Talk:Shell: Difference between revisions

==Half-merging potential==

So, in many games, the color of the shell itself means jack diddly squat. Yet we still have those appearances split out. Even worse, some appearances for yellow and blue particularly amount to "there's a Koopa with this shell color." I think that in games where no functional difference is to be had, they should be merged simply to "shell" or "Koopa shell," with the color ones remaining for instances they are actually distinct. It might come off as a little confusing at first, but it's better than the weird padded redundancy we have now. For reference, the ones that would stay with splits are at least SMW, SMG, the MK games, the SSB games, PMSS, and some other "sports" games. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:47, February 22, 2020 (EST)

::Could you provide a specific list of information that would be merged and information that would not be merged? Ex: {{br}}

==Create a generic {{fake link|Koopa Shell}} article, reorganize the colored shell articles==

One thing that has bothered me for years on end is that we don't have a proper Koopa Shell article on MarioWiki that documents regular shells. Currently, we document the shell's appearances in the colored shells article, but I feel like it's unoptimal, main reason of course is that it violates our [[MarioWiki:Once and only once|once and only once]] policy, as lot of information between the shell colors are redundant. Furthermore, the aforementioned shells in the colored shell articles were ''never'' given the name "Green Shell" but rather are called by their generic "shell" moniker, which correlates to the color of Koopa Troopa than anything else, really, and we don't split the Koopa Troopas.

#{{User|Ray Trace}}

#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Shell yes.

====Oppose====

====Comments====

I've noticed ''[[Paper Mario: Sticker Star]]'' had a strange consistency where there are different shells with different powers but Green Shell is still just called "Shell". Should this be moved to the Shell article or kept in the Green Shell while other variations are mentioned in the colored articles? {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 17:18, August 15, 2021 (EDT)

:I would say if there's multiple variants with gameplay distinctions then they should remain on the colored shell articles regardless of the naming. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 17:23, August 15, 2021 (EDT)

As I said above, I don't think the Super Mario World shells should be split. The big difference between them is that they give different powers when eaten by a Yoshi, right? But the different Yoshis also get different powers when eating shells, and those are all on one page... [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 17:25, August 15, 2021 (EDT)

:I can see that as a possibility though what factored into this decision is that in the context of the Mario franchise, Red Shells had more distinct gameplay appearances than Red Yoshis and Red Koopa Troopas do, and technically, granting a Yoshi its powers (even Yellow and Blue Yoshis still spit fire from red shells) is something that is as distinct as making red shells target people. In the ''Super Mario World'' instruction manual, they aren't proper nouns, however, so that's an argument to keep them in the Koopa Shell article. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 17:57, August 15, 2021 (EDT)