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*[[User talk:Super Radio/Archive 1|My first contact with people on the Internet didn't go well...]]
*[[User talk:Super Radio/Archive 2|A 6-year-or-so stay at the Grand Wiki Motel]]
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== RE:SMO Moons ==
== RE:SMO Moons ==


No problem at all. It's not a draft, I just moved it to my userspace as kind of an archive. The {{tem|Kingdom}} template is perfectly fine as it is right now. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 14:42, 7 January 2018 (EST)
No problem at all. It's not a draft, I just moved it to my userspace as kind of an archive. The {{tem|SMO kingdoms}} template is perfectly fine as it is right now. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 14:42, 7 January 2018 (EST)
:Yeah, even then, it's tough, as only about half of the episodes have made it to YouTube. I'm still trying to find a website where the remaining episodes are legitimately archived, but if you see any full episodes other than those in [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LGfMorPEBsI this video], feel free to let me or someone else know, on the wiki, forums, or otherwise. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 16:23, 7 January 2018 (EST)
:Yeah, even then, it's tough, as only about half of the episodes have made it to YouTube. I'm still trying to find a website where the remaining episodes are legitimately archived, but if you see any full episodes other than those in [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LGfMorPEBsI this video], feel free to let me or someone else know, on the wiki, forums, or otherwise. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 16:23, 7 January 2018 (EST)
::Thanks for your kindness! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 16:43, 7 January 2018 (EST)
::Thanks for your kindness! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 16:43, 7 January 2018 (EST)
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:Oof, didn't remember that. I don't know, April Fools' is a strange day for us. Like, I'm all for joking around and stuff, but I also know that we're supposed to provide accurate information. If someone reads an article with an April Fools' prank on it, and not know it's a joke (unless it's blatantly obvious), they might take that as fact. The Bob Hoskens quote change you shared is a good example of that: If you don't know of Bob's experience with the film already, and you see the quote Magikrazy posted, what would you think?
:Oof, didn't remember that. I don't know, April Fools' is a strange day for us. Like, I'm all for joking around and stuff, but I also know that we're supposed to provide accurate information. If someone reads an article with an April Fools' prank on it, and not know it's a joke (unless it's blatantly obvious), they might take that as fact. The Bob Hoskens quote change you shared is a good example of that: If you don't know of Bob's experience with the film already, and you see the quote Magikrazy posted, what would you think?
:Long story short, you didn't do anything wrong. Considering what day it is, we're more lenient about this (hence why you didn't receive a warning). I think it would be best if the jokes were kept off of the main articles, but that may be just me. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 14:55, 1 April 2018 (EDT)
:Long story short, you didn't do anything wrong. Considering what day it is, we're more lenient about this (hence why you didn't receive a warning). I think it would be best if the jokes were kept off of the main articles, but that may be just me. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 14:55, 1 April 2018 (EDT)
I thought it was funny. I decided to [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Helicopter Yoshi|‎archive it]]. If you don't want this archived, you reserve the right to request deletion for the rules laid out on [[MarioWiki:BJAODN]]. Just be sure to tag [[:File:HelicopterYoshi.jpg]] for deletion as well if you decide to tag the archived version of [[Helicopter Yoshi]] for BJAODN. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 17:54, 2 April 2018 (EDT)
I thought it was funny. I decided to [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Helicopter Yoshi|archive it]]. If you don't want this archived, you reserve the right to request deletion for the rules laid out on [[MarioWiki:BJAODN]]. Just be sure to tag [[:File:HelicopterYoshi.jpg]] for deletion as well if you decide to tag the archived version of [[Helicopter Yoshi]] for BJAODN. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 17:54, 2 April 2018 (EDT)
:'Tis a shame. Oh well. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 11:20, 4 April 2018 (EDT)
:'Tis a shame. Oh well. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 11:20, 4 April 2018 (EDT)
::If you are not 100% OK with keeping things deleted, talk to {{user|Yoshi876}}, as he is the one that deleted [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Helicopter Yoshi|the page]]. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 11:41, 4 April 2018 (EDT)
::If you are not 100% OK with keeping things deleted, talk to {{user|Yoshi876}}, as he is the one that deleted [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Helicopter Yoshi|the page]]. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 11:41, 4 April 2018 (EDT)
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I noticed that you previously <span class="plainlinks">[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Donkey_Kong_Country&diff=1588085&oldid=1587435 added a music themes column to the ''DKC'' levels table]</span>. I'm thinking about removing it, for a few reasons. To begin with, the track names lack meaning without any other context. I suppose the table cells could be modified later to embed a sample sound file of each track, but I don't think this information belongs in the main level table of the article: it feels like side information that's not directly relevant to summarizing the levels. They are also completely redundant with the current ''DKC'' level types separation (see [[User:The Retro Gamer/music|here]]). [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 01:27, 25 April 2018 (EDT)
I noticed that you previously <span class="plainlinks">[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Donkey_Kong_Country&diff=1588085&oldid=1587435 added a music themes column to the ''DKC'' levels table]</span>. I'm thinking about removing it, for a few reasons. To begin with, the track names lack meaning without any other context. I suppose the table cells could be modified later to embed a sample sound file of each track, but I don't think this information belongs in the main level table of the article: it feels like side information that's not directly relevant to summarizing the levels. They are also completely redundant with the current ''DKC'' level types separation (see [[User:The Retro Gamer/music|here]]). [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 01:27, 25 April 2018 (EDT)
:The main point I intended to emphasize is that the music ''isn't important'' enough to mention in the main levels table, regardless of terrain correspondence. The music is already listed on the individual levels' pages (via the <code><nowiki>|song=</nowiki></code> parameter of <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Levelbox|Levelbox]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>.) I don't think it is useful for most readers to also list this in the main levels table. If a reader is browsing the main levels table, the music is less relevant because of its audio format than things like terrain, bonus levels, and enemies (not currently included in the ''DKC'' levels tables; maybe it should be added.) One can only understand music by listening to it; the track names are just names otherwise.
:The main point I intended to emphasize is that the music ''isn't important'' enough to mention in the main levels table, regardless of terrain correspondence. The music is already listed on the individual levels' pages (via the <code><nowiki>|song=</nowiki></code> parameter of <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Level infobox|level infobox]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>.) I don't think it is useful for most readers to also list this in the main levels table. If a reader is browsing the main levels table, the music is less relevant because of its audio format than things like terrain, bonus levels, and enemies (not currently included in the ''DKC'' levels tables; maybe it should be added.) One can only understand music by listening to it; the track names are just names otherwise.


:As a counterargument though, I suppose one could argue that because of the soundtracks, the music in ''DKC'' is more well-defined and more notable then other games. I still don't think this means including this information in the main levels tables for the articles is useful for navigation. But if it were to be included in the main levels, I think it ''must'' also include a sample of what the music sounds like. [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 12:47, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
:As a counterargument though, I suppose one could argue that because of the soundtracks, the music in ''DKC'' is more well-defined and more notable then other games. I still don't think this means including this information in the main levels tables for the articles is useful for navigation. But if it were to be included in the main levels, I think it ''must'' also include a sample of what the music sounds like. [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 12:47, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
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You're right, I got my information mixed up. Thanks for correcting that! I'll move the images so they actually make sense now :P {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:13, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
You're right, I got my information mixed up. Thanks for correcting that! I'll move the images so they actually make sense now :P {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:13, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
:[[Crosshair Cranky|Looks like the page exists here already]], but I'll try and improve it when I get to it! {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:25, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
:[[Crosshair Cranky|Looks like the page exists here already]], but I'll try and improve it when I get to it! {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:25, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
::^ Page has been overhauled. Don't know the game very well, so if it can be improved further, please do so :) {{User:Alex95/sig}} 13:06, 5 August 2018 (EDT)


==Re: Event table==
==Re: Event table==
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:Of those two, I'd probably say the first one would be better, because even with the shorter titles it doesn't really make the rows any smaller, which I think would be perhaps what is needed. The only other thing I could think of is having the classes in an extra column down the side which go alongside all of the events in the class, but, because I am useless with tables I can't quite figure out how to do that. But of your two, it's probably better to go with the first one. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 14:08, 6 July 2018 (EDT)
:Of those two, I'd probably say the first one would be better, because even with the shorter titles it doesn't really make the rows any smaller, which I think would be perhaps what is needed. The only other thing I could think of is having the classes in an extra column down the side which go alongside all of the events in the class, but, because I am useless with tables I can't quite figure out how to do that. But of your two, it's probably better to go with the first one. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 14:08, 6 July 2018 (EDT)
::I didn't even notice that the links had been removed, but when you do notice it, it does look better. So yeah, feel free to change it to that, but I'd recommend maybe adding links to the very first row in the athletics section, as only a few of the games are linked to in the introductory paragraph. And with the proposal, you don't really know yet, I had one talk page proposal get five votes in the last three days, so everyone might just decide to vote all of a sudden. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 15:04, 6 July 2018 (EDT)
::I didn't even notice that the links had been removed, but when you do notice it, it does look better. So yeah, feel free to change it to that, but I'd recommend maybe adding links to the very first row in the athletics section, as only a few of the games are linked to in the introductory paragraph. And with the proposal, you don't really know yet, I had one talk page proposal get five votes in the last three days, so everyone might just decide to vote all of a sudden. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 15:04, 6 July 2018 (EDT)
:::Yep, that looks good! [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 16:55, 7 July 2018 (EDT)
== Peer review request ==
Hi, I've been working on the [[Odyssey]] page and hope to make it the next featured article (after ''[[Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars]]'', of course). I already triple-checked the criteria and have since filled in the only remaining red link, uploaded an image for the ''Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker'' cameo, and fixed some lackluster writing in the ''Super Mario Odyssey'' section. Is there anything more I need to do to make it better, perhaps in the intro? Or is it purging the trivia entries into the article body? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 02:03, 13 July 2018 (EDT)
:That's not to say that [[Culex]] is shorter. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 15:53, 14 July 2018 (EDT)
::Yes, your review helped. I'm just making another point from what I can understand about featured articles. ;) {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 18:31, 14 July 2018 (EDT)
== gif image ==
The shortcut barrel image loads just fine for me. It may be large, but it seems to work fine. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 15:07, 23 July 2018 (EDT)
:Alright, fair enough. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 15:20, 23 July 2018 (EDT)
== Re: Sooperstar Grammar ==
While "advantage" can be a verb, it's rather unusual to use it as such, and as such, "While some may advantange the ball, other only hinder it by bouncing it away from the basket" looks a tad wonky. Also that "n" shouldn't be there at all. When I was looking over it before, I noticed a lot of oddities, but that's what sticks out the most. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:35, 27 July 2018 (EDT)
:Yeah. Sorry about that. I tend to forget that many of the users on here have different native languages, particularly when most of the time, the ones that do often do seem to speak with great fluency. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:07, 27 July 2018 (EDT)
== Levels ==
I see you are editing levels disambig. pages. May i help, or you can do it on your own? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 11:04, 10 October 2018 (EDT)
== "Objects can't cameo" ==
Yes they can. The definition relevant to this is "A single very brief appearance." [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:36, 13 October 2018 (EDT)
:ok -- {{User:Super Radio/Sig}} 16:01, 13 October 2018 (EDT)
== Knitted rope and bjaodn ==
Not making fun of you or anything, but it does amuse me somewhat that most of what you're improving was added by you in the first place, looking through the history. So, congratulations on having improved so much. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:09, 22 October 2018 (EDT)
== RE:Proposals ==
I just thought that the users might have different opinions on each individual case, since Alex95 opposed the merging of [[Boss Rush]], but had no big opinion of the others. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 20:01, 24 October 2018 (EDT)
== RE: Mainbrace Mayhem ==
Yeah, I understand why that's be pretty useless. Do you want to remove that info? [[User:Scrooge200|Scrooge200]] ([[User talk:Scrooge200|talk]]) 20:51, 5 November 2018 (EST)
:Also, when I count bananas, should I include the bananas on the End of Level Flag roulette? I'm against this, as I think some levels have both banana bunches and single bananas on the roulette. [[User:Scrooge200|Scrooge200]] ([[User talk:Scrooge200|talk]]) 20:54, 6 November 2018 (EST)
::Okay, that sounds like a good idea. [[User:Scrooge200|Scrooge200]] ([[User talk:Scrooge200|talk]]) 22:09, 7 November 2018 (EST)
:::I don't count End of Level Target bananas in the list. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 22:22, 7 November 2018 (EST)
== My username being hard to type ==
Indeed, and for several months I typed out the signature section (including time) by hand, before eventually just using the four tildes. Hence why some of my older sigs are in Central Time. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:50, 9 November 2018 (EST)
== Spear Guy (toy) ==
By any chance, would Spear Guy happen to be the name of Shy Guy in the PAL version of ''Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Minis March Again''? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:58, 21 November 2018 (EST)
:Cool. Please add the PAL quote to match the NTSC reference if you can. Are any of the others different (Circus Kong, Piranha Plant, Pokey, Thwomp, Capture Kong, Snifit, Polterguy)? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 14:14, 21 November 2018 (EST)
::The other snippets probably are not necessary to the wiki, but the Polterguy / Phantom Guy name difference might've been used to help resolve its coverage if it were known earlier. Shy Guy / Spear Guy still has the points outlined in [[Talk:Shy_Guy_(Mario_vs._Donkey_Kong:_Minis_March_Again!)#Merge_with_Shy_Guy_.28toy.29|its proposal]], though - the spear, like the [[Talk:Snifit_(toy)#Merge_Snifit_.28Mario_vs._Donkey_Kong:_Minis_March_Again.21.29_with_Snifit_.28toy.29|Snifit's spikes]], was added to convey to players that enemies cannot be jumped on like they could in the previous game before making the ''Minis March Again'' gameplay the standard for the rest of the series. By the way, something odd I wanted to clarify as well - does the PAL Phantom Guy quote refer to it as both a Polterguy and Phantom Guy, or was that just a small oversight? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:47, 27 November 2018 (EST)
:::By that, I mean [[Polterguy#cite_note-4|your reference]] mentions both Polterguy and Phantom Guy. Is that how it is in the game? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:22, 3 December 2018 (EST)
== ''Mario vs. Donkey Kong'' ready to be featured once more? ==
In light of [[MarioWiki:Featured articles/Unfeature/N1/Mario vs. Donkey Kong|this]], it looks like your one big problem with the article has been resolved thanks to Alex95. Is it time to re-feature it?
Also, I made an [[MarioWiki:Featured articles/Unfeature/N/Mario Super Sluggers|unfeature nomination]] which I invite you to share your opinions on. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 19:53, 28 November 2018 (EST)
== Re: A Spooooo<sub>ooooooo</sub><small>oooooooo</small><sup>oooooooo</sup>ooooooky question ==
Probably "variation" would be the most accurate term for it, though I consider a digital soundfont to qualify for "arrangement," myself. I'm no expert on music theory, I can just recognize certain elements better than most people and have composed on occasion. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:13, 13 December 2018 (EST)
== Complicating frog ==
Regarding the ''Yoshi's Story'' one, it's no more a generic frog than Cheep Cheep is a generic fish. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:30, 6 January 2019 (EST)
:The reason of why the YS frogs are proposed to be spit is because they have a different and unique Japanese name from generic frogs, not just because they are enemies. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 18:56, 6 January 2019 (EST)