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Should we add screenshots yet? We have footage from the Direct, but I'm unsure that we should post screenshots to the page. [[User:Green Mario|Green Mario]] ([[User talk:Green Mario|talk]]) 17:46, 13 February 2019 (EST) | Should we add screenshots yet? We have footage from the Direct, but I'm unsure that we should post screenshots to the page. [[User:Green Mario|Green Mario]] ([[User talk:Green Mario|talk]]) 17:46, 13 February 2019 (EST) | ||
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== "Circus" Theme == | == "Circus" Theme == | ||
Hello, and what a Moe-rvelous Mario Moe-ker 2 announcement we had today! I noticed on the wiki page that one of the confirmed themes is listed as being "Circus", presumably from the scene with the Banzai | Hello, and what a Moe-rvelous ''Mario Moe-ker 2'' announcement we had today! I noticed on the wiki page that one of the confirmed themes is listed as being "Circus", presumably from the scene with the [[Banzai Bill]]s at 1:10 (in the official Nintendo video). I believe that this is a little bit Moe-sleading. The correct theme title, I think, would be "Night", for Moe-ltiple reasons. Reason one is that the "circus" theme is not a recurring theme in many Mario games (really only ''[[Super Mario 3D World]]''). However, night is a recurring theme which was not included in the original ''[[Super Mario Maker]]''. I believe that the circus aesthetic was simply applied to the "Night" theme, as the two often coexisted in levels such as [[Spiky Spike Bridge]], [[Footlight Lane]], and, obviously, [[World Bowser]] itself. Reason two is that at 1:14 in the same video, the "Night" theme is shown in the ''[[New Super Mario Bros. U]]'' style, with no circus in sight. Reason three, which may tie in to reason two, is that at 0:43 in the video, the winter theme is shown in the ''New Super Mario Bros. U'' style as well... but strangely it takes place during the daytime, per ''[[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]]''. Why would they change it... unless they wanted to differentiate the "Night" theme from the winter theme? After all, the constellations at 1:14 are taken right from the sky of [[Frosted Glacier|World 4]] of NSMBU. | ||
Obviously, the trailer hasn't even been out a day, and so Moe-ch is still left in conjecture. None of this is proven. Plus, there are a few things which might make me reconsider. The platforms and conveyor belt at 1:10 ''do'' look awfully "circus-y", and there were some Moe outwardly "night-y" themes in Super Mario 3D World, like in Puffprod Peaks or Super Galaxy. Maybe this is a new "Sky" theme outside of the | Obviously, the trailer hasn't even been out a day, and so Moe-ch is still left in conjecture. None of this is proven. Plus, there are a few things which might make me reconsider. The platforms and conveyor belt at 1:10 ''do'' look awfully "circus-y", and there were some Moe outwardly "night-y" themes in ''Super Mario 3D World'', like in [[Puffprod Peaks]] or [[Super Galaxy]]. Maybe this is a new "Sky" theme outside of the [[airship]]s, or "Fog", or maybe even each game style will have one unique theme! There's no way of knowing! But as of now, a better guess seems to be the "Night" theme. Thus, I have made that edit. Anyone who wishes to dispute may, but these are my reasons. Thanks for reading,'''MOSES THE MOE-EYE''' --[[User:Moe-Eye|Moe-Eye]] ([[User talk:Moe-Eye|talk]]) 21:13, 14 February 2019 (EST) | ||
:I would actually say the theme falls under the Airship category. These stages were always in the sky, after all, and additionally, if one analyzes the footage closely, there's a slight bob to the camera completely unrelated to Mario's movement. This camera behavior is an infamous behavior for the Airship theme in the original game, so it seems much more likely to fall under that category. --[[User:MissingNumbers|MissingNumbers]] ([[User talk:MissingNumbers|talk]]) 13:54, 6 March 2019 (EST) | :I would actually say the theme falls under the Airship category. These stages were always in the sky, after all, and additionally, if one analyzes the footage closely, there's a slight bob to the camera completely unrelated to Mario's movement. This camera behavior is an infamous behavior for the Airship theme in the original game, so it seems much more likely to fall under that category. --[[User:MissingNumbers|MissingNumbers]] ([[User talk:MissingNumbers|talk]]) 13:54, 6 March 2019 (EST) | ||
::You might be right, as a Moe-tter of fact. Although it would seem quite odd. The theme in question looks quite like a circus, or maybe a train level, and that would be an odd choice to approximate for the airship theme. After all, most of the other themes would carry over quite well between game styles - underground to underground, jungle to jungle, desert to desert, and so on... but wouldn't it be a little strange to have it so that the airship theme looked like an airship in all of the first four styles, and then, randomly, like a strange circus loco-Moe-tive in the last? Making an airship shape in the other styles and then translating it to Super Mario 3D World style would throw everything off! Why not use a tank level theme or maybe even refurbish the airship theme from Super Mario 3D Land? Anyway, the airship theme is still there, as per the Super Mario Bros.-style clip in the trailer, and there Moe-st certainly is a night theme, as per my above paragraph, so the point seems to be moot for now. I guess we'll just have to wait until the game comes out! But I appreciate the feedback - I see your point, and it very well might be the case. Thanks for the critique - and, yeah, good eye with the camera! Until June, '''MOSES THE MOE-EYE''' --[[User:Moe-Eye|Moe-Eye]] ([[User talk:Moe-Eye|talk]]) 21:51, April 20, 2019 (EDT) | ::You might be right, as a Moe-tter of fact. Although it would seem quite odd. The theme in question looks quite like a circus, or maybe a train level, and that would be an odd choice to approximate for the airship theme. After all, most of the other themes would carry over quite well between game styles - underground to underground, jungle to jungle, desert to desert, and so on... but wouldn't it be a little strange to have it so that the airship theme looked like an airship in all of the first four styles, and then, randomly, like a strange circus loco-Moe-tive in the last? Making an airship shape in the other styles and then translating it to ''Super Mario 3D World'' style would throw everything off! Why not use a tank level theme or maybe even refurbish the airship theme from ''[[Super Mario 3D Land]]''? Anyway, the airship theme is still there, as per the ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]''-style clip in the trailer, and there Moe-st certainly is a night theme, as per my above paragraph, so the point seems to be moot for now. I guess we'll just have to wait until the game comes out! But I appreciate the feedback - I see your point, and it very well might be the case. Thanks for the critique - and, yeah, good eye with the camera! Until June, '''MOSES THE MOE-EYE''' --[[User:Moe-Eye|Moe-Eye]] ([[User talk:Moe-Eye|talk]]) 21:51, April 20, 2019 (EDT) | ||
:::it is not confirmed if there will be a night theme for all we know there will be a day/night toggle [[User:Wild starfish|Wild starfish]] ([[User talk:Wild starfish|talk]]) 20:06, April 27, 2019 (EDT) | :::it is not confirmed if there will be a night theme for all we know there will be a day/night toggle [[User:Wild starfish|Wild starfish]] ([[User talk:Wild starfish|talk]]) 20:06, April 27, 2019 (EDT) | ||
::::You were right, Wild Starfish! What a prediction! I never would have predicted a smiling Moe-n would change things so Moe-ch! However... don't be Moe-staken. I never stated that there was '''absolutely definitely ''Moe-st indubitably''''' a night theme... just like the Moe-jority, I was speculating. I never said there could be no night toggle. My entire paragraph up there Moe-tally emphasized the ambiguity around everything. I even said "there's no way of knowing"! So, under the extent of my knowledge, I believe it was a reasonable assumption. ... Anyway, the Direct has come, and so Moe-ch has come to (moon)light! This makes my point above seemingly Moe-t! So thanks for the thoughtful responses, and, well... wish me luck waiting for Super Mario Maker 2's release date! I might bust! ...then again, I think I ''am'' a bust. With feet. Almost one Moe-nth away, '''MOSES THE MOE-EYE''' --[[User:Moe-Eye|Moe-Eye]] ([[User talk:Moe-Eye|talk]]) 22:46, May 18, 2019 (EDT) | ::::You were right, Wild Starfish! What a prediction! I never would have predicted [[Moon (Super Mario Maker 2)|a smiling Moe-n]] would change things so Moe-ch! However... don't be Moe-staken. I never stated that there was '''absolutely definitely ''Moe-st indubitably''''' a night theme... just like the Moe-jority, I was speculating. I never said there could be no night toggle. My entire paragraph up there Moe-tally emphasized the ambiguity around everything. I even said "there's no way of knowing"! So, under the extent of my knowledge, I believe it was a reasonable assumption. ... Anyway, the Direct has come, and so Moe-ch has come to (moon)light! This makes my point above seemingly Moe-t! So thanks for the thoughtful responses, and, well... wish me luck waiting for Super Mario Maker 2's release date! I might bust! ...then again, I think I ''am'' a bust. With feet. Almost one Moe-nth away, '''MOSES THE MOE-EYE''' --[[User:Moe-Eye|Moe-Eye]] ([[User talk:Moe-Eye|talk]]) 22:46, May 18, 2019 (EDT) | ||
== Chain-Link Uncertainty == | == Chain-Link Uncertainty == | ||
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:Where is the lift underlined in yellow? {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 20:27, 9 March 2019 (EST) | :Where is the lift underlined in yellow? {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 20:27, 9 March 2019 (EST) | ||
::in the beginning of the trailer at the very left of the top bar before being pushed off by the steep slope moving everything else back {{user| | ::in the beginning of the trailer at the very left of the top bar before being pushed off by the steep slope moving everything else back {{user|Wild starfish}} 18:56, March 11, 2019 (EDT) | ||
:::Ah, right, good catch! {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:00, March 11, 2019 (EDT) | :::Ah, right, good catch! {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:00, March 11, 2019 (EDT) | ||
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night is not confirmed for all we know it could be that levels can take place during day or night | night is not confirmed for all we know it could be that levels can take place during day or night | ||
{{unsigned| | {{unsigned|73.36.84.186}} 18:58, March 11, 2019 (EDT)~~ | ||
:The level they showed takes place at night, but we'll have more information when either they show off more or the game is released. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:54, March 11, 2019 (EDT) | :The level they showed takes place at night, but we'll have more information when either they show off more or the game is released. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:54, March 11, 2019 (EDT) | ||
Night is confirmed as a day/night toggle between themes. {{user|Bus}} 7:19, June 10 2019 (UK Time) | Night is confirmed as a day/night toggle between themes. {{user|Bus}} 7:19, June 10 2019 (UK Time) | ||
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I'm not sure if the current filling in of the chart is a good idea. SMM didn't typically have the same palettes to the originals (though admittedly SMB and SMB3's palettes irl depended on TV specifications), so there's nothing proving so far that the graphics in this game will have the same palettes as in SMM, potentially leaving them inaccurate after launch. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:13, March 31, 2019 (EDT) | I'm not sure if the current filling in of the chart is a good idea. SMM didn't typically have the same palettes to the originals (though admittedly SMB and SMB3's palettes irl depended on TV specifications), so there's nothing proving so far that the graphics in this game will have the same palettes as in SMM, potentially leaving them inaccurate after launch. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:13, March 31, 2019 (EDT) | ||
Should there be a weight column? Like, when weighed on the see-saw, what weights are considered by the game? - [[User:Heurgh|Heurgh]] ([[User talk:Heurgh|talk]]) | |||
== Wings and Parachutes as modifiers == | == Wings and Parachutes as modifiers == | ||
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:The empty spots on the tables mean an object does not appear in a particular gamestyle. Thanks for the inquiry! {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 20:02, June 22, 2019 (EDT) | :The empty spots on the tables mean an object does not appear in a particular gamestyle. Thanks for the inquiry! {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 20:02, June 22, 2019 (EDT) | ||
::Well, for things like Rotating Blocks and such, but not Brick Blocks. Brick Blocks for SMB still need to be added at least, and there ''are'' more. [[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]]) 09:17, June 24, 2019 (EDT) | ::Well, for things like Rotating Blocks and such, but not Brick Blocks. Brick Blocks for SMB still need to be added at least, and there ''are'' more. [[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]]) 09:17, June 24, 2019 (EDT) | ||
== Needs to be edited == | |||
While this article can't be edited, I have a sentence needed to be changed. The sentence that needs to be changed is: | |||
*''Super Mario Maker 2'' is set to be released worldwide on June 28, 2019. | |||
It has set to be changed as: | |||
*''Super Mario Maker 2'' was released worldwide on June 28, 2019. | |||
Do you agree with me? Let me know in this talk page. [[User:Amazing Super Toad Bros.|Amazing Super Toad Bros.]] ([[User talk:Amazing Super Toad Bros.|talk]]) 19:58, June 28, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:It has been changed. Thank you! [[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]]) 10:59, July 1, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Secondary Icons == | |||
Should we add the extra icons in the tables (such as the terrain depending on theme or Enemy Alternate forms)? {{unsigned|Prpro=03}} | |||
:The different terrains at least would be too much to fit in the tables. Though if someone wants to see more of an element, that's what the link to its own page is for. Again please remember to sign your comments so users don't have to check the history page to see who posted. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 09:41, June 29, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Super Mario Bros. 3 night castle based on bowser's castle? == | |||
I saw in some video that the Super Mario Bros. 3 castle theme at night looks like {{world|8|bowser3}} instead of the fortresses like in the day theme. | |||
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== Alleged 3D World reference == | |||
The references section lists 3D World as a reference for the recolour of the Galoombas; however, this seems to be based more on their artwork at the time. | |||
<gallery> | |||
Goomball.jpg|Artwork of a Goomba, from ''Super Mario World'' | |||
SMW Goomba Sprite.gif|''Super Mario World'' sprite | |||
SMM2 Galoomba SMW icon.png|''Super Mario Maker 2'' sprite | |||
</gallery> | |||
I believe the darker colour on their head, as well as their green coloured shoes, originate from the official artwork, which was also the basis of their appearance in 3D World; as such, it is not a reference to 3D World as much as simply a more correct sprite. [[User:Master Clyde Super|Master Clyde Super]] ([[User talk:Master Clyde Super|talk]]) 10:19, July 9, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:It also appears in Super Mario Maker. And also, they're not shoes, they're feet. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 10:21, July 9, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Fictionalized Course Makers in Story Mode == | |||
While it's obvious that the course makers in the story mode (e.g., Amateur Meteorologist, Celebrity MC, and so forth) aren't real people or existing ''Mario'' characters, and were named specifically for this game, there are three of them that strike out to me: A Certain Mage, Father of Name Withheld, and Name Withheld by Request. A Certain Mage's course descriptions always begin with "Kee hee hee!", which is an evident component of [[Kamek]]'s speech pattern; Father of Name Withheld's course descriptions begin and end with "Gwa ha ha!", pointing all fingers at [[Bowser]]; taking this into account, Name Withheld by Request just has to be [[Bowser Jr.]], whom even describes their course, [[Wobbly Seesaw Castle]], as being created from "watching their dad create an evil dungeon." Clearly, Kamek, Bowser, and Bowser Jr. also create courses for the player to play in the story mode. That's not even the problem here. The true dilemma is: Where do I mention said information? Whose article(s) does this pertain to? Does this count as trivia? Someone, help me. [[User:MarioManiac1981|MarioManiac1981]] ([[User talk:MarioManiac1981|talk]]) 13:13, July 11, 2019 | |||
:This is probably best mentioned in the characters' respective pages. So, on Bowser's page, in the SMM2 section, you can add a note about how he appears to be Father of Name Withheld based on their speech pattern. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 15:27, July 11, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::Could Doctor Gizmo possibly be [[Professor Elvin Gadd|Professor E. Gadd]]? [[User:MarioManiac1981|MarioManiac1981]] ([[User talk:MarioManiac1981|talk]]) 21:40, July 13, 2019 (EST) | |||
== Course Uploads and Medals == | |||
*I know that by default, a player can upload up to 32 courses, but does anyone know if acquiring medals can increase a player's upload limit or not? {{User:M&SG/sig}} 08:52, July 12, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:First of all, there aren't medals (at least as they were in the first game), and second, no, I haven't heard of anyone expanding that limit. [[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/JoeRunner|and stuff]]) 20:24, July 14, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::So it's probably safe to assume that the upload limit can't be increased? That sure sounds like a downgrade when compared to the first ''Super Mario Maker''. {{User:M&SG/sig}} 17:07, July 15, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:::Very sadly and unfortunately, it does look like it's safe to assume that. Maybe if we're lucky there'll be a patch, but for now, no. [[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/JoeRunner|and stuff]]) 20:21, July 15, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::::Whelp, I called it. Nintendo has released a patch, so now you can upload 64 courses. It's still capped on that, but they're still planning to expand the limit another time. So, yeah, that's pretty great! [[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/JoeRunner|and stuff]]) 20:13, July 27, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Toads in Story Mode == | |||
I'm kinda confused here. It's clear that the Chief is [[Toadette]], but the other Toads are uncertain; somehow, the Yellow Toad in ''Super Mario Maker 2'' is linked to [[Yellow Toad (Toad Brigade)|this lazy dude]]. Although both Yellow Toads display similar tendencies, is it best to assume that they're one and the same? And what about the other Toads? Are they generic, or are they also associated with the [[Toad Brigade]]? The Taskmaster is also another mystery: he's a Red Toad dressed in a blue vest, which is ''the'' [[Toad]]'s defining trait; should we just assume the Taskmaster is explicitly Toad, or should we reference him in Toad's "Possible appearances" section? If the Taskmaster is clearly unrelated to Toad, is there enough information that warrants his own article? Someone enlighten me. [[User:MarioManiac1981|MarioManiac1981]] ([[User talk:MarioManiac1981|talk]]) 21:52, July 13, 2019 (EST) | |||
:It's hard to say, I think it would depend on the Japanese name of Taskmaster. Toadette's "Chief" JP name explicitly mentions her own name, so potentially if the JP name were to be "Taskmaster Toad", that could be concrete enough to call him ''the'' Toad. For the other Toads, the link to the Brigade is less clear-cut and I would argue that they're unrelated, considering they lack the distinct details (Blue Toad's glasses, Red Toad being Captain Toad) that have been consistent ever since. It may be that the Blue Toad is [[Blue Toad (character)]], distinct from the [[Hint Toad]] from the Brigade. For Green Toad/Banktoad, well, it's arbitrary since he has used a pickaxe before anyway. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 05:33, July 14, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::So, the Yellow Toad is still very likely to be the same one from the Toad Brigade? [[User:MarioManiac1981|MarioManiac1981]] ([[User talk:MarioManiac1981|talk]]) 12:35, July 14, 2019 (EST) | |||
:::As far as I know, only the playable blue Toad is explicitly identified as "Toad" within the game, but given that the playable characters are likely just a reference to the ''New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe'' cast of characters (sans yellow) and the ''Super Mario 3D World'' Toad '''has''' been identified as "Blue Kinopio" [[Talk:Toad#Reopening a can of worms|at least once]], I'd be interested to know if Story Mode's Blue Toad and the playable Toad share the same model data or how they're referred to internally by the developers since that's probably the closest we can gather to sort this out. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:01, July 14, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== A Reception Section == | |||
Would it be possible to get a Reviews section added to the page? I noticed that most other games seem to have one on their pages. | |||
{{unsigned|73.31.9.110}} | |||
:Yes, of course! We just need to find reviews from professional critics and credible sites and then we'll be good to go! [[User:MarioManiac1981|MarioManiac1981]] ([[User talk:MarioManiac1981|talk]]) 23:35, July 16, 2019 (EST) | |||
== misplaced differnce == | |||
Shouldn't [[Snake Block|"Snake Blocks]] in multiplayer require one player to activate rather than having to wait for other players to step on them." be in the [[New Super Mario Bros. U|"New Super Mario Bros. U"]] subsection of the "original games" section of diffences instead of the "general" subsection of the [[Super Mario Maker|"Super Mario Maker"]] section because last time I checked the original Super Mario Maker didn't have Snake Blocks or Multiplayer [[User:Wild starfish|Wild starfish]] ([[User talk:Wild starfish|talk]]) 17:40, July 16, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:No, because Snake Blocks are in all game styles. Thank you, though. [[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/JoeRunner|and stuff]]) 12:09, July 17, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::He means it is a difference from the original ''NSMBU'', which it exclusively is. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 12:35, July 17, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== List of clothing == | |||
Would it be okay to make a list of the Mii clothing available in the game? {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 01:37, July 17, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:[[List of Mii outfits in Super Mario Maker 2|Already exists]]. It's under construction and needs a rewrite, but you could ask {{User|Zachruff}} if you can help. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 07:17, July 17, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Medal Rankings == | |||
*I don't know if this is going to be mentioned in the article, but I have been trying to keep tabs on the medals that players can potentially acquire. Below is what I've gotten down, based on my findings in the Easy Endless Challenge, but this could apply in other areas as well, such as maker points (all-time and weekly), total clears, total first clears, and world record times. {{User:M&SG/sig}} 15:07, July 18, 2019 (EDT) | |||
Bronze Medal: Global top 1000<br> | |||
Silver Medal: Global top 200<br> | |||
Gold Medal: Global top 100<br> | |||
Bronze Ribbon: Global 3rd place ranking<br> | |||
Silver Ribbon: Global 2nd place ranking<br> | |||
Gold Ribbon: Global 1st place ranking | |||
==Clear Conditions== | |||
Are we documenting Clear Conditions anywhere? There don't seem to be many good lists online. [[User:AgentMuffin|AgentMuffin]] ([[User talk:AgentMuffin|talk]]) 12:20, July 27, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:Added a section to the article. I need help checking for accurate menu order, completeness, and correct plurals, and with adding images. Also, should it be on a separate list page? [[User:AgentMuffin|AgentMuffin]] ([[User talk:AgentMuffin|talk]]) 21:26, July 27, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Swamp Escape by Shell! Payment == | |||
The Swamp Escape by Shell! level does not list the [[Dry Bones Shell]] doghouse as the Payment in the table. Can't edit the page since it's protected. [[User:Willowmaine|Willowmaine]] ([[User talk:Willowmaine|talk]]) 04:48, January 6, 2020 (EST) | |||
:Added it, thanks. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 07:03, January 6, 2020 (EST) | |||
== Jelectro & Urchin == | |||
I uploaded images for the [[Jelectro]] and Urchin icons; can't edit the page for the same reason above. [[User:Willowmaine|Willowmaine]] ([[User talk:Willowmaine|talk]]) 04:48, January 6, 2020 (EST) | |||
<br/> [[File:SMM2_Jelectro_SMB3_icon.png|100px]] <br/> [[File:SMM2_Urchin_SMW_icon.png|100px]] | |||
:These are not the icons, though; they're the sprites just upscaled to match the size of the other icon images. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 07:03, January 6, 2020 (EST) | |||
== Controls of the game == | |||
There's a small problem with the controls section: the page doesn't mention that (in the default control setting for playing levels) the "A" button makes Mario [or the character] Jump and "X" makes him/her Attack (or Dash/Grabbing Objects) along with "B" and "Y", respectively. This was just a detail, I only wanted to mention it. Anyway, I wish that anyone adds this detail. {{unsigned|190.96.26.157}} | |||
:Added a note. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 20:23, March 15, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Separate Night Column == | |||
I feel like the section talking about the nighttime Ground theme effects is too large and might even be missing more than we think. Do you think we should just make a separate column in the course elements table that talks about changes in the Nighttime ground theme to that element and if there isn't any, they can just be labeled N/A? Anyone on board with this? [[User:Prpro=03|PrPro03]] ([[User talk:Prpro=03|talk]]) 08:25, April 21, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:It should really be removed altogether; that information should be on [[Moon (Super Mario Maker 2)]]. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 09:04, April 21, 2020 (EDT) | |||
==SMB2 Mushroom== | |||
Don't see this mentioned. The SMB2 mushroom will match your jumps in the night ground theme, hopping into the air whenever you jump. [[User:Wariobwario|Wariobwario]] ([[User talk:Wariobwario|talk]]) 07:48, April 23, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Minor change == | |||
In the section "World Maker, Themes", [[Forest of Illusion]] isn't linked. I can't edit this section because I'am not autoconfirmed user. [[User:Lautaro 97|Lautaro 97]] ([[User talk:Lautaro 97|talk]]) 18:53, July 10, 2020 (EDT) PD: sorry for my English, I'm Spanish speaker. | |||
:Looks like it's already linked. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:55, July 10, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::[[User:Alex95|Alex95]] You're right. I just saw again and confirmed that it was linked. Sorry for the inconvenience. [[User:Lautaro 97|Lautaro 97]] ([[User talk:Lautaro 97|talk]]) 19:00, July 10, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Split? == | |||
Why isn't Ninji Speedruns a different page? {{User:DarkNight/sig}} 21:05, July 29, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Ninji Speedruns translations == | |||
The "names in other languages" section for Ninji Speedruns is lacking a few languages. For example, it's called "Contre-la-montre des Ninjis" ("Ninjis' Time Trial") in French. {{User|NokiDoki}} | |||
:I guess you can wait until you're autoconfirmed, but you can specify the others. {{User:DarkNight/sig}} 20:13, September 1, 2020 (EDT) | |||
Added NOA Spanish names for the ''Ninji Speedruns'' mode as well as each of its levels. I will go through later and check to see if the NOE translations differ. | |||
--[[User:The Eggo55|The Eggo55]] ([[User talk:The Eggo55|talk]]) 21:22, October 2, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== ''SMB Deluxe'' Luigi sprite on Japanese flyer == | |||
A pre-release flyer in Japan for ''Super Mario Maker 2'' has Super Luigi’s sprite from ''[[Super Mario Bros. Deluxe]]''.<ref>[https://youtu.be/vksWgXmSpB4 8-Bit Luigi Discovered on Super Mario Maker 2 Flyer in Japan! (+ Possible Multiplayer Hint?)]. ''YouTube''. Retrieved 24 December 2022.</ref> I’m putting it here because I wasn’t sure where to put it in the article. '''Yours truly, Princess Toadstoo-- I mean [[User:NintendoFan08|NintendoFan08]].''' 08:15, December 24, 2022 (EST) | |||
== Create a page for Ground (block) == | |||
{{SettledTPP}} | |||
{{ProposalOutcome|green|Create article with comparisons 0-4-0}} | |||
So, here me out. ''Super Mario Maker'' series has brought us pages for Slopes and even Semisolid Platforms. The long awaited names for objects that have existed since the dawn of time. A notable addition to that collection is the Ground tile, which can also sometimes appear with background elements when placed. There is generally no reason not to cover it. The problem is, as noted by Archivist Toadette, | |||
:"''I think they're referring to the actual ground tiles from the editor. Not sure what to say, though, since that could potentially open up a can of worms to include every time natural ground appears in a game...unless, of course, we limit it to Super Mario Maker and Super Mario Maker 2.''" | |||
So why not do just that. Create a page about Ground tiles in the ''Super Mario Maker'' series, and exclude everything else. We know what is considered Ground, the game clearly tells us what Ground tiles are. Trying to fit in content from past games into [[Semisolid Platform]] has proven difficult with its own edge cases, Ground will no doubt be even more problematic. | |||
I propose three options: | |||
# Ground receives its own page, only covering the tiles from the ''Super Mario Maker'' series and nothing else. | |||
# Ground recieves its own page, only covering the tiles from the ''Super Mario Maker'' series with one exception: comparisons to tiles from past games are acceptable, as long as the tile has the same texture as the one from SMM. Example: it's OK to mention how Ground tiles in ''Super Mario Bros.'' act as bricks, rather than as indestructible blocks, because they have the same appearance in SMM. This option would imply Ground blocks' first appearance is in 1985. | |||
# No change is made. | |||
'''Proposer''': {{User|Spectrogram}}<br> | |||
'''Deadline''': April 11th, 2023, 23:59 GMT | |||
===''Super Mario Maker'' only=== | |||
===Comparisons are fine=== | |||
#{{User|Spectrogram}} Per proposal. | |||
#{{User|Killer Moth}} Per proposal. Your reasoning makes sense and I am honestly surprised that there isn't a page yet for this. | |||
#{{User|Camwood777}} - If we have articles covering things as seemingly trivial as [[Horsetail|those decorative horsetail-like "trees" from SMB1]], just because there happens to be an actual Horsetail item in TTYD and SPM and someone evidently figured they might as well catalog those, when those plants serve strictly as decoration in SMB1 and can't even be interacted with... Yeah, having an article for the Ground as it appears in Super Mario Maker and making notes as to where each of the tilesets came from isn't really too much of a stretch, especially since the ground tiles are probably a lot more impactful overall. It's a named thing in the Mario universe with its own distinct properties and differences across different games (and in Mario Maker's case, game ''styles'', therefore this just makes sense. Though, we might need to move [[Ground]] over to something like ''Ground (theme)'', and make the article be ''Ground (block)'' or ''Ground (tile)''. | |||
#{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} Per proposal. | |||
===No thanks=== | |||
===Comments=== | |||
I don't see what's inherently wrong with option two, but I'm waiting to see if there's other input first. I do think that, should the proposal pass, "Ground" should be the name of the article, and the current Ground article should be moved to "Ground (level)". [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 15:34, March 28, 2023 (EDT) | |||
Apparently Ground tiles in ''[[Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars]]'' level editor are also called "Ground". [[User:Spectrogram|Spectrogram]] ([[User talk:Spectrogram|talk]]) 08:22, April 4, 2023 (EDT) | |||