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Yeah, I can understand that, but what else have I done wrong? {{User:VOIDTHIS/sig}} 23:40, 7 July 2018 (CEST)
Yeah, I can understand that, but what else have I done wrong? {{User:VOIDTHIS/sig}} 23:40, 7 July 2018 (CEST)
:I'll make it related then. But why did you remove Tutankoopa? {{User:VOIDTHIS/sig}} 23:45, 7 July 2018 (CEST)
:I'll make it related then. But why did you remove Tutankoopa? {{User:VOIDTHIS/sig}} 23:45, 7 July 2018 (CEST)
::To me they always looked like they have some connection, especially because they originate from the same game, even though they are of different species. You can remove it if you want. {{User:VOIDTHIS/sig}} 17:03, 19 July 2018 (CEST)


== Coin Bandit ==
== Coin Bandit ==
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:::Bert may have been an error, since Naval Piranha has been mispelled Naaval Piranha. Maybe this site isn't actually official and the artworks belong to the manuals? --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 03:53, 13 July 2018 (EDT)
:::Bert may have been an error, since Naval Piranha has been mispelled Naaval Piranha. Maybe this site isn't actually official and the artworks belong to the manuals? --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 03:53, 13 July 2018 (EDT)
::::Also, if you make sprites of a [[Mace Guy]], would you rather use the artwork color for what called a Mace which is actually a flail in black with white spikes or light blue with yellow spikes? The sprite one reminds me something. Not the Spike's ball in this game, but something else. --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 04:00, 13 July 2018 (EDT)
::::Also, if you make sprites of a [[Mace Guy]], would you rather use the artwork color for what called a Mace which is actually a flail in black with white spikes or light blue with yellow spikes? The sprite one reminds me something. Not the Spike's ball in this game, but something else. --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 04:00, 13 July 2018 (EDT)
[[File:Bert.png|thumb|left|240px|It looks really much like it.]]
[[File:Burt.png|thumb|left|240px|It looks really much like it.]]


== Re:Harry Hedgehog illustration ==
== Re:Harry Hedgehog illustration ==


That scan comes from [https://hit930.sakura.ne.jp/hitjapan/book10/P140929101.JPG this book,] which is not from Shogakukan; the Shogakukan guide for the Super Famicom version is [https://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/funfunhomes/boko0005gm15531x19508.html this] [https://www.ebay.com/itm/YOSSY-ISLAND-Nintendo-Official-Guide-SFC-Book-SG34/311796459208 one.] However, if you look at the scans, you'll see that it doesn't appear to have the artwork you're looking for, whereas the first book has it. Shogakukan is preferred because it's reliably a Nintendo licensee, but the first book also has a Nintendo copyright on it, so it seems like it's official as well. Also, you can see [https://hit930.sakura.ne.jp/hitjapan/book11/P150130315.JPG here] that the Slime enemy is referred to as "Block Slime" and [https://hit930.sakura.ne.jp/hitjapan/book11/P150130316.JPG here] in the top-right corner that Harry Hedgehog's name starts with "Super" - which calls into question their alternate names it has in another book (and puts others such as Lantern Ghost on notice). Basically, while both of these guides in particular are official, we should probably start being more selective and make sure that all third-party sources are properly licensed, since it's entirely possible that we've allowed the citation of unofficial Japanese guides. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:38, 15 July 2018 (EDT)
That scan comes from [https://hit930.sakura.ne.jp/hitjapan/book10/P140929101.JPG this book,] which is not from Shogakukan; the Shogakukan guide for the Super Famicom version is [https://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/funfunhomes/boko0005gm15531x19508.html this] [https://www.ebay.com/itm/YOSSY-ISLAND-Nintendo-Official-Guide-SFC-Book-SG34/311796459208 one.] However, if you look at the scans, you'll see that it doesn't appear to have the artwork you're looking for, whereas the first book has it. Shogakukan is preferred because it's reliably a Nintendo licensee, but the first book also has a Nintendo copyright on it, so it seems like it's official as well. Also, you can see [https://hit930.sakura.ne.jp/hitjapan/book11/P150130315.JPG here] that the Slime enemy is referred to as "Block Slime" and [https://hit930.sakura.ne.jp/hitjapan/book11/P150130316.JPG here] in the top-right corner that Harry Hedgehog's name starts with "Super" - which calls into question the alternate names they have in another book (and puts others such as Lantern Ghost on notice). Basically, while both of these guides in particular are official, we should probably start being more selective and make sure that all third-party sources are properly licensed, since it's entirely possible that we've allowed the citation of unofficial Japanese guides. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:38, 15 July 2018 (EDT)
 
== Re:Puchipuchi L ==
 
[https://hit930.sakura.ne.jp/hitjapan/book11/P150130316.JPG Here?] It looks like it, but the {{media link|Advance 3 Shogakukan P21.png|''Super Mario Advance 3'' version}} attributes it to the smaller one, so let's say it's both. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:50, 17 July 2018 (EDT)
 
== About Bamboo Dancers ==
 
The reason I changed it from derived species of Spear Guy is because of the edits going around shortening the lists of derived species to immediate derivatives, and while Dancing Spear Guy is blatantly derived from Spear Guy, Bamboo Dancers looked like it was sorely missing from the Shy Guy article. I've already added it as a related species on the Dancing Spear Guy article, with which it has the most similarities, so it shouldn't need to be on both. On that note, Hulu is called a Bamboo Dancer in Japanese (and, as far as I'm aware, doesn't use a spear). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:33, 17 July 2018 (EDT)
:Okay. I completely forgot about the difference their sprites had with the artwork in the article. The design is too distinct, so Spear Guy it is. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:55, 17 July 2018 (EDT)
 
== Kamek's white face in artwork. ==
 
About Kamek, i think it was just a mistake and they forgot to color it. [[File:SMW2 YI Grinder.png|thumb|left|Note how the Ukiki's lower jaw was by mistake though, colored in brown instead of beige.]] Also, for Salvo, i've found an official [https://hit930.sakura.ne.jp/hitjapan/book10/P140929106.JPG artwork] depicting the battle. --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 02:51, 18 July 2018 (EDT)
::Yes, i notice. We should also note that the official artwork of Salvo the Slime (showing the battle as an artwork) anyways depicts Salvo green instead of beige. Notably, sometimes, it's not only the color, it's the design. Take exemple on the Melon Bug, it has big eyes with sclera and small pupils in the artwork with either blue or yellow stripes on it body depending on the artwork, but has beady black eyes on the sprite and the stripes are yellow instead. Cloud Drops have the same face that Lava Drop do in the artwork (likely a recolor of the Lava Drop only looking at the different side) but in-game it face is different. Yoshi's Island DS oddly put the same face on the Cloud Drop of the Lava Drop and in Yoshi Touch and Go, but Yoshi's New Island and Yoshi's Woolly World along with Poochy and Yoshi's Woolly, Cloud Drops retain their face from the game. Also, Mace Guys have black Maces with white spikes on their artwork, but in-game, they are light blue with yellow spikes. I know we already discuted about that though. Yoshi's New Island redesigns [[Dancing Spear Guy|Dancing Spear Guys]] in term of color, the mark on their mask are green along with their shoes which are green too. --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 03:21, 18 July 2018 (EDT)
:::I know these ones in Mario Party, but i was referring about Yoshi series. --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 03:32, 18 July 2018 (EDT)
 
== Thank you. ==
 
Thank you for every edit you've ever done ever! [[User:Thanked you for your edit on|Thanked you for your edit on]] ([[User talk:Thanked you for your edit on|talk]]) 15:02, 19 July 2018 (EDT)
 
== A newcomer came to thank me for my edits. ==
 
Hi, yesterday, someone thanked me about every edits i done. His name is Thanked you for your edit on. Did he message you? --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 01:25, 20 July 2018 (EDT)
::Yes, i'd assume he only spam talk pages. Also, it is possible that evading a ban by registred users (creating an account) is possible, so how should we know it's him? The only way to know is that if he stills spam user talk pages. --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 01:36, 20 July 2018 (EDT)
 
==SMWYI bosses==
I've replaced the images in the ''[[Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island]]'' article that were tagged according to the template. I don't think I can crop the sprites properly out of the screenshots so I just left the backgrounds there. Hope that is acceptable. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 15:03, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
:I think the Burt the Bashful sprite is how it's ripped in some sheets, because the lib I had from MFGG also had a similar cropped borders. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 23:05, 25 July 2018 (EDT)
 
== RE: Spotlight typo ==
 
I was actually aiming for bit :P But thanks for alerting me to the typo. {{User|Yoshi876}}
 
== Hopping Tap-Tap ==
 
Sorry for my late answer but the name is in the page 127 below Hootie the Blue Fish, [https://www.mariowiki.com/images/e/e1/SMW2_Guide_127.jpg here]. --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 14:57, 23 July 2018 (EDT)
 
== Sooperstar Grammar ==
 
I changed the tense and did some minor rephrases, otherwise [[Superstar Shootout|what's to rewrite here?]] -- {{User:Super Radio/Sig}} 17:44, 27 July 2018 (EDT)
:The "n" in "advantange" was definitely a typo. Aside from that, it's very likely that my English is influenced by the grammar of my native language, where it's not uncommon to use said word as a verb. I am still working on fixing this issue, but it's no easy task since I'm actually rarely using English in day-to-day speech, so I may not be as used to it as a native. I'm asking you to be more lenient next time without making [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Tawks&diff=2432482&oldid=2432429 snide] [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Superstar_Shootout&diff=2459878&oldid=2362792 comments]. They aren't that bad but they sure are a bit discouraging after trying so hard to integrate here. -- {{User:Super Radio/Sig}} 18:58, 27 July 2018 (EDT)
::It's okay :) -- {{User:Super Radio/Sig}} 19:09, 27 July 2018 (EDT)
 
==Edit conflicts==
Really sorry about that. But the way the page was formatted was enough for me to not resist stepping in and fixing it asap {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 15:08, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
 
== Re: Koopas ==
 
I actually didn't know we had two separate templates for them. Thanks for catching and fixing that, I appreciate it. And hey, now I know for next time. {{User:Tails777/sig}}15:19, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
 
== Stop ==
 
Are you seriously like trying to revert my edit like you know it all? If you do, try at least changing the image license and using proper grammar in an Aboutfile summary. Also, I dug through your talk page; looks like you've received warnings based on your past treatment of users. [[User:The HD Guy|The HD Guy]] ([[User talk:The HD Guy|talk]]) 16:18, 2 August 2018 (EDT)
:Lol. Aboutfile summaries don't need to be full sentences, just convey the point concisely. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:20, 2 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== Springboard article ==
 
[[File:MvsDK Spring.png|60px|link=]]
 
^This is the base design that all springboards in the MvDK series follow to some extent. This means they're all composed of two plates with a spring between them. Here's a mini mario using a springboard in one of the more recent games in the series (click to enlarge):
 
[[File:MvsDKTS2-1.jpg|200px]]
 
That adds a |w| springboard to our collection. -- {{User:Super Radio/Sig}} 19:39, 2 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== Thanks ==
 
Thank you for fixing up the [[Mario_will_hoch_hinaus]] article for me, I wanted to mark it for someone since I was working on other edits at the time. Looks a lot better now. [[User:RollerC|rollerC]] ([[User talk:RollerC|talk]]) 20:54, 2 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== Edit conflict ==
 
I caught the edit, so it makes sense that I say something. If it doesn't look like I haven't said anything, then you can tell them. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 02:14, 5 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== Super Bowser-Kun ==
 
Would you mind adding the Super Mario-Kun info to [[Super Bowser]]? I can't find it anywhere on the wiki.<br>
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 13:14, 9 August 2018 (EDT)
 
:Thanks. Added to the article.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 13:24, 9 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== Change vote ==
 
Hi, just letting you know that I changed up [[Talk:Dinosaur#Clean up this page|this proposal]], so you should probably either change your vote or remove it. Additionally, the ''[[Super Mario World (television series)|Super Mario World]]'' TV info is covered at [[T-Rex (character)]], so you might want to change that part of your vote, too. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 23:02, 11 August 2018 (EDT)
 
==Re: Squiddicus==
OK, I didn't notice the Japanese name thing, so I went with it, but beforehand he was inconsistently referred to as both it and he, so at least now we've got it consistent throughout. I also didn't know about the tentacle thing, so sorry about that. The main thing I was trying to sort out with that rewrite was the strategic and unnecessary stuff, and as far as I previously knew, tentacle was the correct term, but I now know it's arm for future reference. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 17:51, 15 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== Yoshi's New Island better quality images. ==
 
Hey! It's been a few weeks i wasn't active, and i found some videos uploaded by Frenetic Gamer (which btw lack completely the bad quality and pixellisation). Because your files uploaded such as the pictures shown are said to be reuploaded for better quality. Such as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP0YwAFuQxE Underground Pokey Patrol video] where you could reupload some Needlenose files. --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 13:54, 16 August 2018 (EDT)[[File:YNI Sluggy.png|thumb|left|Such as this one needs a reupload.]] [[File:YNI Needlenose green.png|thumb|right|Or this one.]]
 
== Unfeature ==
 
Hi, regarding [[MarioWiki:Featured articles/Unfeature/N/Super Mario 64 DS|this]], i wanted to let you know that i managed to remove the {{tem|rewrite}} section, so you might want to revise your vote. {{User:YoshiEgg1990/sig}} 19:16, 19 August 2018 (EDT)
 
==Re:Woozy Guy==
Yeah I was watching a video when compiling the sprite into an animation with GIMP, so I couldn't really see the different sprite. I'll update it if I get the chance, but if you're willing to update it, be my guest. FYI, the sprite distortion to emulate how the game distorts the sprite was done through manual sprite editing (as well as the rotation) so it probably isn't accurate anyway. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:51, 19 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== Re:Conceptual Derivative ==
 
I think classifying a derivative even if "conceptual" is valid here. For example, a while back, I brought up something stating that [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Galoomba&diff=1785278&oldid=1752111 Galoombas technically aren't Goombas], yet [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Galoomba&diff=1785315&oldid=1785304 it was changed back for conceptual reasons.] If the developers intend for view something as another thing (at least earlier in development), you can say it's a derivative for similar reasons, hence conceptual. As for Strollin' Stu, I'm not aware if Kug, which is more obviously a Goomba, has any direct connection to it.  [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 14:20, 22 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== Dancing Spear Guys. ==
 
As i understand, it turns out that the gold color with green marks on the mask originates from the artwork, and not Mario Party games. Also, i will change my computer in not so long, my I.P. will probably be different, but you may recognize me by what i say and mentioning it! --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 13:48, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== Huffin Puffin ==
 
Good point. You're talking about those yellow circular buttons (orange in Yoshi's Story) right? On the spriters ressource, i was looking for some Huffin Puffin sprites sheet and found a comment. These can either be gloves or buttons. Yoshi's Story and Yoshi's Woolly World make them appear to have hands with gloves. The artwork for Yoshi's Island depicted merely these as buttons. I'm not talking about the spots but the large yellow buttons on the top of the pants. What do you think these are? Gloves or hands? And yes, you are the only who was them as a bra in Yoshi's Story. --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 15:54, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
:I've seen a comment on at least one other site that someone thought it was a swimsuit. Anyways, I added more YI series enemy sprites to that forum conversation, just by the way. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:56, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
::You usually message me back on my own talk page when i ask you something, but that will do it! Have you seen Frenetic Gamer's better quality Yoshi's New Island videos? --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 15:59, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
:::You said you'd be switching IP addresses soon, so I wanted to make sure it didn't get lost. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:39, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== Giant Raven interfile name ==
 
Since you don't own the game how did you find this? content0.game/romfs/param/enemy - namely kyutyan_a_big.csv, kyutyan_b_big.csv, kyutyan_c_big.csv & kyutyan_s_big.csv? I've found that while looking at the talk page. --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 01:01, 24 August 2018 (EDT)
:Uh, it was Link-the-Lefty who found that. Granted, I tend to remember doing things that he also remembers doing, which is totally-not-freaky. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:50, 24 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== About Fat Guy ==
 
Yes, the name has changed. For Ukikis, Ukikis were called Grinders, and Osaru-san in Japanese, they were respectively renamed to Japanese and English, Ukki and Ukiki. I know that in Yoshi's Topsy-Turvy, they have a different size and name: King Debuho in Japanese. Maybe the size change was unintentional? Before spliting, are the characteristics the same as before? --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 03:10, 24 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== Re:Super Mario: The first 30 years ==
 
I'm sure part of the reason for the delay was quality control, so I have faith that the localization will be less stiff than ''Art & Artifacts''. Although, speaking of that book, I do find the fact that several Zelda Wiki editors replaced a lot of existing references with it and further claimed that the alternate names are "no longer considered canon"  to be a little silly, given there's a recent "Helmhead Bridge" in ''Breath of the Wild'' and, like many other landmarks in the game, is clearly named after a previous figure in the series (in this case, Helmethead was chosen instead of Jermafenser). I wonder if they're aware of that? Also, doesn't it make more sense maintain the earliest source of the name? Oh well. At any rate, if those names don't get new localizations and the translation ends up just like ''Art & Artifacts'', at least it'll still remove some outstanding foreign tags and probably a few macrons. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 10:56, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== New account ==
 
I changed my computer and my I.P. changed. I am actually 83.156.220.80 and i've just created my account. I still wait for my answer about the Fat Guy. --[[File:SMW2yoshi.gif]] [[User:FanOfYoshi|Yoshi!]] [[ User talk:FanOfYoshi|Wanna discuss?]] [https://www.mariowiki.com/Special:Contributions/FanOfYoshi My contributions!] 13:47, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
:I edited with my new I.P. the discrepancies section in Super Mario World. Should we put a "Notable errors and Mistakes" section on [[Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island]]? --[[File:SMW2yoshi.gif]] [[User:FanOfYoshi|Yoshi!]] [[ User talk:FanOfYoshi|Wanna discuss?]] [https://www.mariowiki.com/Special:Contributions/FanOfYoshi My contributions!] 14:12, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
::I already said no to that. tbh, I don't know why the one on ''[[Super Mario World]]'' exists, as most of the information relates to the characters. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 14:26, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
:::Hm, alright, in that case, I don't see why not. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 15:46, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== Better Yoshi's New Island pictures ==
 
I was looking for Frenetic Gamer's walkthrough and found a better quality. However, when i tried to upload the better quality one, it said that i couldn't overwrite the file. I guess this is because i'm not autoconfirmed yet. --[[File:SMW2yoshi.gif]] [[User:FanOfYoshi|Yoshi!]] [[ User talk:FanOfYoshi|Wanna discuss?]] [https://www.mariowiki.com/Special:Contributions/FanOfYoshi My contributions!] 14:41, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== Re: Thwomp and junk ==
 
Hmmm. I wonder if the artwork was from Yoshi's Island DS and not just Yoshi's Topsy Turvy... --[[File:SMW2yoshi.gif]] [[User:FanOfYoshi|Yoshi!]] [[ User talk:FanOfYoshi|Wanna discuss?]] [https://www.mariowiki.com/Special:Contributions/FanOfYoshi My contributions!] 03:48, 27 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== RE:signature form/from typo ==
 
Consider yourself lucky it wasn't ''teh'', or I'd have to sick Ultimate Dark Bowser on you. Or at least sue for copyright infringement. I take pride in weird things.<br>
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 20:55, 28 August 2018 (EDT)
:Thanks for the warning, but I never planned on watching any anyway. I'm extremely wary of YouTube and the internet in general.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 11:23, 30 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== RE:Body Slam ==
 
Unfortunately, there's [[Body Slam (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars)|another]] Body Slam used by more than one character, which appears to weaken your argument. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 21:42, 29 August 2018 (EDT)
:Yes, we ''do'' need consistency, since this makes it easier for newer readers to get familiar with searching on the site. Even Porplemontage disagrees with you. Also, how are the ''Wario Land II'' Ghosts exceptional? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 08:15, 30 August 2018 (EDT)
::Well, I moved {{fake link|Ghost (''Wario Land II'' boss)}} to [[Ghost (boss)]] since the game identifier is unnecessary (there's no other boss specifically named "Ghost"), though I won't be touching [[Ghost (Wario Land II enemy)|Ghost (''Wario Land II'' enemy)]] because it's being disambiguated with both the aforementioned boss from the same game ''and'' at least one other enemy named "[[Ghost (Donkey Kong 64)|Ghost]]". Also, to be a bit blunt, when have I said you should "always agree with Porplemontage"? I only said that he disagreed with you due to a message he actually left on his talk page saying he's not fond of your proposal, and never meant to say that "you are entitled to agree with him", especially since I've disagreed with him a few times before myself. Of course, when I get around to moving pages as per the new policy, I ''will'' leave behind redirects like "Jerry (Bob-omb)" or "Gary (Goomba)" just to make it easier on people like you. 😉 You're idea's definitely not a bad one, it in fact appears rational, it's just that consistency is actually more important than you'd think, especially when newer readers need to know how to navigate this site. Yes, some inconveniences are unavoidable, but I think it's better if we try to take the solution that has the most amount of rectifiable problems, such as the aforementioned redirects I said I would be leaving behind. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 15:15, 30 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== Yoshi's New Island: permission to reupload files. ==
 
Hello, i see you used in your project, photos you uploaded. Do i have the permission to reupload them myself for a better quality? Or you will do it on your own? Since you are the uploader, and since you putted them in your project, i don't know if i have the permission to reupload them or not. --[[File:SMW2yoshi.gif]] [[User:FanOfYoshi|Yoshi!]] [[ User talk:FanOfYoshi|Wanna discuss?]] [https://www.mariowiki.com/Special:Contributions/FanOfYoshi My contributions!] 11:58, 30 August 2018 (EDT)
 
==Speculation==
How speculation? I wrote in [[Kong Family]] accordingly the characters, [[Donkey Kong (series)| Donkey Kong's franchise]] events and quotes.
[[User:ChristopherPAraujo|ChristopherPAraujo]] ([[User talk:ChristopherPAraujo|talk]]) 21:28, 31 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== Re:gimp ==
 
I don't use gimp. I use LazPaint for artwork transparencies (for the sprite it will delete the generic black once the file is saved), for the sprites, i use Paint. This is why i don't put the transparency on sprites, but only for artwork. The generic black color will only be show up before you save the file... --[[File:SMW2yoshi.gif]] [[User:FanOfYoshi|FanOfYoshi]] [[ User talk:FanOfYoshi|Talk]] [https://www.mariowiki.com/Special:Contributions/FanOfYoshi Contribs] 13:44, 1 September 2018 (EDT)
 
== Solo Toady picture ==
 
Sorry for the very bad quality, i didn't find a walkthrough where it shows up. I don't have a perfect quality and in addition, i can't make screenshot in-game. I instead used the one from the Japanese manual. Is it ok? I must ask Wildgoosespeeder about what kind of quality Frenetic Gamer uses. He may know since he reuploaded the Big Metallic [[Lantern Ghost]] implying that he used HANS quality. But i don't think it's the HANS quality though. --[[File:SMW2yoshi.gif]] [[User:FanOfYoshi|FanOfYoshi]] [[ User talk:FanOfYoshi|Talk]] [https://www.mariowiki.com/Special:Contributions/FanOfYoshi Contribs] 14:52, 3 September 2018 (EDT)
:I actually own a Nintendo 2DS. --[[File:SMW2yoshi.gif]] [[User:FanOfYoshi|FanOfYoshi]] [[ User talk:FanOfYoshi|Talk]] [https://www.mariowiki.com/Special:Contributions/FanOfYoshi Contribs] 15:07, 3 September 2018 (EDT)
:::Yeah, i guess you're right, since the way he orientates himself in Transformation Doors, example being the Submarine. --[[File:SMW2yoshi.gif]] [[User:FanOfYoshi|FanOfYoshi]] [[ User talk:FanOfYoshi|Talk]] [https://www.mariowiki.com/Special:Contributions/FanOfYoshi Contribs] 15:15, 3 September 2018 (EDT)
::::Sorry, for raw code, i use the signature four ~ actually. And i use my own signature to remember when it was done. --{{user|FanOfYoshi}} 15:23, 3 September 2018 (EDT)
 
== RE:Dinosaur ==
 
If so, then where exactly does it appear? I need more info than just an image from Model's Resource. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 19:37, 5 September 2018 (EDT)
:That actually poses a problem, given that other species known simply as "Dinosaurs" appear, to name one, in the ''[[Super Mario Bros. (film)|Super Mario Bros.]]'' film. Any thoughts? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 19:55, 5 September 2018 (EDT)
::Well, since it ''does'' appear in multiple series, a "distinguishing feature" identifier ''would'' be appropriate for this case. I think "blue sauropod" might be better, though it looks grey to me, so maybe... "greyish blue sauropod" or just "sauropod"? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 20:03, 5 September 2018 (EDT)
 
== Uploading some files and adding redirections ==
 
Though i'm still uploading and reuploading files, i used Roger Lift as a redirection for [[Blarggwich]]. I should rip some sprites of them... --[[File:SMW2yoshi.gif]] [[User:FanOfYoshi|FanOfYoshi]] [[ User talk:FanOfYoshi|Talk]] [https://www.mariowiki.com/Special:Contributions/FanOfYoshi Contribs] 14:28, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
:As the one that reappears in Salvo's castle reuses the same eyes as Salvo, and the one in Sluggy's fort uses Blargg's eyes and eyebrows. I'm ripping some of those two using screenshot i made. --[[File:SMW2yoshi.gif]] [[User:FanOfYoshi|FanOfYoshi]] [[ User talk:FanOfYoshi|Talk]] [https://www.mariowiki.com/Special:Contributions/FanOfYoshi Contribs] 14:39, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
 
== 103 Stages ==
 
"A total of 103 stages are set to appear in the game." That's a bit misleading, actually. There 103 at the current count, but there's still room for more. Keeping in mind additional newcomers getting stages of their own, it's entirely possible for earlier stages not currently confirmed to return will as well. [[Poké Floats]] and [[Icicle Mountain]] still have a chance, though its unlikely [[Flat Zone]], [[Flat Zone 2]], and [[Pictochat]] will due to their new incarnations. The trivia would be more noteworthy once the entire line-up is established. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 21:59, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
:The Direct said there are currently 103 stages. Didn't say that was the final count. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 22:05, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
 
== Re:Hootie ==
 
I just reuploaded it. What do you think about it? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 00:11, 12 September 2018 (EDT)
About the Super FX2 Graphic Chip, sprites of Gargantua Blargg and Nep-Enut are ripped by each animation [https://www.spriters-resource.com/snes/yoshiisland/sheet/4792/ here]. Though, it isn't actually a sprite because it doesn't show up on the Advance sprite sheets. The SNES one may have been ripped from screenshot. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 00:20, 12 September 2018 (EDT) --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 00:20, 12 September 2018 (EDT) [[File:YNI Hootie the Blue Fish.png|thumb|left|There it is]]
:If you want to know, me neither, i don't understand Japanese. I'm learning, but it's hard to me. I saw your comment on Skull Box talk page. For the Red Skull Box talk page, [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] told me that the Super Mario Book was set to be released on October 23rd if it doesn't get cancelled or delayed again. It will contain the following enemies and objects:  falling slabs, Kaitensuru Honō, Genkotsu, Fire Jumping Piranha, Tenbōdai Course, Casino, most Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins enemies, Keronpa Ball, Pianta captain, Pianta Village mayor, Pinna Park director, Noki Elder, Noki Elder's grandson, Super Mario Galaxy "Tweester", Jump Garage/Guarder, Dai/Deka Anagon, Mini/Chibi Wanwan, Land Unizo, Obake Block, Obake Stand, RemoCon Clown, Whimp, Dai Gorō, Gūrindai, Skull Box, Red Skull Box, and possibly more. It will also tell if Moneybag is the actual name of the enemy or is it just that Prima is not official. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 00:31, 12 September 2018 (EDT)
::Ah! My bad, while editing, i didn't pay attention that it was the description from a guide. Is it ok? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 01:49, 12 September 2018 (EDT)
 
== Splitting Huffin Puffin ==
 
I checked history, and yes you are the one who added the split template. Can i be the one who splits? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:18, 13 September 2018 (EDT)
 
== RE: MTA official renders ==
 
The .jpg ones. They're bigger, but the .png ones have better quality and no unnecessary white space around them. They also match the other character images in the table. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 06:54, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
 
:Yes. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 20:50, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
 
== Speaking of sprite ripping and uploading ==
 
I see about the restricted emulator... I saw a section on your userpage, in which you uploaded files describing them funnily. May i have the permission to make a similar section on my userpage? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 14:19, 19 September 2018 (EDT)
 
== Castlevania and M-rated series ==
 
Okay, due to our little... "debate" on the Solid Snake page regarding the trivia section, I think I'll post a list of each game in the Bayonetta, Metal Gear, and Castlevania franchise, as well as what rating they were.
 
;Bayonetta
*Bayonetta (M)
*Bayonetta 2 (M)
 
;Metal Gear
*Metal Gear (M/NR)*
*Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake (M/NR)*
*Metal Gear Solid (M)
*Metal Gear: Ghost Babel (E)
*Metal Gear Solid: Integral (M)
*Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (M)
*Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance (M)
*Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes (M)
*Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (M)
*Metal Gear Acid (M)
*Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence (M)
*Metal Gear Acid 2 (M)
*Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops (M)
*Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops Plus (T)
*Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (M)
*Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker (T)
*Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance (M)
*Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater 3D (M)
*Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes (M)
*Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain (M)
*Metal Gear Solid V: The Definitive Experience (M)
*Metal Gear Survive (M)
 
<nowiki>*</nowiki>The games weren't rated at the initial release, although it is counted as an "M" rating due to being included in ''Subsistence''.
 
;Castlevania
*Castlevania/Vampire Killer (E)
*Castlevania II: Simon's Quest (E)
*Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse (E)
*Super Castlevania IV: (E)
*Castlevania Chronicles (T)
*Castlevania: Rondo of Blood (T*)
*Castlevania: Dracula X (K-A)
*Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (T)
*Castlevania Legends (K-A)
*Castlevania 64 (T)
*Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness (T)
*Castlevania: Circle of the Moon (T)
*Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance (T)
*Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow (T)
*Castlevania: Lament of Innocence (M)
*Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow (T)
*Castlevania: Curse of Darkness (M)
*Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin (T)
*Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles (T)
*Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia (T)
*Castlevania: Judgment (T)
*Castlevania: Harmony of Despair (T)
*Castlevania: Lords of Shadow (M)
*Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate (M)
*Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 (M)
<nowiki>*</nowiki>While it didn't have an ESRB rating until later on, it was later given this rating when put onto the Virtual Console)
 
As you can see, the Bayonetta franchise is exclusively M-rated games, with not even one game with a lower rating than that, whether E, E10, T, heck, even KA or EC. Metal Gear has a slightly better track record by having one E rated game and two T-rated games, but even that is majority M-rated games. By stark contrast, we only have two actual M-rated games in the Castlevania series, five if we count the Lords of Shadow games, while the vast majority are T-ratings, with a smattering of E or K-A in between (which depending on whether one counts the Lords of Shadow games either outnumbers/is equal to the M-rated games or is outnumbered by the same). Hence, Castlevania is ''not'' an M-rated franchise. At most, it's a T-rated franchise. So we can't count Simon and Richter Belmont and their franchise as an "M"-rated series. [[User:Weedle McHairybug|Weedle McHairybug]] ([[User talk:Weedle McHairybug|talk]]) 12:04, 22 September 2018 (EDT)
:The exact words of that Trivia point wasn't "a series with M-Rated games", it was "M-rated series". There's a difference between the two, as the former, as you said, has the mean being irrelevant (only requires that it at least have one M-rated game), while the latter has the mean being very much relevant due to it effectively implying just from the word choice that the vast majority, if not all of the games are M-rated. [[User:Weedle McHairybug|Weedle McHairybug]] ([[User talk:Weedle McHairybug|talk]]) 19:18, 22 September 2018 (EDT)
 
== Cream Crazee Dayzee petals ==
 
Actually, it's an used sprite with a palette that is not ever assigned to it in-game. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:59, 22 September 2018 (EDT)
 
== RE:Building World ==
 
See [[User talk:Porplemontage#Mario & Sonic Event pages identifiers|a related scenario]] for how he justified that the page title be this way. Plus, just including the system may actually just cause more confusion than it's worth. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 15:29, 26 September 2018 (EDT)
 
== RE:Citation professionalism ==
 
Not your fault, just something I noticed regarding all citations on the page. You're fine. ;) {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 18:12, 27 September 2018 (EDT)
:Unfortunately, Google Trends still can't yet process "bowsette" as a search term. We might just have to wait until a better source presents itself. Plus, it's still very young of a meme, so maybe more reliable sources will cover it over time. (At least KnowYourMeme covers it already, so maybe that can be used instead...?) {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 18:50, 27 September 2018 (EDT)
 
== Enjoy this while it lasts ==
 
[[File:Smb3 super leaf.png]][[File:Smb3 super leaf.png]][[File:Smb3 super leaf.png]]
 
[[Peachette|You're welcome]]. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 23:32, 27 September 2018 (EDT)
 
== RE: Super Crown revision ==
 
Talking about a body part in disturbing way (including caps lock), labels the reason.
{{User:L151/sig}}
 
"Inappropriate content" is one of the default selectable options so it's much faster to just select that as the catch-all instead of typing out the exact reason. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:06, 28 September 2018 (EDT)
:Ah, OK. Thanks! [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:12, 28 September 2018 (EDT)
 
== Re:Woozy Guy ==
 
[https://tcrf.net/File:SMW2BonusShy.gif This] animation? Well, it was intended to be for the normal Shy Guys. The sprites look nearly identical to Woozy Guys, but open-legs and mouth were instead used for the spear guys, Stretch uses copy of these. For the normal Shy Guy, well the open-leg and mouth, you see the additional black pixel? Well, this Shy Guy sprite was unused due to the black pixel. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:35, 2 October 2018 (EDT)
:Let's see. You mean you want to see the unused one moving like the final one? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:45, 2 October 2018 (EDT) [[File:Woozyguy.gif|thumb|left]] [[File:SMW2YI_-_Woozy_Guy.gif|thumb|right]]
 
== The VG Ressource ==
 
So as i understand, we should wait 4 days to pass before posting and everything (much like being autoconfirmed). However, you can't post comment in the VG ressource before doing so. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:29, 2 October 2018 (EDT)
:I mean i recently joined the VG ressource, and the only thing i can do is uploading. I can't comment on sprite sheets (there's a missing [[Dr. Freezegood]] in the normal enemies sprites for example). --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:30, 3 October 2018 (EDT)
::I usually look at SMA3 sheets, so SMA3 Freezegood is missing...  --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:55, 3 October 2018 (EDT)
:::Hmmm... What do you use to rip the sprites as separate eachother? (such as the tulip) And also, just ripping the sprites? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 03:02, 3 October 2018 (EDT)
 
 
== BJAODN ==
 
What was the problem [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:BJAODN/Enemies&diff=2502309&oldid=2502306 here]? {{User:VOIDTHIS/sig}} 14:30, 3 October 2018 (CEST)
 
== RE:Amoeba things ==
 
Well, I guess that makes sense, since it seems to happen for Luigi as well. I'll add it back. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 16:44, 6 October 2018 (EDT)
 
== RE:Transparency policy ==
 
First, why do you bring this up? Second, if it's not in the policy itself, then it's still dictated by [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 27#Artwork Transparency Issues|this proposal]]. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 02:36, 7 October 2018 (EDT)
:Again, why exactly do you bring this up? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 02:44, 7 October 2018 (EDT)
::Could you at least provide an example? Just so that I at least know what you're talking about? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 02:47, 7 October 2018 (EDT)
 
== Re: Super Mario Land (series) ==
 
My idea was turning it into a disambiguation page, much like the ''New Super Mario Bros.'' series currently has. I don't think we need pages for sub-series of sub-series, since most ''Super Mario'' titles fall into one of those (''Bros.'', ''Land'', ''New Super'', ''Galaxy'', ''3D''), but a disambiguation page could help clear up some of the confusion. Admittedly, the whole status of the ''Super Mario Land'' games is kinda confusing, but I feel that it'll be for the better once we escape this weird transitional period. --[[User:CompliensCreator|CompliensCreator]] ([[User talk:CompliensCreator|talk]]) 13:58, 8 October 2018 (EDT)
:Is there anything officially connecting those to the ''Donkey Kong Country'' games? If not, keep them on their own page for the time being. If there's a source that confirms them to be part of the ''Donkey Kong Country'' series, however, I say merge those titles into that. --[[User:CompliensCreator|CompliensCreator]] ([[User talk:CompliensCreator|talk]]) 14:07, 8 October 2018 (EDT)
 
 
==re: First ban = 1 week? ==
 
I'll be honest here: the subject of ban length was brought up in the community discord and the topic naturally spilled over to TTA's ban. Agreeing with the notion that 2 weeks may be a little too lengthy as a first time ban for a well-meaning veteran contributor, I (''too'') quickly made the decision to lower it without really consulting anyone beside the one other sysop that was in the room at the time. When I came back this morning, other admins pointed out to me that [[MarioWiki:Blocking policy]] states 2 weeks for the exact scenario at hand and that you had been given the full two weeks ban for it.
 
So yeah, ''I'' messed up. I regret not doing the same when you were blocked, or take yours into the account before making my decision. I realize apologies may not mean much because the whole situation really is quite unfair to you, and for that I am truly sorry. But over the coming weeks, I'll try to make the case to halve the sentence precognized by the blocking policy because I really do think two weeks instead of one is  a bit much for the first block of a veteran editor, wheter it's you, Toadette the Achiever, or anyone else. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 11:48, 16 October 2018 (EDT)
 
== RE: Donkey Kong Land 2 ==
 
I'm only going to do the "Items and objects" section on its page. Right now, I'm just doing GB sprites. I have 10/17 sprites for the page so far. [[User:Scrooge200|Scrooge200]] ([[User talk:Scrooge200|talk]]) 23:20, 17 October 2018 (EDT)
 
== Re: Super Mario Advance unused sprites ==
 
Actually, TCRF [https://tcrf.net/Super_Mario_Advance#Unused_Enemies says the palette's real]. [[User:Niiue|Niiue]] ([[User talk:Niiue|talk]]) 04:40, 18 October 2018 (EDT)
 
== [[Toad#Luigi's Mansion]] ==
 
So which one is [[Toad]]? The one in the foyer? {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 00:52, 20 October 2018 (EDT)
 
:The manual also says "Speak to Toad" under "How to Save", and the website refers to him (at least the one in the foyer) as such as well. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 01:20, 20 October 2018 (EDT)
 
::I know, I'm talking about the "How to Save" heading on the same page. Though it could just be how they refer to any Toad so nvm I guess. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 02:22, 20 October 2018 (EDT)
 
== Stool pigeon userbox ==
 
Do i have the permission to use it? It's true that i'm removing vandalism from other I.P.s and reporting them. Can i use this userbox? Thanks! --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:40, 20 October 2018 (EDT)
:Also, i uploaed the YNI [[Dancing Spear Guy]]s in both yellow and pink. You prefered it without an identifier just like [[Harry Hedgehog]]? Also, don't forget to change the red link from Beanie (Yoshi's New Island) to Mame-san in your project page. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 14:02, 20 October 2018 (EDT)
 
==re:your Jumpman entry on the Urban Legends page==
 
The claim that "''the name "Jumpman" in regards to this game was only ever used in the American cabinet operation manual intended solely for arcade owners and employees''" is not quite true: "Jumpman" is also used multiple times in the [https://imgur.com/GgGz1gn marquee card] that came with some iterations of the cabinet (it's taped to the side of [https://www.arcade-museum.com/images/107/1076953837.jpg the cocktail cabinet for instance]) where it's more clearly a proper name. There's some merit to having an entry about how the "Mario was originally Jumpman!!" thing is a bit overstated so I'll let you edit the entry accordingly. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 10:22, 22 October 2018 (EDT)
 
== RE:Knitted rope and bjaodn cote ==
 
Thanks, that's nice of you. Everyone needs a good ol' improvement. Even to this day, I'm still trying to improve my language skills. -- {{User:Super Radio/Sig}} 16:17, 22 October 2018 (EDT)
 
== RE:Hi ==
 
Yeah, that was clear enough from the start. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 13:11, 23 October 2018 (EDT)
 
== Encyclopedia ==
 
With [[MarioWiki:Proposals#Citing_the_Super_Mario_Encyclopedia|this proposal]] underway concerning the Super Mario Encyclopedia, please hold off from making any edits to the wiki regarding any information contained within it. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 17:52, 23 October 2018 (EDT)
 
==RE:SMBE==
It seems my hopes over the year-long delay were unfortunately unfounded, but I certainly didn't think it'd be deemed bad enough that we'd actually consider disowning it... That's a new one. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 20:47, 23 October 2018 (EDT)
 
== Re: "The enemy names [you] made up as a kid" ==
 
Hah, still better than the time I [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Pile_Driver_Micro-Goomba&diff=460362&oldid=442186 claimed a Mario enemy appeared in Sonic 3]. <s>In my defense, I actually did think they were the same thing when I was 9.</s>
 
On that note, I think my favorite Mini-Niiue edit is probably [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Charmy_Bee&diff=504065&oldid=459836 this gem]. [[User:Niiue|Niiue]] ([[User talk:Niiue|talk]]) 05:33, 25 October 2018 (EDT)
 
== Re: Admins and vandals ==
 
You mean that when a talk page is vandalized, it gets an enerrous message to tell that we got a new message? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 01:40, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
 
== Species ==
 
There was [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_47#Do_Something_With_Game-Specific_Species_Categories|a proposal]] to use the species category for non-hostile species only, to avoid overlap with the enemy categories. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 12:20, 30 October 2018 (EDT)
:The point of the proposal was that for the purposes of categorization, species and enemies are distinct from each other. Otherwise a plethora of pages would be on the species category. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 12:26, 30 October 2018 (EDT)
::There's a reason that [[:Category:Donkey Kong Species]], [[:Category:Wario Species]], and [[:Category:Yoshi Species]] are under the list of affected categories. The birds category is in no way relevant to that proposal. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 12:35, 30 October 2018 (EDT)
:::None of the taxonomic categories are relevant to that proposal. They aren't even brought up within it. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 12:38, 30 October 2018 (EDT)
::::I'm going to be honest: I do not understand the points you're bringing up, nor how they relate to this proposal. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 12:43, 30 October 2018 (EDT)
:::::How? It's not valid information since enemies and species are distinct, and the point of the proposal was to exempt enemies from species categories. I should know, the proposal stems from a discussion between Niiue and I. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 12:47, 30 October 2018 (EDT)
::::::There's a reason that the voting options only stated "species categories" and nothing more specific than that. The language of the proposal primarily discusses game-specific species because those were the most prevalent categories, but saying that every enemy necessarily needs to appear in the main species category on a technicality is unhelpful. And what do you mean by "wide range of meanings"? The meaning of the categories was exactly what was voted on. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 12:57, 30 October 2018 (EDT)
 
To be frank, your arguments are leaving me confused with how many haphazard elements are being brought up without a natural cohesion between them (especially when bosses are [[:Category:Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story Bosses|subcategorized]] under characters which isn't even relevant to this discussion). The original proposal is what it is; if you want to argue against it, the best way to do that would be to lay out all of your arguments in a proposal. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 13:06, 30 October 2018 (EDT)
:Unless you plan to add every single enemy to the top-level species category, you're taking a technicality to an extreme. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 13:21, 30 October 2018 (EDT)
::They were outliers that were missed in the [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Chain_Chawful&diff=prev&oldid=2124886 previous round] of clean-up. They weren't specially exempted. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 13:26, 30 October 2018 (EDT)
:::That's still not relevant to that proposal. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 13:46, 30 October 2018 (EDT)
 
== RE:Yoshi's Island Spring Water ==
 
Eh, okay... I'll leave that redirect alone, then. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 19:12, 1 November 2018 (EDT)
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