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::I think the majority logic was that the ampersands contribute more to their titles than the colons (although it ''is'' a mite bit weird). {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 17:39, 20 November 2017 (EST)
::I think the majority logic was that the ampersands contribute more to their titles than the colons (although it ''is'' a mite bit weird). {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 17:39, 20 November 2017 (EST)


Would it be possible to run the bot on [[Template:SMB1 Levels]] (--> [[Template:SMB Levels]]) and [[Template:MP1]] (--> [[Template:MP]])? It seems odd when the games' titles don't contain the number one and other templates for similarly positioned games don't have a one in their title (for example, [[Template:NSMB]] or [[Template:SML]]). Not to mention [[Template:SMB]]. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 22:44, 9 March 2018 (EST)
Would it be possible to run the bot on [[Template:SMB1 Levels]] (--> [[Template:SMB levels]]) and [[Template:MP1]] (--> [[Template:MP]])? It seems odd when the games' titles don't contain the number one and other templates for similarly positioned games don't have a one in their title (for example, [[Template:NSMB]] or [[Template:SML]]). Not to mention [[Template:SMB]]. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 22:44, 9 March 2018 (EST)


== .OGG/.OGA Problem ==
== .OGG/.OGA Problem ==
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== Revert Several Edits ==
== Revert Several Edits ==
I am working with {{user|Fawfulthegreat64}} to resolve an issue I discovered with his uploads on [[Gallery:Paper Mario]]. Can you revert edits to that of {{user|Time Turner}}'s edit on  [{{fullurl:Gallery:Paper Mario|action=history}} 12:59, September 1, 2017‎] since there are three consecutive edits? --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 11:35, 2 December 2017 (EST)
I am working with {{user|Fawfulthegreat64}} to resolve an issue I discovered with his uploads on [[Gallery:Paper Mario]]. Can you revert edits to that of {{user|Time Turner}}'s edit on  [{{fullurl:Gallery:Paper Mario|action=history}} 12:59, September 1, 2017] since there are three consecutive edits? --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 11:35, 2 December 2017 (EST)
:Don't worry, I've done it. {{User|Yoshi876}}
:Don't worry, I've done it. {{User|Yoshi876}}


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== Bot work ==
== Bot work ==


Hi, would you mind running the bot to change all transclusions of {{tem|MLPJ Levels}} to {{tem|M&LPJ Levels}}? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 23:08, 3 December 2017 (EST)
Hi, would you mind running the bot to change all transclusions of {{tem|MLPJ Levels}} to {{tem|M&LPJ missions}}? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 23:08, 3 December 2017 (EST)


== Proposal on FLAC ==
== Proposal on FLAC ==
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== MediaWiki Text ==
== MediaWiki Text ==
For [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]], do you think it should have [[:Category:Unresolved talk pages]] under '''Community''' somewhere, maybe between '''Proposals''' and '''Mario Boards'''? --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 13:21, 3 January 2018 (EST)
For [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]], do you think it should have [[:Category:Talk pages with unresolved issues]] under '''Community''' somewhere, maybe between '''Proposals''' and '''Mario Boards'''? --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 13:21, 3 January 2018 (EST)
:No, not at all. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 13:23, 3 January 2018 (EST)
:No, not at all. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 13:23, 3 January 2018 (EST)
::Oh. I thought it would make sense because we have a lot of talk pages going unresolved. I think it is because not many users are aware of its existence. It's easy to miss on [[MarioWiki:Maintenance]]. I have even seen removal of {{tem|talk}} because no one wanted to participate in a discussion, leaving nothing resolved. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 13:35, 3 January 2018 (EST)
::Oh. I thought it would make sense because we have a lot of talk pages going unresolved. I think it is because not many users are aware of its existence. It's easy to miss on [[MarioWiki:Maintenance]]. I have even seen removal of {{tem|talk}} because no one wanted to participate in a discussion, leaving nothing resolved. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 13:35, 3 January 2018 (EST)
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== Recreate Editing Tools ==
== Recreate Editing Tools ==
[[MediaWiki:Edittools]] should be recreated. Why? It would be useful for inserting Japanese characters and [[Special:Interwiki|NIWA]] markup. Just take a look at [[f-zerowiki:MediaWiki:Edittools|Edit tools on F-Zero Wiki]]. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 17:44, 8 February 2018 (EST)
[[MediaWiki:Edittools]] should be recreated. Why? It would be useful for inserting Japanese characters and [[Special:Interwiki|NIWA]] markup. Just take a look at [[fzerowiki:MediaWiki:Edittools|Edit tools on F-Zero Wiki]]. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 17:44, 8 February 2018 (EST)
:Still thinking about it? --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 13:12, 12 February 2018 (EST)
:Still thinking about it? --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 13:12, 12 February 2018 (EST)
On a side note, it would be nice if the <code>metadata</code> feature for file uploads was visible (would appear under <code>file usage</code>). I realize that any image that was optimized with [[User:Wildgoosespeeder/PNG Monstrous|my program]] or similar will be lacking the section. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 22:01, 27 February 2018 (EST)
On a side note, it would be nice if the <code>metadata</code> feature for file uploads was visible (would appear under <code>file usage</code>). I realize that any image that was optimized with [[User:Wildgoosespeeder/PNG Monstrous|my program]] or similar will be lacking the section. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 22:01, 27 February 2018 (EST)
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== Bot work (again) ==
== Bot work (again) ==


<del>Hi, when you get the chance, could you please run the bot to change all instances of {{tem|The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! Animated}} to {{tem|TSMBSS}} (and {{tem|SMBSS}} to {{tem|TSMBSS Episodes}})? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 17:40, 13 February 2018 (EST)</del>
<del>Hi, when you get the chance, could you please run the bot to change all instances of {{tem|The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! Animated}} to {{tem|TSMBSS animation}} (and {{tem|SMBSS}} to {{tem|TSMBSS episodes}})? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 17:40, 13 February 2018 (EST)</del>
:Hang on, that's incompatible with [[Template:The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! Live]]. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 17:41, 13 February 2018 (EST)
:Hang on, that's incompatible with [[Template:The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! Live]]. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 17:41, 13 February 2018 (EST)
::Okay, could you please instead run the bot to change all instances of {{tem|The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! Animated}} to {{tem|TSMBSS (animation)}}, {{tem|The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! Live}} to {{tem|TSMBSS (live-action)}}, and {{tem|SMBSS}} to {{tem|TSMBSS Episodes}}? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 17:46, 13 February 2018 (EST)
::Okay, could you please instead run the bot to change all instances of {{tem|The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! Animated}} to {{tem|TSMBSS animation}}, {{tem|The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! Live}} to {{tem|TSMBSS live action}}, and {{tem|SMBSS}} to {{tem|TSMBSS episodes}}? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 17:46, 13 February 2018 (EST)


== Morty Mole vs. Mega Mole ==
== Morty Mole vs. Mega Mole ==
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:[[Dry Dry Ruins (Wii)]] is correct. The ''Mario Kart'' course always gets the retro console abbreviation identifier. The non-''Mario Kart'' series race course would use the game name. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 11:41, 12 March 2018 (EDT)
:[[Dry Dry Ruins (Wii)]] is correct. The ''Mario Kart'' course always gets the retro console abbreviation identifier. The non-''Mario Kart'' series race course would use the game name. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 11:41, 12 March 2018 (EDT)
::Okay; I'm just asking since that setup is likely to confuse readers, considering ''Paper Mario'' (the game the other Dry Dry Ruins appears in) '''was''' a Wii Virtual Console game. Since I still have my doubts, is it alright if I draft a three-option proposal covering how to use retro identifiers? I'll explain much of the details once I start. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 14:47, 12 March 2018 (EDT)
::Okay; I'm just asking since that setup is likely to confuse readers, considering ''Paper Mario'' (the game the other Dry Dry Ruins appears in) '''was''' a Wii Virtual Console game. Since I still have my doubts, is it alright if I draft a three-option proposal covering how to use retro identifiers? I'll explain much of the details once I start. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 14:47, 12 March 2018 (EDT)
:::No, don't do that. {{tem|about}} is right there at the top to dispel any confusion. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 15:09, 12 March 2018 (EDT)
:::Also, even though the game is on the Wii, Paper Mario is more console associated with the Nintendo 64, so if a user saw (Wii), they would know that it wasn't Paper Mario's version. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 15:34, 12 March 2018 (EDT)
:::Here's the deal: The ''Mario Kart'' identifiers aren't 100% identifiers. They're a compromise between an identifier and what the course title is or would be if it were brought back as a retro course. I also like the consistency [[:Category:Mario Kart Wii Race Courses|among the courses]] now. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 15:45, 12 March 2018 (EDT)
::::Well, while I ''will'' include an option for not including retro identifiers at all, this would '''''not''''' be an opinion I would even remotely support, and would probably just throw it in there for the sake of other users' opinions. All in all, I understand your skepticism, I honestly do, but keep in mind that my concern for confusion is aimed more towards those who aren't yet familiar with the series, not necessarily those who are. How about if I draft the proposal anyway, then we'll deal with the actual passages of the proposal once I'm done?
::::Also, for the sake of it, what about the two [[Luigi's Mansion (battle course)|Luigi's]] [[Luigi's Mansion (race course)|Mansion]] courses? Did you have plans for moving those too? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 17:03, 12 March 2018 (EDT)
:::::There will be no proposal on this. There is no perfect solution, but this is what it's going to be right now. The Luigi's Mansion articles are already moved. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 17:08, 12 March 2018 (EDT)
::::::I only said I was going to draft the proposal, not necessarily implement it. Also, the reason I brought up Luigi's Mansion was because one is a battle course while the other is a race course. Now, I know you're probably thinking, "Please, why are you dragging this on and on? This solution works, period!" However, in this particular scenario, it ''doesn't''. For new readers especially, it leads them to think "Huh...there's a Luigi's Mansion in Double Dash? I don't understand!" and then "Oh...that's confusing." Also, what about the [[Nintendo GameCube (GCN)|battle courses]] [[Nintendo DS (DS)|based around a gaming console]]? Really, I'd like to see more discussion before this takes full effect.
::::::P.S.: If you're wondering, I'm also open to waiting a full week or two before implementing. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 18:37, 12 March 2018 (EDT)
:::::::I just thought of another counterexample! Tick Tock Clock is a race course in ''Mario Kart DS'', despite us covering the area from ''Super Mario 64'' and ''Super Mario 64 DS'', the latter game also being released on the DS! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 18:44, 12 March 2018 (EDT)
::::::::Hey, please stop messaging me about this. I will try to explain it as clearly as possible one more time: The point of the race course retro identifiers is '''not to differentiate from similarly-named articles''', but to match the convention used [[:File:MK8D-GCN-LuigisMansion-icon.png|here]] and [[:File:MK8- DS Tick-Tock Clock.PNG|here]]. This is not how identifiers are usually used, so I understand the confusion. There is an exception in [[MarioWiki:Naming]] for those two console-named battle courses because "Nintendo DS (DS)" is almost '''too dumb''', but never put it past me to change my mind (especially if Nintendo actually brought one back as a retro). --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 19:12, 12 March 2018 (EDT)
:::::::::Thanks, that helps! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 21:32, 12 March 2018 (EDT)
== Technical restriction naming ==
Don't worry, this isn't about the retro identifiers again. (Even though that matter likely ''will'' be revisited in the not-too-distant future.) I'm instead talking about some issues regarding technically restricted names, something I'm surprised no-one has talked about yet. Specifically, I'm asking how the ''[[Super Mario World]]'' castle levels should be technically titled under. Their level names look something like "#<number> <Koopaling>'s Castle". Since both "<Koopaling>'s castle" and "<number> <Koopaling>'s castle" (the latter without the "#") both yield favorable results on Google, is it alright if I move the pages to the latter variant, since that's closer to their correct name? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 15:39, 27 March 2018 (EDT)
:Hi, we will not be revisiting identifiers. Since we already fix everything with DISPLAYTITLE, all that would really change from the reader's perspective is the URL. Pretty minor thing to worry about, I'm fine either way, you can do a proposal on it if you'd like. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 01:41, 28 March 2018 (EDT)
::Thanks! On a side note, should I make a proposal and it passes, should the naming policy be given a short section regarding how to deal with technical restrictions, based on the consensus? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 08:38, 28 March 2018 (EDT)
:::Since this happens relatively rarely and will impact different titles in different ways, I think there should always be some room for handling things on a case-by-case basis, but if you want to propose a rule that says we should try to match the title as closely as possible, ok. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 12:17, 28 March 2018 (EDT)
== Hey uh... ==
Hi there. Hi. You may or may not remember me having an account on SmashWiki. Um, I can't seem to be able to find the "edit" button on the top of pages like I should...but I can find it on talk pages. What's the deal? [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk: Iron Warrior|<span style="color:cyan;">'''the Fearsome Warrior'''</span>]] 01:00, 30 March 2018 (EDT)
Nvm, I got it. But it still doesn't show up on certain pages. [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk: Iron Warrior|<span style="color:cyan;">'''the Fearsome Warrior'''</span>]] 01:02, 30 March 2018 (EDT)
:I’m not Porplemontage, but I do know that you can only edit certain pages once you become autoconfirmed (more details [[MarioWiki:Autoconfirmed users|here]]).  Try again once becoming autoconfirmed. -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 02:36, 30 March 2018 (EDT)
== SSB proposal ==
Since you were skeptical of change to the ''Super Smash Bros.'' coverage, you might feel inclined to provide imput to [[MarioWiki:Proposals#Smash Bros. Articles: What Stays and What Goes?|this proposal]]. This message is just out of courtesy, and I don't have anything more to suggest. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 18:37, 2 April 2018 (EDT)
== ImageMagick ==
This is nothing new but this is just a log to remember what is broken under {{wp|ImageMagick}}:
<gallery>
DK64-Nintendo Power Pre-Release Logo.jpg|[https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141739]
Wikipedia-logo-en.svg
</gallery>
No need to reply right now. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 17:30, 6 April 2018 (EDT)
:This conversation hasn't been revisited in over a year. I haven't truly forgotten. Anyways, I think on Discord you mentioned something about server upgrades and updating to the latest version ImageMagick or something. Is it possible to do now? --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 13:07, April 14, 2019 (EDT)
::Server upgrade is now scheduled for January 2021. We'll have the latest after that! --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 17:09, April 14, 2019 (EDT)
:::I thought you wanted to upgrade at the end of 2018? I forgot most of the details but is upgrading only ImageMagick possible or is there something the latest version needs only found on the new server hardware or software? --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 20:46, April 14, 2019 (EDT)
::::I said we "may" upgrade at the end of 2018 and that ended up being not the case. It needs the new server to be compatible. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 21:17, April 14, 2019 (EDT)
:::::Bummer. I got excited when I saw that MarioWiki got upgraded [[Special:Version|software-wise]] ([[Special:NewFiles]] is showing something completely different and new graphics for next pages for [[Special:ListFiles/Wildgoosespeeder|users]]). Hope to see [[mw:Extension:TimedMediaHandler|Extension:TimedMediaHandler]] replace [[mw:Extension:OggHandler|Extension:OggHandler]] some time in the future. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 21:52, April 14, 2019 (EDT)
::::::Thanks for that handler upgrade! [[:File:PM3DS Trailer.ogv]] was corrupted before the handler was upgraded. To avoid not affecting the audio/video data streams, I thought maybe a corrupted header or something like that was the cause, and correcting it would fix the issue. Don't know what you did though, but thanks for fixing. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 13:44, April 16, 2019 (EDT)
== Another Proposal Problem ==
Hi, sorry to bother you again, but I'm curious as to your thoughts on [[Talk:Rocky Wrench#Reworking Relations|this proposal]]. Honestly, I think it's a detrimental change, but I'm not sure if I have a fuller picture of it yet. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 16:31, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
== Extension questions ==
Any chance you'll ever install [[mw:Extension:Scribunto|the LUA extension]]? It's secure and Wikipedia uses it. The reason why I ask is currently, formatting complicated tables without redundancy is a futile pursuit because of tables' CSS standard, and this strongly deters future table reformatting. Generating tables in LUA would remove all of the redundancy and allow much greater ease in renovating tables. [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 14:17, 22 April 2018 (EDT)
:This is not currently possible because we can't run PHP pcntl in a web server environment, but since that requirement was removed in MediaWiki 1.29, it may be possible after we upgrade to MediaWiki 1.31 (next LTS version). I do try to keep it pretty conservative with extensions, though. Give me an example of a table you're talking about and the issues that could be fixed? --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 15:37, 22 April 2018 (EDT)
::If you're conservative about extensions, I may not pursue this one further. Coding in LUA ''would'' help with creating DRYer code, but I think I've discovered other ways of getting what I want. [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 21:30, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
Although, now that I think about it, the extension I ''really'' think would improve this wiki is [[mw:Extension:Echo|the Echo extension]]. It adds a full notification system, which allows users to "ping" other users by linking to their username, allowing them to reply in an external discussion without having to notify them on their talk page. This would allow talk page discussions to be rationally confined to one talk page, with users just pinging the other user when they reply, so that following user talk page discussions in the future would be less confusing. But I think this extension falls clearly in the category of "ask your users before implementing", since it would affect the top-UI, and users would additional settings to individually configure if they didn't like the default settings. [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 21:53, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
:<small>Could you (or ''anyone'' else) modify the mediawiki prefix to also have <code>mediawiki</code>? It's really annoying and inconsistent with ''every'' other prefix. [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 21:56, 27 April 2018 (EDT)</small>
::MediaWiki is a namespace, it can't also be an interwiki prefix. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 23:05, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
== Guidance concerning userspace ==
Could you lend your expertise and opinion to [[User talk:Alex95#Re: Userspace|this discussion]]? [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 21:30, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
:So, I don't get creating the user subpages for table stuff and I'm really not a fan of using multiple/repeating templates for tables in the mainspace. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 23:05, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
::I will say re: multiple repeating tables, CSS has fixed most of those problems, so while they did fix some problems, the row templates are completely removable, as soon as I convert the format over. I do think it's worthwhile to have a section header template, because it's bad practice to repeat all of the formatting information of three rows of section heading ''six'' times. [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 23:25, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
:::I think tables like that should just be all wikicode. I think you'll find that's the case with tables across the wiki (except for things like {{tem|media table}} obviously - same format used on many pages and all in one template). --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 23:39, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
::::I just think obvious repeated code of sufficient length should be templates (and to clarify, it would be entirely wikicode, aside from the section headers -- but perhaps it would be better to show you an example of what I mean). My point is simply that in pages like ''Donkey Kong Country'', which are largely finished products, it is much easier to modify a templated section head than six different ones. But you're welcome to respectfully disagree, and I have no problem with reverting it back (but you'll have to give a moment, as some of the conversion is a bit tricky.) [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 23:46, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
:::::Yeah, I'd say revert it back. Even though it removes the amount of code on the article page, it still adds unneeded complexity and sort of obfuscates what's going on if someone unfamiliar wants to get in there and edit the table. No need to reinvent the wheel and change how we do things. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 23:51, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
::::::Okay, I've made the change... mostly.
::::::But I want to demonstrate what I mean when I say "repeated code of sufficient length should be templates" (which may have been misinterpreted in this context, given some of my more dubious templating):
=== Original ===
<pre>{|class="dktable" style="width:99%; text-align:center"
|colspan=7 style="background:saddlebrown"| <span style="color:white; font-size: medium">Levels and Bonus Areas</span>
|-
! colspan="7" style="background:#BB8855" | [[Kongo Jungle]]
|-style="background:burlywood"
! colspan="3" style="width:15%" | # || rowspan="2" style="width:35%" | Level || rowspan="2" style="width:13.5%" | Bonus Areas || rowspan="2" style="width:13.5%" | Type of level || rowspan="2" style="width:23%" | Music theme
|-style="background:burlywood"
! style="width:5%" | SNES !! style="width:5%" | GBC !! style="width:5%" | GBA
<!-- Levels -->
|-
! colspan="7" style="background:#BB8855" | [[Monkey Mines]]
|-style="background:burlywood"
! colspan="3" style="width:15%" | # || rowspan="2" style="width:35%" | Level || rowspan="2" style="width:13.5%" | Bonus Areas || rowspan="2" style="width:13.5%" | Type of level || rowspan="2" style="width:23%" | Music theme
|-style="background:burlywood"
! style="width:5%" | SNES !! style="width:5%" | GBC !! style="width:5%" | GBA
<!-- Levels -->
|-
! colspan="7" style="background:#BB8855" | [[Vine Valley (world)|Vine Valley]]
|-style="background:burlywood"
! colspan="3" style="width:15%" | # || rowspan="2" style="width:35%" | Level || rowspan="2" style="width:13.5%" | Bonus Areas || rowspan="2" style="width:13.5%" | Type of level || rowspan="2" style="width:23%" | Music theme
|-style="background:burlywood"
! style="width:5%" | SNES !! style="width:5%" | GBC !! style="width:5%" | GBA
<!-- Levels -->
|-
! colspan="7" style="background:#BB8855" | [[Gorilla Glacier]]
|-style="background:burlywood"
! colspan="3" style="width:15%" | # || rowspan="2" style="width:35%" | Level || rowspan="2" style="width:13.5%" | Bonus Areas || rowspan="2" style="width:13.5%" | Type of level || rowspan="2" style="width:23%" | Music theme
|-style="background:burlywood"
! style="width:5%" | SNES !! style="width:5%" | GBC !! style="width:5%" | GBA
<!-- Levels -->
|-
! colspan="7" style="background:#BB8855" | [[Kremkroc Industries, Inc.]]
|-style="background:burlywood"
! colspan="3" style="width:15%" | # || rowspan="2" style="width:35%" | Level || rowspan="2" style="width:13.5%" | Bonus Areas || rowspan="2" style="width:13.5%" | Type of level || rowspan="2" style="width:23%" | Music theme
|-style="background:burlywood"
! style="width:5%" | SNES !! style="width:5%" | GBC !! style="width:5%" | GBA
<!-- Levels -->
|-
! colspan="7" style="background:#BB8855" | [[Chimp Caverns]]
|-style="background:burlywood"
! colspan="3" style="width:15%" | # || rowspan="2" style="width:35%" | Level || rowspan="2" style="width:13.5%" | Bonus Areas || rowspan="2" style="width:13.5%" | Type of level || rowspan="2" style="width:23%" | Music theme
|-style="background:burlywood"
! style="width:5%" | SNES !! style="width:5%" | GBC !! style="width:5%" | GBA
<!-- Levels -->
|-
! colspan="7" style="background:#BB8855" | [[Gangplank Galleon]]
|-style="background:burlywood"
! colspan="3" style="width:15%" | # || rowspan="2" style="width:35%" | Level || rowspan="2" style="width:13.5%" | Bonus Areas || rowspan="2" style="width:13.5%" | Type of level || rowspan="2" style="width:23%" | Music theme
|-style="background:burlywood"
! style="width:5%" | SNES !! style="width:5%" | GBC !! style="width:5%" | GBA
<!-- Levels -->
|}</pre>
vs.
=== Templates ===
Inline code:
<pre>{|class="dktable" style="width:99%; text-align:center"
|colspan=7 style="background:saddlebrown"| <span style="color:white; font-size: medium">Levels and Bonus Areas</span>
{{DK levels table section |game=dkc |world=[[Kongo Jungle]]}}
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::::::The section templates actually '''significantly reduces obfuscation'''. Even though it adds ''some'' modification complexity because the code is in an external template, it ''significantly'' saves complexity in actual use, because no one has to worry about accidentally modifying one of the sections incorrectly. It's also a very simple template to use, because all of the parameters are named.
::::::Regarding editing obfuscation, I think the current template code eliminates that: it's currently just pure table code, with one template parameter. If I wanted to support more games, I could minimize adding obfuscation in one of two ways:
::::::#Using a global <code>game</code> switch, which would have the downside of turning all of the <code><nowiki>|</nowiki></code> -> <code><nowiki>{{!}}</nowiki></code>.
::::::#Using subtemplates corresponding to the game name, which would create more pages than strictly necessary.
::::::[[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 10:32, 28 April 2018 (EDT)
== Questions about your bot account ==
I've always been curious about this, but how do you program your bot account to perform changes? I've noticed that most of the changes seem to be simple find-and-replace, and I'm wondering how far you can extend the functionality with the format you're using. [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 11:15, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
:I just use [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/Scripts this]. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 12:29, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
== Yet another proposal issue ==
I'm curious as your thoughts on [[MarioWiki:Proposals#Replace enemy sections with an infobox entry|this proposal]], since it seems to be the only major change The Retro Gamer hasn't really discussed with you. Honestly, I think it's unprofessional and quality-undermining, but I think you might have something to add. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 15:30, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
:EDIT: Looks like a second option I'd prefer better was added. I'd still be open to your view of the discussion. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 15:56, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
== Cannot use my email  ==
I have problems trying to set up my email address, I used the same email address I used with the forums, but it said it cannot be used, I'm unsure if I need to send you an email, PM you on the boards, or say it here for further info on this. [[User:John Denver Fan|John Denver Fan]] ([[User talk:John Denver Fan|talk]]) 21:07, 16 May 2018 (EDT)
:Sure, you can PM it to me. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 21:25, 16 May 2018 (EDT)
== Reception table technical issue ==
Hi, so I tried adding a reception table to the ''[[Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker]]'' page, but for some reason it's cutting off the "References to other games" header just below it, and I can't seem to figure out why from the coding. Would you mind looking at it? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 08:55, 19 May 2018 (EDT)
:Never mind, I realized I forgot the {{tem|br}} template at the end. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 16:56, 20 May 2018 (EDT)
::No, I already fixed it. You had the table floating for no reason. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 16:59, 20 May 2018 (EDT)
:::You know, that unwanted code actually appears in [[MarioWiki:reception and sales|reception and sales]] policy page. Mind removing it? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 18:02, 21 May 2018 (EDT)
== Identifier clarification ==
Hi, I hope you don't mind me asking, but would "basketball course" be considered a suitable identifier? I'm just asking because ''Mario Hoops 3-on-3'' features areas that can't be considered courts, and two such areas ([[Peach's Castle (Mario Hoops 3-on-3)|Peach's Castle]] and [[Rainbow Road (Mario Hoops 3-on-3)|Rainbow Road]]) aren't really being disambiguated from anything else sport-related, so what are your thoughts? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 15:34, 25 May 2018 (EDT)
:It would be "Dribble Race course" --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 16:32, 25 May 2018 (EDT)
== Identifier clarification (second scenario) ==
Hi, what type identifier should be used for gameboards in the ''Mario Party'' series, ''Itadaki Street DS'', and ''Fortune Street''; "board", "gameboard", or "game board"? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 22:09, 30 May 2018 (EDT)
:"board" is good. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 22:20, 30 May 2018 (EDT)
== Naming ==
Hi, would you mind changing {{fake link|Mario Stadium (court)}} to [[Waluigi Pinball (court)]] in bullet point 1B of [[MarioWiki:Naming#Determining the identifier|MarioWiki:Naming § Determining the identifier]]? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 08:26, 10 June 2018 (EDT)
== ''Mario Tennis Aces'' coverage issue ==
The story mode in ''Mario Tennis Aces'' is split into levels, but the levels themselves use two different names: one for the lesser location within the world, and one for the actual name of the level (for example, [[Madame Mirage]] is fought in the Royal Chamber in the mission All Hail the Mirror Queen). Which name should be used? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 23:57, 21 June 2018 (EDT)
:Create the mission articles (e.g. [[All Hail the Mirror Queen]]) - these are not courts. The lesser location names like Royal Chamber are courts, but we surely don't need articles for all those courts in addition to the mission articles. Redirect all the lesser location names to the main court articles (e.g. [[Royal Chamber]] -> [[Mirage Mansion]]). Add a story mode section to those articles where you can mention what the greater area is like in the story mode, the additional courts, and link to the mission articles. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 15:25, 22 June 2018 (EDT)
== Username ==
Toadette the Achiever told me that I cannot use the username [[User:Koops|Koops]]. This user has been [[Special:Contributions:Koops|inactive for years]]. Can I use this username when I change it on August 12 or do I have to pick a different username? [[File:Koops - PMTTYD.png|25px]][[User:Starclimber the NightWing|<span style="font-family:serif;color:#008000">Koops</span>]]''' ('''[[User talk:Starclimber the NightWing|<span style="font-family:serif;color:#008000">message</span>]]''') 19:14, 25 June 2018 (EDT)
:Actually never mind. I read the user rename page and Koops can't be taken. Sorry for asking. [[File:Koops - PMTTYD.png|25px]][[User:Starclimber the NightWing|<span style="font-family:serif;color:#008000">Koops</span>]]''' ('''[[User talk:Starclimber the NightWing|<span style="font-family:serif;color:#008000">message</span>]]''') 19:22, 25 June 2018 (EDT)
== Bot editing ==
Hi, would you mind running the bot to change every and all transclusions of [[:Category:Outer Space Locations]] to [[:Category:Cosmic Locations]], as per [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 51#Move Category:Outer Space Locations to Category:Cosmic Locations, restrict the term "outer space" and other related terms, and add "outer space" to the list of frequently misused terms|this proposal]]? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 21:14, 28 June 2018 (EDT)
==Mario & Sonic Event pages identifiers==
Hello, I've recently made a proposal to change the way that Mario & Sonic event articles are handled, which involves splitting each appearance of the event off onto a separate article. However, there's a bit of disagreement about the identifiers, so Toadette the Achiever suggested that I ask you about it. A lot of the events appear in several games with the same name, which causes a problem with making identifiers when splitting. From what I can piece together from [[MarioWiki:Naming#Determining the Identifier|here]], I think the identifier should be something like (Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games) for events that only appear in one version of the instalment and (Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games (Wii)) for ones that appear in more than one version if a single instalment, however Toadette the Achiever suggested another system which solely uses the console as the identifier, such as (Wii U), but this causes issues for games with more than one instalment on a console. I've probably explained it better in the proposal, so you may want to read through that first. The proposal hasn't quite ended yet, so everyone may still show up and oppose it and this may not be necessary, but it's currently winning 5-0 with two days to go, so I'd be interested in hearing any thoughts that you have on the matter, thanks. :) [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 15:56, 15 July 2018 (EDT)
:I'd go with your method, except don't do nested parenthesis, do (Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games for Wii) when the console is needed. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 17:59, 16 July 2018 (EDT)
::OK, thank you very much. I'll go with that then. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 04:51, 17 July 2018 (EDT)
== Illegal advertisment ==
there is an illegal ad on your website saying that this content requires Java Update 13.6. would you like to update now, and says to install or continue. with an X in the top right corner that is supposed to remove ads like this but instead it acted as if I had clicked the ad https://crrepo.com/extban/117043620/creatives/22419970/a47d8f17080cac9849ba7d2994ffda4e_2106.png this was the ad's image
:URL the ad takes you to and screenshot with timezone, device, and browser are useful info for reporting these. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 17:48, 4 August 2018 (EDT)
== Reduce the minimum number of entries in game-specific categories? ==
Hi, I'm wondering if it's okay to reduce the minimum number of entries in game-specific categories from five to three. The reason I ask is because there are actually many instances where there would be only three or four entries at most: the number of levels in ''[[Donkey Kong (game)|Donkey Kong]]'', the number of levels in ''[[Donkey Kong Jr. (game)|Donkey Kong Jr.]]'', the number of levels in ''[[Donkey Kong 3]]'', the number of minigames in ''[[Mario & Luigi: Dream Team]]'', the number of ATVs in ''[[Mario Kart 8]]'', the number of minigames in ''[[Paper Mario: Color Splash]]''...the list goes on. Plus, it's currently clogging up the [[:Category:Levels|levels]] and [[:Category:Minigames|minigames]] categories, and likely many more. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 19:36, 4 August 2018 (EDT)
:Do a proposal ;) --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 19:42, 4 August 2018 (EDT)
::I'll do that, thanks. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 08:59, 5 August 2018 (EDT)
==Identifier discussion (mostly for characters)==
Yes, I know I've discussed related cases with you countless times before, but this isn't necessarily the same case. This time I'm talking about a more problematic case - one that doesn't seem to be bound by [[MarioWiki:Naming#Determining the identifier|policy]] despite some admins saying it is.
Recently, some admins have been moving character pages with identifiers to the name of the species they identify as (such as [[Jerry (Bob-omb)]]). While that sounds perfectly normal at first glance, the problem is actually more straightforward than you'd probably think it is: Where does it stop? The example I provided is just one of many examples of this trend...not bound by policy!
If you want my thoughts, while I definitely understand why such moves would be taking place, I think it's not necessarily a good idea. I could go on and on about why I think that, but I think my main issue is that not every character is of a species defined by ''Mario'' standards, which makes the cases wildly inconsistent with each other. To back up a bit, in some cases, that kind of identifier works fine, such as the aforementioned [[Jerry]] case; one is unambiguously a Bob-omb, while the other is unambiguously a Magikoopa. In other cases, the cracks begin to show, such as the [[Boomer]] case; one is clearly a Pixl, another is clearly a member of the Brothers Bear (though it has the generic "(bear)" identifier that's likely to cause problems), and another is a boss and therefore has a "(boss)" identifier (though should it have that identifier? Surely he has a bigger role than just a boss...). In yet other cases, that kind of identifier wouldn't seem to work at all, such as the [[Herman]] case; one is clearly a human, but the other appears to be a carnivorous plant of some kind (would it be "plant" or "carnivorous plant"? Even if you were to make a decree about this, I'm not sure if all of the users would agree with it, let alone me.).
Here are a few more examples:
*'''[[Gary]]'''
**''Mario Tennis: Power Tour'' ({{fake link|Gary (human)}}) – I feel rather uneasy about the "human" identifier, and though it's not a bad identifier, it looks kind of silly. That's probably just me, though...
**''Super Paper Mario'' ({{fake link|Gary (Goomba)}}) – I think that in a double-disambiguation scenario, if one page gets the more specific type identifier, the other should too.
*'''[[Lily]]'''
**''Paper Mario'' ({{fake link|Lily (flower)}}) – ····· How would that help anyone? As it is, no one would even guess at first glance that the article is about a character and not a generic water lily.
**''Super Paper Mario'' ({{fake link|Lily (Flip-Flop Folk)}}) – "Flip-Flop Folk" isn't even an official name, so I don't think new readers would immediately understand the identifier.
*'''[[Sonny]]'''
**''Saturday Supercade'' ({{fake link|Sonny (ape? gorilla?)}}) – Even if the matter was settled via discussion or proposal, the reality is that the show treats "ape" and "gorilla" interchangeably, with neither term taking priority over the other.
**''Mario Golf'' ({{fake link|Sonny (human)}}) – Same as both entries for Gary.
What I'm suggesting is that we use game identifiers as an absolute second resort for all cases, and restrict the "species" identifiers (and any related cases) to absolute last resorts, such as with the [[Slim]] case. As always, any questions/comments/suggestions so far? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 00:31, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
:I think you're right, which is why I changed the policy. The admins were doing the right thing, because they were moving pages to what type of thing it is before using the game name, which is what the policy was. But I think the change makes sense, because these are minor characters. I don't think people would say "ah yes, Sonny the human." It makes more sense to me to say "ah yes, Sonny from Mario Golf." Looking forward to the unintended consequences and policy revision. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 03:01, 27 August 2018 (EDT)
::Problem here, though, is I don't want to have to type out something like "Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door" every time I want to link to someone with a five-letter-long name who happens to share a name with someone else, particularly given how confusing that title can be to parse with the colon and dash and capitalization. I think the species identifier should be used for non-humans primarily. "Herman (plant)" makes sense. Furthermore, it's easier to remember "Jerry the Bob-omb" than "Jerry the minor character from ''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door''," and similar cases like that. Title identifiers are honestly just a pain to link to and to search for, particularly that overly-long ones for the RPGs, DKC games, TV series, and SMW2. I think instead of a hard rule, this should be based more off of common sense over what's simpler, easier to type out, and easier to remember. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:42, 27 August 2018 (EDT)
:::Furthermore, with the aforementioned case of "Body Slam," it seems more likely to think "Body Slam as performed by Bombette" than "Body Slam as used within the first ''Paper Mario'' game." [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:15, 29 August 2018 (EDT)
::::I'd like to butt in and say that, while the above scenario that Doc talked about just now ''would'' be logical if [[Body Slam (Paper Mario)|these]] [[Body Slam (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door)|were the]] [[Body Slam (Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story)|only three]] Body Slam moves, there's also a [[Body Slam (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars)|Body Slam]] used by multiple characters, and so that would break a few consistencies as well. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 21:39, 29 August 2018 (EDT)
:::::Exactly. And while "Body Slam (Bombette move)" is great because she appears in one game and uses the move in one game, I think "Body Slam (Bowser move)" is actually worse because it's a move very specific to one game and you don't know that from that identifier. It could imply it's a move used by Bowser in any number of the games he's been in, when it's really about one game specifically. The game title identifier at least keeps it contained to that game. Game titles aren't perfect because they're long, but they do prevent having to deal with some weird cases such as Toadette described. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 22:05, 29 August 2018 (EDT)
::::::But see, attempting to force consistency between identifiers is detrimental for both user and browser experience. While the ''Bowser's Inside Story'' and ''Super Mario RPG'' ones should stay game identifiers, "Paper Mario" would seem to be a pretty generic identifier to a browser who doesn't know the "-series" addendum rule. "Bombette" and "Flurrie" would work better for those cases. We don't need consistency. We need logical and simple identifiers that don't bog everything down. To me, this seems more like one of those "use judgement and don't make overly-restrictive guidelines" things, like where much of the votes are going on the reused artwork proposal. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:38, 29 August 2018 (EDT)
:::::::I agree that in some cases a rule is better and in other cases using judgment is better, but in this case I'd prefer to have the rule and some consistency. If it's case-by-case people are just going to move things back and forth with no policy to point to. Who's to say that Bowser is worse than the game name? It's too subjective. You could vote on it, or ask me, but to the reader it would just appear random (two articles having the game name and two being characters). The reason this discussion got started is because there was an inconsistency. I'd love to stop talking about identifiers, so I want the rule and less ambiguity. And again, I think identifying things that appear in a single game (or series) under the umbrella of that game (or series) makes sense. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 00:31, 30 August 2018 (EDT)
::::::::I still think this causes far more headaches (and carpal tunnel syndrome) than it solves. But that's just me. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:20, 30 August 2018 (EDT)
== Notification plugin ==
I'm just wondering, but have you ever considered giving MarioWiki a newer notification plugin? I think it will be helpful to allow users to ping each other and also give notifications to users that had their edits reverted. I'd have several cases where pinging a user would've been useful. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 21:47, 29 August 2018 (EDT)
:I haven't looked into it too much; maybe at some point. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 22:05, 29 August 2018 (EDT)
== Not autoconfirmed yet after 4 days of activity? ==
I was active 4 days with my account, and i am still not autoconfirmed. Can you explain this? Since you are the founder of this wiki. --[[File:SMW2yoshi.gif]] [[User:FanOfYoshi|Yoshi!]] [[ User talk:FanOfYoshi|Wanna discuss?]] [https://www.mariowiki.com/Special:Contributions/FanOfYoshi My contributions!] 02:29, 30 August 2018 (EDT)
:Ah, according to [[User:GashomyWiki|GashomyWiki]], i must wait the hour i started to edit the first day to be autoconfirmed. --[[File:SMW2yoshi.gif]] [[User:FanOfYoshi|Yoshi!]] [[ User talk:FanOfYoshi|Wanna discuss?]] [https://www.mariowiki.com/Special:Contributions/FanOfYoshi My contributions!] 05:41, 30 August 2018 (EDT)
== Bot work (yet again) ==
Hi, would you mind running the bot to change every instance of <code><nowiki>[[Grinder (obstacle)|Grinder]]</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>[[Skewer (obstacle)|Skewer]]</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>[[Grinder]]</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>[[Skewer]]</nowiki></code>, respectively? (And, of course, could you also have the bot change every instance of <code><nowiki>[[Grinder (obstacle)|</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>[[Skewer (obstacle)</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>[[Grinder|</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>[[Skewer|</nowiki></code>, respectively?) Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 22:47, 31 August 2018 (EDT)
:Thanks so much for doing that! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 23:40, 31 August 2018 (EDT)
::Also, would you mind getting the bot to change <code><nowiki>[[Cart]]</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>[[Mine Cart]]</nowiki></code> (and <code><nowiki>[[Cart|]]</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>[[Mine Cart|]]</nowiki></code>)? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 14:45, 3 September 2018 (EDT)
== About the Smash Wiki, Mario Wiki and Mario boards technical difficulties ==
About twenty minutes ago when I tried to come on those Wikis and the Mario Boards, it was out. Why was it knocked out? {{User:John Denver Fan/sig}}  17:55, 5 September 2018 (EDT)
== Another bot request ==
Please change all links to [[Club Nintendo (magazine)|Club Nintendo]] to instead lead to [[Club Nintendo (magazine)]]. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]])</span> 01:19, 16 September 2018 (EDT)
:And would you also mind changing the links to [[WarioWare, Inc.]] to [[WarioWare, Inc.]]? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 19:49, 18 September 2018 (EDT)
== File deletion ==
[[::File:Bloopers4-MPT.gif|This file]] is just one of the [[:File:Bloopers1-MPT.gif|many]], [[:File:Bloopers2-MPT.gif|many]], [[:File:Bloopers3-MPT.gif|many]], [[:File:Bloopers5-MPT.gif|many]], [[:File:Bloopers6-MPT.gif|many]], [[:File:Bloopers7-MPT.gif|MANY]] files of this category, so was there a specific reason as to why you deleted it? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 16:32, 21 September 2018 (EDT)
:Unused in the mainspace. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 16:51, 21 September 2018 (EDT)
== Building World ==
Since there doesn't seem to be any other "Building Worlds," would it not be far more efficient to just use the system name as an identifier, instead of appending the lengthy shared title to them? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:20, 26 September 2018 (EDT)
:Including the game is at least more descriptive. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 15:26, 26 September 2018 (EDT)
::And with that, we're back to the point of "Ghost (Donkey Kong 64 Kremling enemy)." It's just.....''too'' descriptive to be an efficient identifier. (Also, ah, I apologize for unintentionally exacerbating the Peachette meme through writing the page, saw the tweet....) [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:29, 26 September 2018 (EDT)
== Inconsistency? ==
Hi, would you mind explaining why you moved [[Building World (Mario's Early Years! Fun with Letters for Super Nintendo Entertaiment System)|Building World (''Mario's Early Years! Fun with Letters'' for Super Nintendo Entertaiment System)]] to [[Building World (Mario's Early Years! Fun with Letters for SNES)|Building World (''Mario's Early Years! Fun with Letters'' for SNES)]]? Not that I necessarily disagree with your action (in fact, I understand trying to make the title more concise), but many ''Mario & Sonic'' event articles requiring game ''and'' system identifiers use the full name for the system [[Beach Volleyball (Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games for Nintendo 3DS)|Beach Volleyball (''Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games'' for Nintendo 3DS)]] rather than an abbreviation. Just saying. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 15:22, 26 September 2018 (EDT)
:Well, why did you use PC instead of personal computer? --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 15:26, 26 September 2018 (EDT)
::I guess maybe because "PC" isn't something released by Nintendo, but if you insist, what should I use instead? Maybe "MS-DOS", since it's a personal computer itself? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 15:38, 26 September 2018 (EDT)
:::I think you can leave them both just as they are. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 15:40, 26 September 2018 (EDT)
::::Okay, I guess. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 15:41, 26 September 2018 (EDT)
:::::Hope everyone is happy. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 15:50, 26 September 2018 (EDT)
::::::Sure. One more thing: should this decision be officially established in the naming policy so as to prevent any further confusion? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 15:51, 26 September 2018 (EDT)
== PorpleBot ==
I see that your bot isn't active as it was formely. How do bots work? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:33, 28 September 2018 (EDT)
:It's only active when I run it to perform a specific task. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 03:25, 28 September 2018 (EDT)
== Image transparency policy ==
According to Doc von Schmeltwick, I unjustifiably reverted unofficial transparency on [[:File:GiantTurnip CTTT.png]]. I read the policy just now and it reads:
<blockquote>
JPG artwork with solid color, patterned, or scenery backgrounds should also not be converted for the sake of replacing them with transparent backgrounds, as this can lead to leftover off-color edge pixels as a result of bad transparency, which are easily visible when viewed on a different color background. Such images should just be uploaded as they are without any modifications to the backgrounds whatsoever.
</blockquote>
Isn't this meant to also apply to nearly every other type of artwork (not just JPG) as per [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 27#Artwork Transparency Issues|this proposal]]? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 02:58, 7 October 2018 (EDT)
:I didn't say it was "unjust," I said the reasons given were the wrong ones. Mister Wu crops .pngs from books to-the-line rather often, and I do it occasionally too, and {{media link|NESOTG Monty Mole.png|know what}} {{media link|Bill Blaster Perfect.png|I'm doing}}. Saying "this has added transparency" as a reason to revert isn't a good one, as it can be done effectively; saying "this has bad transparency," however, is a good reason. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:04, 7 October 2018 (EDT)
:That applies to JPG's, as written. Unofficial transparency from PNG's is fine as long as they don't have off-color edge pixels. The turnip had white fuzzy edges, so the revert was correct. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 16:48, 7 October 2018 (EDT)
== <del>Soarin' Stu</del> ==
<del>Hi, is there any reason why you decided to restore the [[Soarin' Stu]] page? Just curious. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 17:17, 23 October 2018 (EDT)</del>
:I'm more curious why you marked it for deletion. Are conjectural name redirects against policy? Does [[MarioWiki:Redirects]] say that? --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 17:31, 23 October 2018 (EDT)
:If you go to the [[it:Soarin' Stu|Italian page]] and click the English link, it took you nowhere without the redirect. Unless you plan to update every website on the Internet that links to us, redirects are very useful. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 17:44, 23 October 2018 (EDT)
::Yes, conjectural name redirects aren't necessarily ''not'' allowed (I guess this is what you mean by saying that), but [[Wario Punch|there]] ''[[Yoshi Juice|is]]'' [[Needlenose-Plant|overwhelming]] [[Brick Monster|consensus]] [[Stone Head|to]] [[Mega Maw-Ray|delete]] [[Evil Barrier|conjecturally-named]] [[Squeaks the Parrot|redirects]], and I think the barrage of links speaks for itself. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 18:06, 23 October 2018 (EDT)
:::Never mind about the Soarin' Stu page itself, it was [https://twitter.com/SMWikiOfficial/status/1054818140675284993 confirmed official] just now. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 18:09, 23 October 2018 (EDT)
:::Hopefully the 1-year thing I added to [[MarioWiki:Redirects]] at least helps in the cases where page moves are destroying links from external websites. Redirects are cool! --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 18:16, 23 October 2018 (EDT)
== Redirects ==
According to [[MarioWiki:Redirects]]:
<blockquote>
If a mainspace article has existed for over a year and is moved for any reason, and unless a new page is created using the old title, then the old page title should remain as a redirect to the new title and protected. This helps preserve links to the wiki from external websites. Internal links to the article should be updated to the new title, as normal.
</blockquote>
While I get the part about linking from external websites, I don't see why this should be required in every single case (not counting the discussion above). What if the page move turned out to be because the old title happened to be super inaccurate (like [[Stone Head]]) or a bit too silly (like [[Brick Monster]])? What I'm saying is, should I draft a proposal to help everyone better understand what gets protected and what doesn't? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 10:46, 28 October 2018 (EDT)
:I'll get rid of that if you follow [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Redirects&diff=2533529&oldid=2532317 this] and stop tagging redirects for deletion. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 14:40, 28 October 2018 (EDT)
::Okay, I guess. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 14:42, 28 October 2018 (EDT)
== This is just low. ==
A translator of the [[Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia]] has [https://twitter.com/ZackDavisson/status/1054841989466734594 freely admitted] that he lifted names directly from the Wiki for the English translation of the book, like it was nothing. Shouldn't the wiki be getting some sort of compensation for an act of blatant plagiarism? Or is it just not worth fighting Dark Horse over? Because they clearly see nothing wrong with it.<br>
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 12:58, 31 October 2018 (EDT)
:I even went ahead and added it to the [[List of Mario-related controversies|List of ''Mario''-related controversies]] page, since Nintendo Life actually has an article on it. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 13:06, 31 October 2018 (EDT)
::I did <s>a 10-second Google search</s> some research on the subject and it looks like we cannot get any compensation, as the conjectural names were not copyrighted. Even if they were, we'd have to actually sue Dark Horse/Nintendo. Looks like all we can do is steam about the whole thing. Davisson's attitude really burns me up. >:( As the Nintendo Life article said, Dark Horse by name, [https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/zelda_gamepedia_en/3/38/OOT3D_GanonEncounter.png?version=cfb818613d96bc9a89fd56f09eb2472d Dark Horse by nature.]
::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 14:03, 31 October 2018 (EDT)
:::Yeah, you're not alone. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 14:26, 31 October 2018 (EDT)
== Recovering certain lost data ==
Hi, so about a month and a half ago, I was told by Mario jc that [[Talk:Tinga and Inga]] can't be restored by normal means because the database was cleared in mid-April 2012, which I assume is because of the SONIC ROCKS/SMOOOOOKE vandal and sockpuppeteer (yeah, I could see him from the 500 setting on the rename log). Do you happen to have a backup copy of the database before that time period, as there are two things from then that would be great if they were restored: [[Talk:Tinga and Inga]], since a TPP is on said talk page and [[:File:20070905112740834.jpg]], since it's used on the [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Goomba]] page. Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 21:59, 14 November 2018 (EST)
:I don't have it, sorry. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 00:42, 15 November 2018 (EST)
::Okay, thanks very much. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 09:52, 15 November 2018 (EST)
== Recent changes page ==
Hi, I don't know if you have ''any'' control over how the "recent changes" page works or if it can't be changed beyond MediaWiki's default rules, but it it's the former, I was wondering if a checkbox for not showing deletion log items could be implemented? They really pile up when lots of file moves and replacements occur (which has been happening recently). [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:28, 4 December 2018 (EST)
:The best thing you could do is enable "Group changes by page in recent changes and watchlist" in your preferences (Recent changes section) and all the log items will be collapsed. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 19:48, 4 December 2018 (EST)
::Thank you, I'll try to keep that in mind :) [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:53, 4 December 2018 (EST)
== Media Length ==
I'm curious, does the new length restriction apply to completely unused music tracks that are less likely to have had copyrights filed for them? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:28, 7 December 2018 (EST)
:Yeah --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 21:24, 8 December 2018 (EST)
== Levelbox ==
Hi, would you mind running the bot to change every instance of <code>{{level</code> to <code>{{levelbox</code>? The template was moved a while ago, so I'm surprised that the transclusions still haven't been completely cleaned up yet. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 08:19, 11 December 2018 (EST)
== Yet another bot request ==
*<code><nowiki>[[Super Mario (series)|''Super Mario'' series]]</nowiki></code> --> <code><nowiki>''[[Super Mario (series)|Super Mario]]'' series</nowiki></code>
*<code><nowiki>[[Mario Party (series)|''Mario Party'' series]]</nowiki></code> --> <code><nowiki>''[[Mario Party (series)|Mario Party]]'' series</nowiki></code>
*<code><nowiki>[[Mario Kart (series)|''Mario Kart'' series]]</nowiki></code> --> <code><nowiki>''[[Mario Kart (series)|Mario Kart]]'' series</nowiki></code>
*<code><nowiki>[[Super Smash Bros. (series)|''Super Smash Bros.'' series]]</nowiki></code> --> <code><nowiki>''[[Super Smash Bros. (series)|Super Smash Bros.]]'' series</nowiki></code>
<span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]])</span> 03:33, 12 December 2018 (EST)
== Bot work (for the infinitieth time) ==
Hi, would you mind running the bot to change every instance of <code><nowiki>[[Volcanic Debris]]</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>[[Volcanic debris]]</nowiki></code>? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 00:41, 18 December 2018 (EST)
== Volcanic debris ==
Don't mean to bug you, but I am honestly curious, what was actually changed in [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Third_Course_(Coin_Challenge_Pack_B)&curid=267188&diff=2565883&oldid=2565882 this] edit, and how did it save three units of memory? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:20, 18 December 2018 (EST)
:There was an invisible formatting character between the s and ]. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 16:04, 18 December 2018 (EST)
== Warning downgrade ==
This is something I've been considering for over a year now. There are two archived [[MarioWiki:Appeals|appeals]] I've seen where the warning is instead downgraded into something lower, even though it says that they were "overturned". My thought is, instead of misleading users, why not use a special outcome like the example I provided down below:
<strong style="color:gold;text-transform:uppercase;font-family:Verdana;font-size:150%; font-weight: inherit;">warning&nbsp;downgraded</strong><br>''The behavior is unacceptable in any circumstance, but a Warning was too harsh for the situation, and it has instead been downgraded to a Reminder.''
I just want to know if you approve of this. Any thoughts so far? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 10:18, 24 December 2018 (EST)
==Main page template==
Hello, I am planning to make a proposal on adding a Main page ''New Pages'' template. The template wold be called ''New Pages'' (The template is listed below)
<nowiki><noinclude>[[Category:Main Page templates]]</noinclude></nowiki>
{{news-image|Safe Buster Console.jpg|200px}}
*'''''[[Safe Buster]]''''' ''(pictured)'' is a dual-screen [[Game & Watch]] game that was originally released on January 6, 1988. It is featured as an unlockable [[minigame]] in ''[[Game & Watch Gallery 4]]''. In the game, a character named the Wily Bomber is dropping bombs onto a safe in a bank, and the player as the bank guard must catch them in a container. '''[[Safe Buster|Read more...]]
*'''''[[Bomb Sweeper]]''''' is a dual-screen [[Game & Watch]] game that was originally released on June 15, 1987, and is featured as an unlockable [[minigame]] in ''[[Game & Watch Gallery 4]]''. In the game, a policeman and a character named John Solver attempt to stop a character named Dynamite Jack, who plants bombs underground town. '''[[Bomb Sweeper|Read more...]]'''
*The '''[[Sundream Stone]]''' is a sentient stone tablet that is set to appear in ''[[Yoshi's Crafted World]]''. The Sundream Stone contains five gems that are yellow, green, magenta, orange and blue which surround a sentient stone resembling a sun. '''[[Sundream Stone|Read more...]]'''
*'''[[100m Freestyle]]''' is an [[Aquatics]] [[Event]] that appears in the [[Nintendo DS]] version of ''[[Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (Nintendo DS)|Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games]]''. The aim of the event is to swim the 100 metres in the fastest time, with the event taking place in the National Aquatics Center. Both the starting world and Olympic records for this event are 47.84. '''[[100m Freestyle|Read more...]]
This template would be a auto-comfimed only regularly updated template like the {{tem|News}} template where, whenever a new page is published, a brief summery with a link to the article will be added as the top bullet, as shown above. The rules of this template would be the following:
*When a new page is published, a brief 1-3 sentence paragraph summarizing the start of the page, preferably took directly from the start of the page. The page's main image will be pictured in a maximum 200px image.
*If the latest page does not have an image at the time of release, then the main image of the newest page with an image will be used instead.
*If an article is deemed too short or is badly written, then the article can be skipped.
*The template has four bullets, and whenever a new page is published the article is mention on the first bullet on the top of the template, with the oldest page's bullet point being removed.
*Every paragraph should end with the code: <nowiki>'''[[pagename|Read more...]]'''</nowiki>.
*The page's name should be linked and bolded.
That is all of the template! As for placement, I would suggest that it should be located under the DidYouKnow template. Do you approve of this, and what do you think of its so far? {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 18:52, 9 January 2019 (EST)
:Don't have a lot of room there, so it could only feature one article at a time with image (two if no image). I actually would like to put something in that space because on wider monitors a big blank spot is created under DYK. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 01:34, 10 January 2019 (EST)
:As that is the case, I would prefer to have two bullets with no image, although I will add an option for one bullet with an image in the proposal.  Would I be allowed to make and start the proposal? (Model A and B are listed below)
Model A:
{{news-image|Safe Buster Console.jpg|100px}}
'''''[[Safe Buster]]''''' ''(pictured)'' is a dual-screen [[Game & Watch]] game that was originally released on January 6, 1988. It is featured as an unlockable [[minigame]] in ''[[Game & Watch Gallery 4]]''. In the game, a character named the Wily Bomber is dropping bombs onto a safe in a bank, and the player as the bank guard must catch them in a container. '''[[Safe Buster|Read more...]]
Model B:
*'''''[[Safe Buster]]''''' ''(pictured)'' is a dual-screen [[Game & Watch]] game that was originally released on January 6, 1988. It is featured as an unlockable [[minigame]] in ''[[Game & Watch Gallery 4]]''. In the game, a character named the Wily Bomber is dropping bombs onto a safe in a bank, and the player as the bank guard must catch them in a container. '''[[Safe Buster|Read more...]]
*'''''[[Bomb Sweeper]]''''' is a dual-screen [[Game & Watch]] game that was originally released on June 15, 1987, and is featured as an unlockable [[minigame]] in ''[[Game & Watch Gallery 4]]''. In the game, a policeman and a character named John Solver attempt to stop a character named Dynamite Jack, who plants bombs underground town. '''[[Bomb Sweeper|Read more...]]'''
Thanks for the reply! {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 6:30, 10 January 2019 (EST)
:Sure. For the single option, you wouldn't need a bullet (it'd be analogous to the FA). --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 06:36, 10 January 2019 (EST)
== Bot work (for the nth time) ==
Hi, would you mind running the bot to change every instance of <code><nowiki>[[Category:Wallpaper]]</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>[[Category:Wallpapers]]</nowiki></code>? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 00:17, 14 January 2019 (EST)
:[[Category_talk:Wallpapers|I already said the bot work isn't needed]], at least as far as the wallpaper template is concerned. Anywhere else should be a simple fix. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 00:18, 14 January 2019 (EST)
::Well, never mind then! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 00:22, 14 January 2019 (EST)
Ok, for real this time. Would you mind running the bot to change every instance of <code><nowiki>[[Captain Goomba (Minion Quest: The Search for Bowser)|</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>[[Captain Shy Guy (Minion Quest: The Search for Bowser)|</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>[[Captain Goomba (Mario & Luigi series)|</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>[[Captain Shy Guy (Mario & Luigi series)|</nowiki></code>, respectively? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 18:13, 16 January 2019 (EST)
== Auto-undo bots ==
I know that Wikipedia has bots that automatically undo certain edits, but may be unreliable if give too wide parameters. I was wondering if the wiki could use something like that for persistent spammers with specific calling cards. For instance, one bizarre repeat offender repeatedly makes reference to some probably-fictional individual named "[removed]" and I was wondering if specific edit contents could be used as a way of having a bot automatically undo an edit. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:30, 23 January 2019 (EST)
:The phrase can be blocked from page saves. Basically up to the admins if they want me to implement it. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 00:36, 24 January 2019 (EST)
== Revisiting identifiers ==
As I brought up [[Talk:Apprentice|here]], what should be the ultimate determination of what an identifier should be should not be consistency across the wiki, but the most distinct viable traits that can be distinguished from each other on a search bar scroll result list. Looking back to the [[Jerry]] example, it's far more likely people will remember Luigi's partner for being a Bob-omb than for being in the specific game with a crapton of named NPCs he was from. Therefore, I move that the "game identifier first"-type rule be nixed, please consider. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:59, 24 January 2019 (EST)
:I'd still advise against this myself and stand by [[#Identifier discussion (mostly for characters)|the reasons I presented to you above]]. And if you're wondering, [[Jerry (Bob-omb)]] still redirects to [[Jerry (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door)]], so that should solve the problem of actually searching for the pages. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 07:52, 24 January 2019 (EST)
::Also, [[Talk:Apprentice|the discussion]] that Doc brought up, I believe, already qualifies for the exception we previously applied to [[Slim (Flopside)]] and [[Slim (Pixl)]]. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 07:56, 24 January 2019 (EST)
:::Redirects don't show up in the search bar drop-down list, though. Which was a main part of my point. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:08, 24 January 2019 (EST)
::::Uh...so what? That doesn't stop anyone from finding the correct page through the search function. I searched "jerry bob-omb" and the search function still gave me [[Jerry (Bob-omb)|the existing redirect]]. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 10:54, 27 January 2019 (EST)
== Edit summaries ==
Recently, I've found that the length for edit summaries has been drastically shortened, to the point that I needed to make superfluous edits to fully apologize for accidentally hitting the "save changes" button instead of the "show preview" button. Why is that? I asked Mario jc, and he said that you'd likely know. (Also, for the record, I'm not liking the bold blue text on the current page for the templates, as it could be confusing in cases where there already is bolding....but that's just me.) [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:06, 26 January 2019 (EST)
:Guess it's the new default. Don't know of a setting to change it. What bold blue text? --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 22:26, 26 January 2019 (EST)
::Go to any page with a nav template on it, and look at the link to said page on the template. Instead of being black, it's the same blue as the rest. Recent mediawiki update? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:38, 26 January 2019 (EST)
== Hide redirects option on all pages special page  ==
Can you the hide redirects option back to that page please? Thank You. [[User:Wariopig|Wariopig]] ([[User talk:Wariopig|talk]]) 19:28, 3 February 2019 (EST) Wariopig
:Unfortunately it's been removed from miser mode, which we've always used to keep the site more stable. Kind of a bad update in terms of features! --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 01:46, 4 February 2019 (EST)
== Deleting by Overwriting ==
Hey Porplemontage! I saw {{User|Paper Jorge}} deleting pages by overwriting while he's not ranked, and i considered asking. How do you do that? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 04:30, 4 February 2019 (EST)
:You can move pages over redirects if the only history is of the redirect. Otherwise, the wiki will say you can't do that. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 11:15, 4 February 2019 (EST)
== Recent Changes problem ==
Hi, just letting you know that your changes to the [[Special:RecentChanges|recent changes]] page accidentally caused the "auto-refresh" checkbox to be stuck behind the "To be deleted" link. Just thought I'd let you know. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 09:14, 7 February 2019 (EST)
:Do a hard refresh --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 09:15, 7 February 2019 (EST)
== Update regarding NavTemplates ==
You probably know this, but whatever update just happened seems to have caused all text on navigation templates to be shoved to the right in an odd-looking manner, any idea how this can be fixed? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:06, 10 February 2019 (EST)
:Do a hard refresh --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 03:08, 10 February 2019 (EST)
::Weird, I had hit crtl+f5 before I told you that, and nothing happened then... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:32, 10 February 2019 (EST)
== Self-category ==
Why would [[:Category:Super Mario Wiki|this category]] categorize itself? No hard feelings, but I think it's just a counter-intuitive way of emptying [[Special:UncategorizedCategories]]. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 18:19, 11 February 2019 (EST)
== Internal filename template question ==
Hey, i was wondering. I made a proposal on [[MarioWiki:Naming]] on how to handle internal filenames, and {{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} came up with template ideas. Would you approve the use of a template when an article is named after its internal filename? I can show you both of them he came up with. He said that we'd add it only if either the staff approves it, or if my proposal passes. Which one should we use?
<div class="notice-template" style="text-align:justify;background:#F5F5F5;margin:.5em 2%;padding:0 1em;border:1px solid black;color:black">
The title of this {{#if: {{{section|}}}|section|article}} is official, but it comes from an '''internal file name'''. As such, it potentially reflects an early point in development that may not be the intended name by the final product, may be a developer nickname not intended to be officially used, and may not be in English. If an official name from an English source is found, the {{#if: {{{section|}}}|section|article}} should be {{#if: {{{section|}}}|changed|moved}} to its appropriate title.
</div><nowiki><includeonly>[[Category:Articles with titles from internal file names]]</includeonly></nowiki>
Or should it be setted up like this:
<div class="notice-template" style="text-align:justify;background:#F5F5F5;margin:.5em 2%;padding:0 1em;border:1px solid black;color:black">
The title of this {{#if: {{{section|}}}|section|article}} is official, but it comes from a '''pre-release source''' or '''internal data'''. As such, it potentially reflects an early point in development or developer nickname that may not be the intended name by the final product, and may not be in English. If an official name from a post-release acceptable English source is found, the {{#if: {{{section|}}}|section|article}} should be {{#if: {{{section|}}}|changed|moved}} to its appropriate title.
</div><nowiki><includeonly>[[Category:Articles with titles from pre-release sources]]</includeonly></nowiki>
Thanks for the soon response, but quick, as you can only edit or cancel proposals 6 days after initiating them! ;) --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:44, 22 February 2019 (EST)
:If the proposal passes, I would say just do '''internal data'''. Pre-release source is very vague - that would include any press before the game comes out, unless you intend to include that with this. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 09:11, 22 February 2019 (EST)
::Though, {{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} told me no matter if the staff approved it or the proposal passed. Can i cancel the proposal and apply it immediately? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 09:13, 22 February 2019 (EST)
:::I like '''development source''' now. I don't think you should cancel the proposal. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 09:35, 22 February 2019 (EST)
::::That was the point with the pre-release thing (like if "Pucka Jr." was the only name given to [[Fangfish]] by the time of release despite no longer being applicable role-wise), though those situations would probably be fairly rare. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:25, 22 February 2019 (EST)
== Possible size issue ==
Don't know if you're still working on css or not, but thought I'd let you know I think [[Special:Diff/2618539|this edit]] caused some things to be awkwardly adjusted. I fixed a [[Special:Diff/2619344|image size]] on a copyright template, but Results May Vary also noticed infoboxes like on [[Lakeside Limbo]] are rather squished. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 23:45, March 12, 2019 (EDT)
:Oh thanks I meant to undo that --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 23:51, March 12, 2019 (EDT)
== Fruits ==
What do you think of this scenario? "Fruit" is the most recent name for [[Berry]], but a [[Fruit]] article already exists. I already contacted Mario jc about this rather unusual scenario, but he didn't seem to know what to do to fix it. What should I do? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 23:21, March 13, 2019 (EDT)
:I would get rid of the Fruit article or move Berry to Yoshi Fruit. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 17:11, March 14, 2019 (EDT)
== Joe ==
Hi, I'm trying to enforce [[Talk:Joe#Rename to Joe|a proposal]] by fixing links on navtemplates, but I'm technically prevented from doing so due to something in the spam blacklist ("SK8"). That being said, would you mind running the bot to change every instance of "<code><nowiki>[[Manager Joe]]</nowiki></code>" to "<code><nowiki>[[Joe]]</nowiki></code>" and "<code><nowiki>[[Manager Joe|</nowiki></code>" to "<code><nowiki>[[Joe|</nowiki></code>"? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 23:08, March 18, 2019 (EDT)
:What page are you being prevented from saving? --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 23:45, March 18, 2019 (EDT)
::The navigation templates ([[Template:WWIMM]], [[Template:WarioWare: Twisted!]], [[Template:WarioWare: Touched!]], [[Template:WWSM]], [[Template:Game & Wario]], [[Template:WWG]]). {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 23:53, March 18, 2019 (EDT)
:::Thanks for fixing that! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 09:47, March 19, 2019 (EDT)
== Template:SMBS ==
Hi, would you mind running the bot to change every instance of <code><nowiki>{{SMB Special}}</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>{{SMBS}}</nowiki></code>? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 18:32, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
== Appropriate usage of the "(boss)" identifier ==
Hi, I have another question regarding identifiers. This time, however, it may be a tad more difficult: When would the "(boss)" identifier be appropriate to use? The reason I ask this is because characters such as [[Boomer (boss)|Boomer]] from ''Super Mario RPG'' (stemming off of [[#Identifier discussion (mostly for characters)|this discussion]]) and [[Phantom (boss)|Phantom]] from ''Mario + Rabbids'' appear to have bigger roles than ''just'' their boss fight (the latter even sings [[Phantom of the Bwahpera|a song]] for Mario and company). {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 12:43, April 9, 2019 (EDT)
:Imagine I said this: The boss identifier is used when a character has a boss battle in a game and doesn't appear outside that game. Would that break a lot of things? --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 13:26, April 9, 2019 (EDT)
::I'm not entirely sure, actually. I'm a bit more concerned about the Boomer case, since it overlaps with [[#Identifier discussion (mostly for characters)|this discussion]] and what you said about using species identifiers (there are two other characters named Boomer whose article titles violate the current naming policy, though the page whose subject is the other Boomer character seems to get in the way of this). {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 13:53, April 9, 2019 (EDT)
:::Based on the previous discussion (and [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Naming&diff=2493125&oldid=2445836 policy change]) you can move all the Boomers to game identifiers since they are characters. Do you like that? --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 14:18, April 9, 2019 (EDT)
::::Yep. I guess we can deal with the Phantom case once another character known as "Phantom" makes their debut. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 15:44, April 9, 2019 (EDT)
== Thank you ==
Thank you for making this awsome wiki! Porplemontage (I hope I got that right)  [[User:HEROMARIO|&#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0]] ([[User talk:HEROMARIO|talk]]) 20:36, April 11, 2019 (EDT)
:It's spelled "Porplemont'''a'''ge". {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 20:37, April 11, 2019 (EDT)
::Anyway thanks! [[User:HEROMARIO|&#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0]] ([[User talk:HEROMARIO|talk]]) 20:41, April 11, 2019 (EDT)
==Porplebot==
It was agreed upon to manually remove the notes variable so notes-exclusive information could be moved and thus not lost. Information could have been lost due to the bot doing this, such as with [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Toxic_Tower_(Donkey_Kong_Land_2)&diff=2641430&oldid=2614613 Toxic Tower]. Perhaps you could revert the bot's edits? {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 16:23, April 15, 2019 (EDT)
:Just go [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?limit=500&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Porplemontage&namespace=0&tagfilter=&start=2019-04-15&end=2019-04-15 here] and check all the text replacement diffs that '''aren't''' (-8) to add back any info. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 16:28, April 15, 2019 (EDT)
== File:PersonaSymbol.svg ==
Thank you for fixing the error for me. I have no idea what was going on with it. {{User:LuigiMaster123/sig}} 00:32, April 17, 2019 (EDT)
::Okay, I just uploaded the gray version of the image, but it got messed up again. I clicked on the image and it looks normal when I go [https://www.mariowiki.com/images/b/b1/PersonaSymbol.svg here]. {{User:LuigiMaster123/sig}} 02:35, April 19, 2019 (EDT)
== Delete template ==
Why change from black to white? Maybe I'm just used to how it looked, but a white box with a red outline just seems kinda bland now. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:13, April 17, 2019 (EDT)
:Do CTRL+F5 it's the same {{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 19:14, April 17, 2019 (EDT)
::... Oh. Weird. I don't know why it kept the change like that. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:16, April 17, 2019 (EDT)
==Rewrite template==
Considering that {{tem|Delete-version}} is fully protected should {{tem|Rewrite}} also be protected? Thanks. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 16:29, April 18, 2019 (EDT)
== Text replacement request ==
Hey!  I just moved Fire Tickle and Thunder Tickle to the names given in the 3DS remake, [[Dash (Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga)]] and [[Tickle]].  You mind using [[Special:ReplaceText]] to fix the numerous links left?  Thanks! -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 15:28, April 20, 2019 (EDT)
:Thorn (''Wario Land'' series) was moved to [[Spike (Wario Land series)|Spike (''Wario Land'' series)]] so may you use the bot to fix the links and text? Thanks! {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 14:03, April 21, 2019 (EDT)
::Before making such a request, please update [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&target=Thorn+%28Wario+Land+series%29&namespace=10 the nav templates] by hand since they must be re-alphabetized. After doing that and waiting for [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&target=Thorn+%28Wario+Land+series%29&namespace= the links] to update, you may find that the number of additional replacements needed is relatively small and a bot task isn't required. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 23:21, April 21, 2019 (EDT)
== Yo ==
What's up Steve --[[User:Yoshario|Yoshario]] ([[User talk:Yoshario|talk]]) 23:21, April 30, 2019 (EDT)
:Welcome back, don't forget to update your signature to <code><nowiki>{{user|Yoshario}}</nowiki></code> in your preferences --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 00:15, May 1, 2019 (EDT)
== More text replacement ==
Hi, would you mind running the text replacement tool to change every instance of a link of [[Princess Peach's Castle]] to [[Peach's Castle]]? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 14:44, May 6, 2019 (EDT)
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