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:::I'm not happy about it, but it seems to be the official English name, however generic it may be, and should probably be moved back. Though I think there should be more comments on this first. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 09:17, August 13, 2022 (EDT) | :::I'm not happy about it, but it seems to be the official English name, however generic it may be, and should probably be moved back. Though I think there should be more comments on this first. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 09:17, August 13, 2022 (EDT) | ||
::::My two cents? As shaky as some of this material is, the Mario Portal at least seems like an overall better source than Dark Horse, and we're already starting to use some of the new names for other pages. Yes, a lot of the ''Land 2'' names are still straightforward romanizations, but so are most of the ones from the original ''Land''. Coming from the one who made the move to Antotto [[Talk:Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins#Decide if unlocalized Super Mario Land 2 enemies should use Japanese or generic names|per my proposal]]. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 11:19, August 13, 2022 (EDT) | ::::My two cents? As shaky as some of this material is, the Mario Portal at least seems like an overall better source than Dark Horse, and we're already starting to use some of the new names for other pages. Yes, a lot of the ''Land 2'' names are still straightforward romanizations, but so are most of the ones from the original ''Land''. Coming from the one who made the move to Antotto [[Talk:Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins#Decide if unlocalized Super Mario Land 2 enemies should use Japanese or generic names|per my proposal]]. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 11:19, August 13, 2022 (EDT) | ||
:While I'm not questioning the source as they at least tried solving inconsistencies and making sense out of what was published in the English translation of the Encyclopedia, it should be noted how a few names are lowercase, those are usually just a description of the enemy (ant, bear, shark, bird). In this case, talking about "official name" is a bit misleading, as the lowercase clearly shows that these are not really names, just descriptors. Their presence means that the subject doesn't really have an American English name. As such, I wouldn't mind keeping a more specific name, if present in the original language.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:49, August 13, 2022 (EDT) | |||
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So the Mario Portal got an English translation recently and it seems to call this critter "ant" in English, but there's a catch; the other three Antotto varieties still go by their romanized Japanese names, and "ant" in this instance is lowercase just like the "star", "bear" and "shark" that appear in this game are. So...should we move this page to "Ant (Super Mario Land 2)" or leave it as is? S o m e t h i n g o n e ! 
21:46, August 12, 2022 (EDT)
- Leave as is, there's plenty of cases where enemies are referred to by generic names such as in Super Mario 64 (Dorrie/Swimming Beast, Klepto/Big Bird) and we refer to them by their regular names. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 07:46, August 13, 2022 (EDT)
- What sets this case apart from the examples you mentioned is that "ant" is the sole name presented for this enemy among a large number of other localised names from the same game, indicating that it is, in fact, the enemy's official English name. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 08:01, August 13, 2022 (EDT)
- I'm not happy about it, but it seems to be the official English name, however generic it may be, and should probably be moved back. Though I think there should be more comments on this first.
(T|C) 09:17, August 13, 2022 (EDT)
- My two cents? As shaky as some of this material is, the Mario Portal at least seems like an overall better source than Dark Horse, and we're already starting to use some of the new names for other pages. Yes, a lot of the Land 2 names are still straightforward romanizations, but so are most of the ones from the original Land. Coming from the one who made the move to Antotto per my proposal. LinkTheLefty (talk) 11:19, August 13, 2022 (EDT)
- I'm not happy about it, but it seems to be the official English name, however generic it may be, and should probably be moved back. Though I think there should be more comments on this first.
- What sets this case apart from the examples you mentioned is that "ant" is the sole name presented for this enemy among a large number of other localised names from the same game, indicating that it is, in fact, the enemy's official English name. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 08:01, August 13, 2022 (EDT)
- While I'm not questioning the source as they at least tried solving inconsistencies and making sense out of what was published in the English translation of the Encyclopedia, it should be noted how a few names are lowercase, those are usually just a description of the enemy (ant, bear, shark, bird). In this case, talking about "official name" is a bit misleading, as the lowercase clearly shows that these are not really names, just descriptors. Their presence means that the subject doesn't really have an American English name. As such, I wouldn't mind keeping a more specific name, if present in the original language.--Mister Wu (talk) 18:49, August 13, 2022 (EDT)
