which only applies if all ghost are vacuumed perfectly. I thought this would be mention worthy.
{{unsigned|85.217.21.71}}
==Beta Theme==
{{media table
|mediafor=Luigi's Mansion
|file1=LMBetaTheme.oga
|title1=Main Theme
|description1=A Midi representation of the BETA theme''.
|length1=1:03
}}
Although the beta is creepy, this beta tune is catchy. [[User:Kirby kart|Kirby kart]]
==Some things I think should be fixed==
I think that the beta elements section should be changed. Last time I tried to change something on a wiki, the Ghostbusters wiki went completely insane for a while, so I really don't want to do it. First of all, I'm going to site the http://luigibmansion.proboards.com/ Luigi's Bigger Mansion forums for everything in this request. I would enjoy it if you would take a good read of a few beta findings threads on the forums. Anyway, one example I can give is that the page states that, quote from the preview below the link to the page, "There was also a diffirent game over screen, as it shows the mansion dissapearing and Luigi having a disturbing look on his face." However, this has been debunked multiple times on the forums as just comic relief at the end of the trailer, and was not in fact an unused game over screen. One glaring, ENORMOUS example is that we even mention the "Safari Ghost" at all. The page makes it seem like it was actually in the game at one point, when actually the Japanese version of the game was ALREADY OUT before Nintendo Power ever even released that magazine. There are many mistakes, so I recommend you give the forums a read and change some things. Go to Gaming, and at the top there will be a link to the Luigi's Mansion specific threads. ~2spooky
:the LM beta page is notoriously poorly sourced, written and organized. Trust me when I say nobody's going to object cleaning up that mess. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 23:58, 11 August 2014 (EDT)
:I think I'll go handle it myself personally. Luigi's Mansion is my favorite game of all time and it p*sses me off to see it so horribly taken care of. ~2spooky
::As said, no one's going to make a big fuss over improving it. For some reason, articles about Luigi's Mansion have a notorious tradition of being of...questionable quality.--[[User:Vommack|Vommack]] ([[User talk:Vommack|talk]]) 20:37, 14 August 2014 (EDT)
:I personally believe it's because there are SO many rumors regarding Luigi's Mansion that people just believe, even if it was never true. Anyways, fixed up some grammatical errors, deleted a few completely untrue things, and added a part about the model ''elh''. I want to add a reference to TCRF but I don't know how so I just asked on the faq page. ~2spooky
== Luigi's Mansion Arcade ==
How come there's no information in this Wiki about ''Luigi's Mansion Arcade''?? The only info I can find is from Nintendo Wiki ([http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Luigi's_Mansion_Arcade here]). It's pretty bad to miss an entire game...--[[User:Kombatgod|Kombatgod]] ([[User talk:Kombatgod|talk]]) 18:36, 25 June 2015 (EDT)
:It may only be playable in a few places in Japan. --[[User:Hiccup|Hiccup]] ([[User talk:Hiccup|talk]]) 06:51, 26 June 2015 (EDT)
::We're aware, but Hiccup is correct. If we can't easily access information on the arcade, then hardly any users will create substantial non-stub articles on it. Even the wikia article is tiny. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 16:34, 26 June 2015 (EDT)
== Blackout ==
Does the Blackout merit its own article as an event? They actually call it "Blackout" in-game and the font when they do is colored. That to me is an indication that it should have an article. The article could include the different types of ghosts that appear in different rooms during it and how to turn the lights back on. Anyone with me? [[File:Mr. L.jpg|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 11:43, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
:Not really. It's a major occurrence in the game, sure, but the article will likely just have "The entire mansion goes dark and more ghosts appear." ...There really isn't enough to cover to give it its own article. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:17, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
::Not true. You didn't read my full post. I listed a couple things that the article would include. [[File:Mr. L.jpg|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 13:58, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
:::Knock yourself out (figure of speech). I am for you. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}}
:::Well, then see what you can put together. I still don't think the article is necessary, though, as it's only a short-term event. Get struck by lightning, recover the key from Uncle Grimley, open the breaker room, and turn back on the lights, all while fighting more plentiful ghosts. There's nothing truly noteworthy of the event and it'll likely end up being a stub article. Regardless, I'm rooting for you. Let's see what you come up with. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:45, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
:::Article created. Not done yet, but I'll finish as soon as possible. [[File:Mr. L.jpg|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 21:12, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
::::Done! [[File:Mr. L.jpg|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 11:17, 19 September 2016 (EDT)
::::Huh. There was more info to this than I thought. Good work! Should the construction template be removed? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 11:25, 19 September 2016 (EDT)
:::::Thanks! First article I did from scratch. And yes, the construction template was removed.[[File:Mr. L.jpg|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 21:11, 20 September 2016 (EDT)
== Luigi's Mansion Series Page ==
I am confused as to why the Luigi's Mansion games don't have a series page. There may be only 2 console games, but there's also an arcade game, not to mention that lesser known series like Mario Strikers and Mario Baseball have their own pages. Is there a specific reason why a page for this series hasn't been made? 16:43, 29 November 2017 (EDT)
:....I was going to say that there's no reason for it to have a page because it's only two games, but I had no idea Mario Strikers had a page. I guess either [[Mario Strikers (series)]] needs to be deleted or {{fake link|Luigi's Mansion (series)}} needs to be created.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 18:19, 29 November 2017 (EST)
== Rumor: possible release date ==
I'm not too sure if it matters at all, but there's currently a rumor saying Luigi's Mansion (3DS version) is being released on October 12, 2018 according to Best Buy. I just thought it might've been worth noting is all.
Source(s):<br>
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/08/rumour_luigirs_mansion_for_3ds_is_out_in_october_according_to_best_buy<br>
https://nintendosoup.com/luigis-mansion-3ds-dated-for-october-12-by-best-buy/
--[[User:Jjrapper100|Jjrapper100]] ([[User talk:Jjrapper100|talk]]) 22:33, 8 August 2018 (EDT)
::I guess the rumor was right after all, as the game is being released on October 12, 2018 in North America, though the Best Buy website still has yet to update the game's release date.
Source(s):<br>
https://nintendoeverything.com/luigis-mansion-for-3ds-out-on-october-12-in-north-america/<br>
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1031921238271127552<br>
https://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/dont-be-scared-by-the-launch-of-luigis-mansion-for-nintendo-3ds-on-oct-12-2018<br>
https://web.archive.org/web/20180824000758/https://www.bestbuy.com/site/luigis-mansion-nintendo-3ds/6219465.p?skuId=6219465
--[[User:Jjrapper100|Jjrapper100]] ([[User talk:Jjrapper100|talk]]) 20:46, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
== Name of 3DS Remake ==
Is "Luigi's Mansion 3" for Nintendo 3DS a development title until a new one is chosen? {{User:Syncro263892XL/sig}} 19:49, 13 September 2018 (EDT)
:<s>Yes, that's what we use for now.</s> Wait, no, the 3DS remake is the remake of the first game. ''Luigi's Mansion 3'' is a brand new game altogether and completely different. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 19:52, 13 September 2018 (EDT)
::Okay Mario jc. Thanks. {{User:Syncro263892XL/sig}} 11:14, 14 September 2018 (EDT)
== Reference ==
I included a reference to [[Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon]] in the "References in later games," section for the 3DS version, but I think I put it in the wrong spot because I don't know which games were between ''Dark Moon''. {{unsigned|Prpro&#61;03}}
:I moved this to "References to other games," since it's ''Dark Moon'' that is being referenced.<br>--[[User:PhGuy12|PhGuy12]] ([[User talk:PhGuy12|talk]]) 18:51, 12 October 2018 (EDT)
== Separate Page ==
Considering how many changes there really are in this game, should we make a separate page for the 3DS version?{{unsigned|Prpro&#61;03}}
:Nah, we don't need a separate page just for a list of changes. Overall, it's the same game, just with some added features. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:25, 12 October 2018 (EDT)
::Honestly, I don't think a split is necessary, either. I've made it up to Area 4; the story's been the same so far on the 3DS [[User:Arnold232|Arnold232]] ([[User talk:Arnold232|talk]]) 03:01, 15 October 2018 (EDT)
:::I personally think we should follow roughly what ZeldaWiki did with their OoT3D and MM3D pages, as there's still more than simply aesthetic differences, and I ''really'' want to avoid the writing of "so-and-so will then happen, but only in the remade version" that plagues many DKC/2/3 pages, as it's annoying and really kinda inexcusable. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 05:13, 15 October 2018 (EDT)
::::Well... I think a tiebreaker is in order here, and I change my opinion reading Doc's words, meaning "If you wanna do what Zelda Wiki did, go for it"... so far, it's 2 votes for aye and 1 for nay.[[User:Arnold232|Arnold232]] ([[User talk:Arnold232|talk]]) 23:01, 15 October 2018 (EDT)
:::::The 3DS port isn't different enough to warrant a new article.  I personally believe that direct ports like this should stay merged, while enhanced ports (like SMBDX) and full remakes (SM64DS) should be split.  The direct ports don't need anything other than an extra "list of changes" section, and that includes this. -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 00:36, 16 October 2018 (EDT)
::::::Agreed. Just because it gets released again doesn't mean it gets a whole new article. {{User:WeirdDave13/sig}} 00:45, 16 October 2018 (EDT)
:::::::I honestly don't know why ''[[New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe]]'' got a separate page... {{User:Alex95/sig}} 00:49, 16 October 2018 (EDT)
::::::::I think new title made it automatic? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:14, 16 October 2018 (EDT)
:::::::::I do not feel there are enough differences for a split to be necessary, but I do feel [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_52#Split_Switch.2F3DS_ports_with_substantial_new_content|this proposal]] is relevant while discussing how necessary certain port articles are. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 08:12, 16 October 2018 (EDT)
:::::::::: I also think there are not enough changes to warrant a split. I think the pages should stay merged. [[User:Fawful|Fawful]] ([[User talk:Fawful|talk]]) 11:11, 16 October 2018 (EDT)
:::::::::::I'm in support of a split. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 17:26, 16 October 2018 (EDT)
:I oppose the split --[[User:Mysterii|Mysterii]] ([[User talk:Mysterii|talk]]) 08:25, 17 October 2018 (EDT)
::::::::::::I'm against the split--the Nintendo 3DS remake can simply have its own section. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 13:48, 31 October 2018 (EDT)
In past times I would've said 3DS Luigi's Mansion is not changed up enough to warrant a separate article, but then again, [[Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3]] isn't ''really'' much more of a chance compared to its target game either, but it still gets a separate article because it has a different name, and that's an hugely arbitrary standard no matter how you mental gymnastic-it.
I realize what I'm about to describe is a bit nutty, but personally I'm willing to take the above-linked proposal a (lot of) steps further and just have subpage for every port of a given game, wheter it's something notably changed up Super Mario Advance or something like the Atari 7800 version of Mario Bros (but probably not Virtual Console releases since those are just emulated). Reserve the "main" page to talk about the basics of the gameplay and devote the versions subpages to deep dives about the deliberate changes, graphical choices, glitches exclusive to that version, development history specific to that version (if available), et cetera. We're a fan wiki: there's no excuse not to go all-in. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 12:06, 16 October 2018 (EDT)
:You're right about how ridiculous it sounds, but I think I'd be on board with this. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 17:26, 16 October 2018 (EDT)
:::Poochy and Yoshi's Woolly World is just a remake with some changes, but the game still has the same name, so we should split anyways. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 08:31, 17 October 2018 (EDT)
::::We should split it, it seems like a good idea. '''[[File:Luigistandrpg3.gif|25px]][[User:GrainedCargo192|<span style="color:purple">♠Grained</span>]][[User talk:GrainedCargo192|<span style="color:purple">Cargo</span>]][[Special:Contributions/GrainedCargo192|<span style="color:purple">192♠</span>]]''' 21:29, 27 October 2018 (EDT)
:::::Glowsquid's idea would be a whole lot of work, but I don't think it sounds ridiculous. It certainly makes way more sense than what we're doing now. I'd support a proposal on this.
:::::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 12:14, 2 November 2018 (EDT)
::::::I would also support the subpage idea. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:38, 5 November 2018 (EST)
== Maximum amount of Small Pearls in the 3ds version ==
The page says 76 but I have 125 small pearls. I'm guessing it was changed? [[User:Luigi86101|Luigi86101]] ([[User talk:Luigi86101|talk]]) 17:16, 16 October 2018 (EDT)
:The maximum amount is if you get every Large Pearl and Medium Pearl as well - basically, perfect scores on every portrait ghost. You can get more small pearls at the cost of fewer bigger ones, this doesn't qualify as a change. [[User:Superchao|Superchao]] ([[User talk:Superchao|talk]]) 11:28, 25 October 2018 (EDT)
==Split ''Luigi's Mansion 3DS'' into its own article==
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{{ProposalOutcome|passed|19-3|split}}
As you may know, Luigi's Mansion has recently got a 3DS remake that adds many new features such as an S rank, an expanded gallery, updated graphics, platinum frames, a new boss rush mode, co-op, new cutscenes, the strobulb, etc. This is why I propose that it should be spit into its own separate article. The ''Nintendo 3DS version'' section in this article is starting to run on due to the major changes in this version, and in my opinion giving the 3DS remake its own article would better sort out this information. Not only that, but other remakes/ports with much less new features such as [[New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe]] and [[Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World]] get there own article so in my opinion ''Luigi's Mansion 3DS'' should also have an article to itself.
'''Proposer''': {{User|Doomhiker}}<br>
'''Deadline''': "November 18, 2018, 23:59 GMT"
===Support===
#{{User|Doomhiker}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} We don't want ''any'' information getting conflated, and this is getting somewhat confusing. Per proposal.
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per all.
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Per all.
#{{User|Ultimate Mr. L}} This should seriously be extended to other ports and remakes. Per proposal and the discussion above.
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} Per all.
#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} If the ''Tropical Freeze'' and ''Treasure Tracker'' ports are getting split, I see no reason the ''Luigi's Mansion'' version should remain merged.
#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} The differences, while they're not quite as big as in, say, ''Super Mario 64 DS'', are still enough to warrant a separate article. Per all.
#{{User|GrainedCargo192}} Per all.
#{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} Per all.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} While I said that I disagreed with splitting the articles above, it would be inconsistent with the examples mentioned, and the previous proposal. Since ''Treasure Tracker'' also has the same name, I don’t think that makes sense to be a reason to keep them merged.
#{{User|MarioManiac1981}} It would be sensible to split up the article. If ''New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe'' warrants a separate article, then as does the 3DS version of ''Luigi's Mansion''. Per all.
#{{user|Mario jc}} The only reason they're together is because they share the same name. If this were called "''Luigi's Mansion 3D''" (a la ''Ocarina of Time''/''Majora's Mask 3D'', also by Grezzo), I guarantee it would've received a separate page from the start. While they're similar by name, I think they're different enough by nature to warrant separate articles.
#{{User|Bazooka Mario}} I don't see the problem in giving this one its own page. Would be much easier to illustrate differences between the games. We do generally cover remakes as their own pages.
#{{User|bwburke94}} The differences are enough to split it into a new article.
#{{User|George Jones}} It has enough differences to warrent an article for its own.
#{{User|Uncle Steve}} I think we could make it a separate article just because the existing section is ginormous and a pain to read/edit.
#{{User|Scrooge200}} Per all.
#{{User|BBQ Turtle}} Per all, there are a lot of changes.
===Oppose===
#{{User|WeirdDave13}} I don't feel there is enough new content to warrant a new page. I say we keep it the same.
#{{User|Alex95}} - Per Dave, and I don't think NSMBUDeluxe and P&YWW should be separate, either.
#{{User|Fawful}} Not only are there barely any changes, but the fact that there is no name change would get really confusing.
===Comments===
Uh guys, [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_52#Split_Switch.2F3DS_ports_with_substantial_new_content|there's already a proposal that dealt with this.]] I've also outlined my arguments in this in favor of splitting Luigi's Mansion for 3DS. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 13:42, 5 November 2018 (EST)
:This is, there wasn't much consensus above as to whether or not the changes in this case were "substantial" enough. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:18, 5 November 2018 (EST)
::As I understand it, the 3DS version of ''Luigi's Mansion'' wasn't released yet at the time of that proposal, so it's not directly covered. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:38, 5 November 2018 (EST)
::So as if i understand 3DS ports get split if they have a different name, and the changes are drastic enough? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 00:41, 6 November 2018 (EST)
:::Yeah, more or less. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 10:20, 6 November 2018 (EST)
:::It's more ''or'' than ''and''. As far as I know, ports with changed names get their own page by default. That proposal only deals with ports that have the same name as the original game, but have substantial changes for a split. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 17:07, 6 November 2018 (EST)
'''@Fawful''' [[Luigi's Mansion#List of changes|"...barely any changes"?]]<br>
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 15:14, 6 November 2018 (EST)
::That's actually more changes than exist between SMW2 and SMA3, for reference. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:40, 6 November 2018 (EST)
== Luigi's Mansion website content coverage ==
In the official website of the first game there was a flash game where one could go visit E. Gadd's lab. The lab served as the main location where you would pick different rooms, objects and machines to enter a new section.
https://web.archive.org/web/20011130141838/http://luigis-mansion.com:80/
The sections of the lab include:
* The Bookcase (Which contains information regarding Luigi's story as a character, the history of the game and other interesting things)
* Ask Madame Clairvoya (The Fortune-Teller Room where one could ask Madame Clairvoya anything and she would answer your question)
* The Poltercue (A pool game using the Poltergust 3000)
* Spooky Movies (Place to watch two clips from the game using QuickTime)
* Screamshot Gallery (A galler of photos from the game)
* The Drafting Table (A room containing some images of ghosts found by E. Gadd, funny stuff)
Here's an archived version that you can play right now.
https://skelux.net/flash/luigismansion/
However, it's missing the room to the fortune-teller room. It was far on the right and it was a green door as the one in the photo below. There is also a shadow that appears out of nowhere. It's actually an orange ghost but it's also missing the sprite. It seems the sprite of the door to the room is missing, but the code to the fortune-teller room exists inside the lab file. I used SWF Decompiler to prove it.
[[File:LM Full Lab Screenshot.png|250px|The green room is missing on the archived flash game version.]]
A lot of these especially the fortune-teller room and the bookcase have interesting stuff that should be added to the respective articles on this wiki, such as The Lab, Madame Clairvoya and possibly even the Luigi's Mansion main article. Let's not forget the voice lines in the Madame file make it stand out from the rest. They can easily be added to the character's list of quotes on her article.
[[File:LM website Ask Madame Clairvoya.png|250px|The fortune-teller room as it was shown in web archive.]]
I've made a video after I extracted the audios from the swf file of her room with all her responses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpPJ2G3Pgqg
My only request is for all of this content to be saved and added to the wiki and into the specified articles I mentioned above, so anyone can know what the site used to be. [[User:Alfonso720|Alfonso720]] ([[User talk:Alfonso720|talk]]) 00:22, December 16, 2020 (EST)
:Yeah, images can definitely be added to the relevant articles. We also cover [[:Category:Browser Games|official browser games]], so maybe a "Luigi's Mansion (browser)" or something could also be created. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 00:31, December 16, 2020 (EST)
::Thanks. I'll probably work on adding information tomorrow though. I'll also do a few changes to the Madame article to fit the information from the website. I also noticed the Poltercue article exists here, something I totally missed. It would be great if the Luigi's Mansion (website) article is created, we must include the main section of the lab and the others you can pick there. I don't know what screenshot we can use for the lab though since the one in the link above is missing some details like the door. I will probably need help on creating though, once again tomorrow. [[User:Alfonso720|Alfonso720]] ([[User talk:Alfonso720|talk]]) 00:50, December 16, 2020 (EST)
:::I think the website of ''[[Wario Land 4]]'' was basically a game in itself too, with lots of things that separated it from the game it promoted. Content like this should definitely be covered in some form. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 07:48, December 16, 2020 (EST)
::::Alright, now that I added some information to Madame Clairvoya's article, I think we could also think in the creation of Luigi's Mansion website article. My only concern with it, is what kind of main image we can use for that article since a screenshot of the lab in that link above wouldn't look good since it's still missing some details. I wish there was some way to make the lab complete again since I have all the files, but I don't know how to combine them all into the lab, not to mention the missing sprite of the door to Clairvoya's room. Also, I wanted to add the Ask Madame Clairvoya information in her article but I don't know if I should either make a new section, add it as another subsection in the heading "History" or add it all in Trivia. --[[User:Alfonso720|Alfonso720]] ([[User talk:Alfonso720|talk]]) 01:37, December 19, 2020 (EST)
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