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Re:Grinder/Ukiki

Well, technically, your message got to me a minute too late, but I'm not such a stickler for the rules that I won't say "eh, close enough" (plus, admins are allowed to veto things after the fact if we want, anyway, so w/e, there's many reasons for it to be doable). Anyway, once I'm done here, I'll go cancel it to make way for a full move proposal. And in regards to your other question, since you'd have to move the stuff by manually cutting and pasting, the corresponding page history would have to stay here, which is less than ideal. However, this method of archiving is allowed as long as you only do it sparingly (it's discussed on MW:Userpsace, if you're curious), so feel free to move the extra 2014 stuff if you want. - Walk azo 19:19, 5 January 2015 (EST)

Re:Little Mouser / Mowz

Thanks for telling me; I've changed my vote since, as other have said, Little Mouser appears to be the latest and most commonly used name. Chocolate Mario (talk) 11:59, 9 January 2015 (EST)

Fire Bro.

All I know right now is that it's spelled "Fire Bro." in Super Mario 3D World.

Really it's just me feeling the spelling with the period is the most common.

-Toa 95 (talk)

The name doesn't show up in Captain Toad and as far as I know there isn't a trophy or anything in the latest Smash Bros., though the latest spelling actually would be without the period apparently, according to Mario Golf: World Tour, unless they're mentioned in the Mario Kart 8 strategy guide just in a throwaway line for a description of Bowser's Castle mentioning how they show up or something. At the same time, I also don't know if uses with the period outweigh those without.

-Toa 95 (talk)

Seeing as how it's used in the Smash Bros. trophy, not entirely.

-Toa 95 (talk)

Well... huh... I could have sworn it was... I guess I'm just used to that spelling...

-Toa 95 (talk)

Super Mario "Big Dictionary"

Is that an official site? From what I can tell, it's a fansite and, though its cache of WL4 names are reportedly good, the same can't be said for Yoshi Touch & Go, the Propeller Mūcho's game of origin. I don't want to create any facts from erroneously citing something. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

Not allowing email responses would be going too far. You're implying that the user supplying the email could be making it up (if I'm wrong on this, please correct me), but going in with the idea of "don't trust the editor" is ludicrous for an editor-driven site. If a brand-new account is claiming this, sure, but any other user should be perfectly allowed to provide emails that reveal information. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

re:Old Guide Question

The content is uploaded for informative purpose, so yeah, sure. --Glowsquid (talk) 12:45, 25 January 2015 (EST)

Proper nouns

Hi, I've noticed you moved a few enemy names to be lowercase based on their spelling in the level titles, but MarioWiki:Naming actually states that proper nouns (like enemy names) should always be capitalized regardless of what the source did. This is mainly for consistency (the vast majority of enemy names are capitalized, so having the odd lowercase name would stick out and look strange), but also clarity within the articles (so the names stand out). The Mario series is pretty dreadful when it comes to being consistent with its names, so we take some liberties where we can to avoid being similarly all over the map, at least for grey areas like capitalization. I'm not sure about the level names themselves, but the enemy names we extract from them should definitely be left uppercase. I hope you understand. - Walk azo 13:10, 29 January 2015 (EST)

I'd actually forgotten we had it written down somewhere at first myself: I remembered discussing it, but only after checking the proposal archives turned up nothing did I think to look at the actual policy page... My knee-jerk reaction is to capitalize everything always, but that's probably just me (hence I made sure to check for neutral policy before saying anything). The level titles are more like phrases than isolated proper nouns like the enemy names (and also don't tend to appear outside of game-specific lists), so I think it should be okay if they're lowercase - the hope being that the games at last have internal consistency about how they write the titles, of course. - Walk azo 14:22, 29 January 2015 (EST)

My guess is that it's the exclamation marks. Pretty sure it won't stop me from moving them, so give me a list of the pending renames and I'll do what I can. I'll also fix the talk page issues: if there's anything besides a redirect back to the being-moved page on the destination page (including delete templates), it'll block the move, hence some of them won't go through. - Walk azo 11:01, 30 January 2015 (EST)

Okay, pretty sure I did them all correctly. Does Invade Wario Castle also need to be moved? Also, I wonder if it'd be better if Defeat the giant spear man (Go to the cellar) and Stop that train! (Go to the cellar) had exclamation marks in the identifiers, seeing as the chapter name (Go to the cellar!!) does. Also, is it really "Ruins at the Bottom of the sea"? All the other chapter names remain uppercase, so this halfway-lowercase title seems rather bizarre... - Walk azo 19:30, 30 January 2015 (EST)

I guess it makes sense that they're treating Wario Castle as a proper name, same with Syrup Castle, but yeah, that "Bottom of the sea" is cringe-worthy (same with "the Syrup's treasure", for that matter - Engrish is fun until it gets into the page names). The lack of consistency in the chapter titles is also regrettable. I really want to smooth both matters out just to make things easier on the eyes and memory, rather than forcing folks to try to keep track of which isolated ones are the exceptions to the capitalization rules... - Walk azo 21:42, 30 January 2015 (EST)

Or maybe they just changed the graphics and didn't really pay attention to the text and whatnot that didn't need to be converted. It's pretty easy to miss little extraneous things like that when you're focused on a given task. I wish the Japanese name related to Syrup so we could figure out what was meant there, but alas, that part doesn't seem to be a translation at all. - Walk azo 00:23, 31 January 2015 (EST)

A mistranslation of Syrup-tachi is definitely be plausible for the first screen. Moving the "Time Attack" to the Story label position of the level title screen might've been to try and fill the space more evenly, but even so, you'd think "steal the treasure" on its own would be wordy enough for the name. And at the same time, I feel like there isn't really enough room in the Japanese page for　シロップたちの to be added to the treasure part (but maybe I'm underestimating, idk). Whatever happened there, it's an interesting little quirk. - Walk azo 19:19, 1 February 2015 (EST)

Captain Falcon

re this: I've heard the "leading site" in question is the official english site for F-Zero X, but I've been unable to locate the url for that one (and apparently wayback archive doesn't have it archived). Wish I had someone to sleuth this case. --Glowsquid (talk) 22:01, 12 February 2015 (EST)

One of the characteristics about Captain Falcon is that nobody knows anything about him; he's from Port Town, he's an amazing bounty hunter, and that's it. Honestly, I doubt that any official site would casually drop his full name. From what sleuthing I've done, his first and last "names" first popped up on Wikipedia in 2005, from a user who popped up for one day and that's it. His middle name was actually later added by an IP who mostly made minor, but still reputable, edits throughout 2005. Neither of them provided a source. The name was later removed for being unsourced... in 2014. It seems to me that the damage had already been done. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

If it's official, then signs definitely point to "a leading but defunct website" being the F-Zero X one, but the legitimacy of it is in question when it was silently added to Wikipedia as late as 2005 if the original site had been down for years (and the site doesn't appear to have any backups, nor does wayback seem to help). This also spread to the Spanish, Italian, and even Japanese Wikipedia (the latter contributes this to the North American localization, but again fails to adequately specify), as well as various wiki sites in other languages. I'm thinking this is just a big game of messenger, but it could be that the exact source, if it indeed existed, may very well be lost. Since there is no real way to verify...best to treat this as a rumor. LinkTheLefty (talk) 13:20, 13 February 2015 (EST)

Re:Doki Doki Panic Images

Yeah, those images are indeed redundant, and in general, it's always best to avoid cropped chunks of images whenever possible (although I can't remember where or when that discussion was held on the wiki/forums). I agree that it'd be best if those six images (inducing Wart) were deleted and replaced with full images from the manual (nice find, by the way). - Walk azo 19:41, 15 March 2015 (EDT)

Boss sumo bro. page

Just fyi, I created the {{pageneeded}} template precisely because all the pages whose name source is only a vague "comes from the Prima/Nintendo Power guide" are grouped in one category. --Glowsquid (talk) 20:45, 21 March 2015 (EDT)

Re: Fan Images

I'm pretty sure they're officially, all I did was give them transparency, so I just gave them credit to uploading the original files on the wiki. :p --U M 3 000

Yeah, I can see why you you got confused there. Blame 2011 UM for that!--U M 3 000

Boss Bro

According to the guide, there shouldn't be a period. Here's the context: "Quickly jump up and stomp Boss Sumo Bro while he’s stunned, and stomp the big brute three times to put him down for the count!" Hello, I'm Time Turner.

re:Image Sorting

Yeah, using these templates for images is acceptable. --Glowsquid (talk) 09:17, 28 March 2015 (EDT)

Names in other languages

While tagging all the things requiring references is really great and hugely appreciated, it'd be better to leave the "Names in other languages" sections intact. The romanizations aren't always the same as the page names and the templates give a nice, natural place to put the etymology, rather than cluttering up the first line with kana and parentheticals (and/or jamming it haphazardly in somewhere else in the page). They also help fill space on what are often teeny articles otherwise, are consistent with pages that have Japanese (or whatever) names in addition to the English name, and will need to be restored anyway if more names are ever uncovered. (In fact, there has been some discussion about putting a kibosh on moving any more pages to unconfirmed Japanese names, and instead leaving them with the conjectural English names until there's proof we're not just exchanging one made-up term for another, but it's still to be decided for sure.) In any case, it's really best to not systematically remove entire sections from articles, at least not with prior discussion and approval. - Walk azo 01:30, 10 April 2015 (EDT)

Those are the pages that fell through the cracks (they're often lower traffic pages, and most people who do see them don't care or are too busy with other maintenance projects to try and take on an extra task, methinks). Anyway, I've periodically wondered about proposing we make the sections for the names in general and include English down there too: it'd be good for PAL vs NA situations, for name inconsistencies and changes, and for explaining the name without resorting to Trivia sections or trying to insert it somewhere in the intro. But whether it's repurposed and renamed "Etymology" or plain "Names" (as I've been considering) or whatever, it'd be a big, hairy maintenance project, so I've just been mulling it on the backburner for the time being: there's enough that already needs fixing up on any given day around here... Anyway, thanks for understanding. - Walk azo 02:12, 10 April 2015 (EDT)

re:About Proposals

When I made that comment, I was referring to the Head Block page exclusively and not making a general statement about your other TPPs created at that time. An item that serves the same function and has the same name as the target page in its latest appearance is a pretty clear/cut case, methink. --Glowsquid (talk) 09:55, 18 April 2015 (EDT)

I agree, though I apply this to both the Head Block and Checkered Block. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

I'd still say that having less proposals to take care of at the same time really helps when you have to make all the maintenance edits (link edits and whatnot). Hello, I'm Time Turner.

I suppose. The proposal page states "Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.". --Glowsquid (talk) 11:40, 18 April 2015 (EDT)

Re: About Snifit Police...

Hmmm, hard to say... Since it's such a contentious issue and has had so many proposals about it already, part of me feels like it should still be changed via TPP if possible even though it's backed by policy. If the "police"/"patrol" thing wasn't a factor, I'd say at least ride it out until the 23rd to see if it'll swing in your favour this time, but it'd be dishonest to move it to "patrol" when the TPP's for "police", so maybe yank it now instead on those grounds, and then replace it with one of two options. Option one is making a regular {{talk}} section saying "hey guys, we have the solid info now, and policy says we hafta do this, so..." and then a couple admins and other users will hopefully breeze in and agree, and then the page can be moved with clearly documented back-up after a few days, hopefully without much backlash. OR, option two is making a new TPP now advocating for the correct "Snifit Patrol" title: if it passes, it'll be stronger argument backing up the move, but even proposal rulings are challenged sometimes, and people might not appreciate another TTP, on that matter or in general. Either way, the text should be a clear and succinct summary of all the info that's been dribbling in (i.e. the fact that the VC name is endorsed by policy, how the Para Galoomba stuff already sets a precedent for mis-matched canon titles, and the notion that "Snufit Patrol" is unverified to begin with). There's pros and cons to both approaches to the matter, but the more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards the informal talk page discussion option, but I'm not 100% sure either way. - Walk azo 20:43, 19 April 2015 (EDT)

Spiny Fish

Random question: what's your source for the Japanese name of the Spiny Fish, since you added it in? Hello, I'm Time Turner.

re:here

The SMB movie webcomic sequel is in a pretty unique situation, and could create more conflict if some hardcore SMB movie fan (lol) come here and says "but the canon webcomic sequel says [x]". I thought of making a forum thread about what to do with it, and this recent edit may have given me the motivation to do so... I'll probably make a thread before going to bed. [edit: it's up --Glowsquid (talk) 20:20, 1 May 2015 (EDT)

Yeah, that was my thought and the concensus in that thread too. mostly I wanted something to link to incase someone tries to cite that webcomic. --Glowsquid (talk) 18:11, 3 May 2015 (EDT)

"FDS" official?

Can I get some confirmation on this? I have never seen any abbreviation anywhere official. The best I've found is that Nintendo runs an old Disk System page with part of the URL being "fc_disk". I'm not sure an NoA source can really be trusted for this (old NoA is sketchy, and new NoA will just retroactively take and use whatever people use), but even that would help. 75.177.119.25 18:11, 2 May 2015 (EDT)

In the English script, console of origin is never listed. In the Japanese script, "FCD" is used, which explains why I see it as much as I do. The English scripts for the various games also use "Famicom Disk System" and always treats localizations as better than the original releases, so any info from those would be sketchy. 75.177.119.25 20:25, 4 May 2015 (EDT)

While I would much prefer "FCDS"--it's obviously more accurate to the actual phrase--I'm not really opposed to "FCD" being official. It's still way more accurate than "FDS"!

Unfortunately, I cannot open an account at this time. 75.177.119.25 19:17, 14 May 2015 (EDT)

RE: Big Fire Piranha Plant

The NSMB2 guide refers to the fire-shooty ones as "Venus Fire Traps", and its larger counterpart "Big Venus Fire Traps". Hello, I'm Time Turner.

I moved it just to match. I'll move it to Piranha Flower since the in-game name is the most reliable source. YoshiCookie (talk) 11:33, 7 May 2015 (EDT)

Re: Bone Piranhas

I got all those names from the NSMB2 Prima Guide and I'm sure I said that when I moved them in the first place. I can provide a picture as proof if I need it. Tails777 Talk to me!

Yeah, no problem. Just saying, I can't actually scan it, but either way it's all worked out. Though on the topic of the whole Big Fire Piranha Plant thing, the guide also lists them off as Big Venus Fire Traps (Venus Fire Trap for smaller counterparts). I don't know if that's useful to you or not, but I thought I'd pull that up just in case.

Tails777 Talk to me!

Re: About Scuttle Bug

My guide was in tatters the last time I saw it and lost somewhere right now, but I'll see what I can do. I'm not exactly sure what happened with Spoing and Sprangler, and I don't think there's a proposal reversing it. --Vommack (talk) 18:14, 17 May 2015 (EDT)

Names

Hello there! I've been compiling a giant list of every name that's conjectural, not cited, or not in English (because boredom is the best motivator). I know you have access to at least the SM64 guide, and hopefully other ones, so whenever you can, could you go through the list and see if any of the listed items are given names in the guides? Thanks! Hello, I'm Time Turner.

The end goal is the same for all of them, and I'm not intending for the list to be the superofficial list of all unofficial names; it's just a handy guide on what to research for me and anyone who wants to chip in. Organizing everything into different classes seems like an unnecessary step; if I already have access to a guide, I'm going to look into all of the names that might be there, regardless of whether or not it's a foreign name or a [citation needed] name or whatnot. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

Even if it seems really pointless, it couldn't hurt to look out for sources. At the very least, M&W is there so that I don't look through the categories again and think, "Hm, wonder why that article isn't there?" and then I click on it and it's an M&W article and I've wasted a bit of my time. Thank you for the Buddy Barrel source, though!

In regards to Blurp, I went off of what was presented in the article. There's a source for the name "Blurp" right below a request for a citation for the name "Blurp," so I made a connection. I generally don't like to involve myself in the stuff involving aquatic enemies (seriously, you'd think that every fish in the series is just a Cheep Cheep), so you'd probably have better luck discussing what to do with that article with someone else.

Yep, thought you were blanking it, since you pretty much were blanking it. I've only seen the dash used when the names were identical or nearly between languages, and I mean letter-for-letter (see here and here for examples). Language can be fickle, so if the name is clearly non-English, it's generally better to write it out. Think of it like this: assuming that I have no knowledge in French, someone telling me that "Goomba" is French for "Goomba" is rather redundant, while someone telling me that "Lance Marto" is French for "Hammer Throw" is useful even though Hammer Throw is already the English name. On that point, translations can also vary from person to person, since Lance Marto can be literally read as "Throw Hammer," so presenting one translation is neater for organization's sake. One could even bring up the multiple interpretations in cases of ambiguity or when discussions might pop up as demonstrated by Walkazo). In short, leave the dash for the really obvious translations. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

Holy Blargg, indeed. I'm not exactly in the best of conditions right now, and I'm certainly not up for any editing, but I just wanna let you know that I've (tried my best to) read through your message. If you haven't already, could you make some of those moves you were talking about? Hello, I'm Time Turner.

So, I'm in slightly-better-but-not-really condition right now, and I've made pretty much all of the changes you mentioned (though I'm still in the process of fully updating the list). On a side note, I don't think unofficial names from a hack count. Actually, I wanted to ask you a question about another name-related matter: the Super Mario Land 2 enemies! I've already made a few moves based on an issue of Nintendo Power, but I have a habit of both reading things too quickly and being cautious when it comes to attaching names to things. The relevant pages are here; I was hoping you could read through them and see if there's anything I've missed. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

re:name

ok, sourced the unambiguous names. "pillars" are in lowercase, and the one page I found mentioning the cannon pipes call them "pipe cannons" in the one page I found, but I don't remember in which levels those appear in. --Glowsquid (talk) 10:40, 21 May 2015 (EDT)

About the Bro. comment

Hello, Smasher345 here. I just logged into my account on Gamefaqs since forever and just noticed you messaged me about the boss sumo bro from the Prima guide. Sorry about that, I haven't been active for a while, I was kinda busy. Anyway, about the period, don't worry about it, I'm going to double check that, though it might be hard since I never really had the guide book. I read the guidebook at a Best Buy store that was not wrapped up allowing me to open it and read it, which is where I got the name of Boss Sumo Bro. But I'll try my best to see if the period is really there, unless someone else has already done it. Sorry for the late reply. Smasher345 21:13, 16 June 2015 (EDT)

Re:Cat Marios

I believe I created the article out of a red link, I didn't actually name it myself. It was there as early as pre-release date. Golden Statue Mario is named in this revision. I don't want to dig up where Lucky Cat Mario was named but I believe I followed a red link and created the article there. Ray Trace^(T|C) 01:16, 28 June 2015 (EDT)

Well what I meant to say is that it was originally red-linked (since the article didn't exist at the time) and added by other users, all I did was create the page. If it's not the official name, feel free to move it. It was named prior to the game's release anyway.

Ray Trace^(T|C) 04:51, 28 June 2015 (EDT)

User talk:LinkTheLefty/Archive 2: Difference between revisions

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Re:Grinder/Ukiki

Re:Little Mouser / Mowz

Fire Bro.

Super Mario "Big Dictionary"

re:Old Guide Question

Proper nouns

Captain Falcon

Re:Doki Doki Panic Images

Boss sumo bro. page

Re: Fan Images

Boss Bro

re:Image Sorting

Names in other languages

re:About Proposals

Re: About Snifit Police...

Spiny Fish

re:here

"FDS" official?

RE: Big Fire Piranha Plant

Re: Bone Piranhas

Re: About Scuttle Bug

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+== Re:Grinder/Ukiki ==
+Well, technically, your message got to me a minute too late, but I'm not ''such'' a stickler for the rules that I won't say "eh, close enough" (plus, admins are allowed to veto things after the fact if we want, anyway, so w/e, there's many reasons for it to be doable). Anyway, once I'm done here, I'll go cancel it to make way for a full move proposal. And in regards to your other question, since you'd have to move the stuff by manually cutting and pasting, the corresponding page history would have to stay here, which is less than ideal. However, this method of archiving ''is'' allowed as long as you only do it sparingly (it's discussed on [[MarioWiki:Userspace#What_can_I_have_on_my_user_talk_page.3F|MW:Userpsace]], if you're curious), so feel free to move the extra 2014 stuff if you want. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 19:19, 5 January 2015 (EST)
+== Re:Little Mouser / Mowz ==
-This is a list of profiles and statistics for Bowser.
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+Thanks for telling me; I've changed my vote since, as other have said, [[Little Mouser]] appears to be the latest and most commonly used name. [[User:Chocolate Mario|Chocolate Mario]] ([[User talk:Chocolate Mario|talk]]) 11:59, 9 January 2015 (EST)
-Nintendo Character Guide (1993)
-Super Mario series
-.1 Super Mario Bros.
-.2 New Super Mario Bros. Wii
-.3 Super Mario 3D Land
-.4 New Super Mario Bros. 2
-.5 New Super Mario Bros. U
-The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 Writers Bible Bio
-Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
-Mario Tennis series
-.1 Mario Tennis
-.2 Mario Tennis Open
-Paper Mario series
-.1 Paper Mario
-.2 Super Paper Mario Catch Cards
-.3 Paper Mario: Sticker Star
-Mario Kart series
-.1 Mario Kart: Super Circuit
-.2 Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
-.3 Mario Kart DS
-.4 Mario Kart Wii
-.5 Mario Kart 7
-.6 Mario Kart 8
-Super Smash Bros. series
-.1 Super Smash Bros. Melee
-.1.1 Trophies
-.2 Super Smash Bros. Brawl
-.2.1 Snake's codec conversation
-.2.2 Trophies
-.2.3 Stickers
-.2.4 Prima rating
-.3 Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS Trophies
-.4 Super Smash Bros. for Wii U
-.4.1 Palutena's Guidance
-.4.2 Trophies
-Mario Golf series
-.1 Mario Golf
-.2 Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour
-Mario Party series
-.1 Mario Party Advance
-.2 Mario Party DS
-.2.1 Character trophy
-.2.2 Boss trophy
-.2.3 Badge
-.3 Mario Party 9
-.4 Mario Party 10
-Mario Baseball series
-.1 Mario Superstar Baseball
-.2 Mario Super Sluggers
-.2.1 Chemistry
-.2.2 Online card bio
-Mario Hoops 3-on-3
-Mario Strikers Charged
-Mario & Sonic series
-.1 Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
-.1.1 Profile
-.1.2 Stats
-.2 Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games
-.2.1 Profile
-.2.2 Wii stats
-.2.3 DS stats
-.3 Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games
-.3.1 Profile
-.3.2 Statistics
-.4 Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games
-Mario & Luigi series
-.1 Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
-.2 Mario & Luigi: Dream Team
-Mario Sports Mix
-Fortune Street
-Nintendo Character Guide (1993)[edit]
-"Bowser" King of the Koopas
-His evil magic is powerful, but it has not helped Bowser make friends. The fact is, even the other Koopa's hate and fear him. He decided to conquer the Mushroom Kingdom because he could not stand the idea of happy fungi.
-Super Mario series[edit]
+== Fire Bro. ==
-Super Mario Bros.[edit]
-Manual Description: "The sorcerer king holding Princess Toadstool captive in the last castle. He comes at you spitting fire. There are several ways to kill him, but you only get points if you use fireballs."
-New Super Mario Bros. Wii[edit]
+All I know right now is that it's spelled "Fire Bro." in ''[[Super Mario 3D World]]''.
-European Website Bio: "The flame-haired, fire-breathing King of the Koopas could never be described as a quitter. For every failed attempt to hold Princess Peach captive, Bowser seems to have five more schemes up his sizeable sleeve. Could his latest plot finally see him getting the better of Mario?"
-Super Mario 3D Land[edit]
-Website Bio: "The dastardly King of the Koopas is making Mario's life difficult again. He'll spit fireballs, shake the ground, and throw whatever he can get his hands on to keep you from getting Princess Peach."
-New Super Mario Bros. 2[edit]
+Really it's just me feeling the spelling with the period is the most common.
-Website Bio: "The colossal King of the Koopas is up to no good again—and with the Koopalings in tow, he might be unstoppable... Can you make it all the way to his castle?"
-New Super Mario Bros. U[edit]
+-[[User:Toa 95|Toa 95]] ([[User talk:Toa 95|talk]])
-Website Bio: "With a fearsome fleet of airships at his disposal, Bowser and his cohorts have decided to mount an attack right on the heroes' home turf."
-The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 Writers Bible Bio[edit]
+The name doesn't show up in ''Captain Toad'' and as far as I know there isn't a trophy or anything in the latest ''Smash Bros.'', though the latest spelling actually would be without the period apparently, according to ''Mario Golf: World Tour'', unless they're mentioned in the ''Mario Kart 8'' strategy guide just in a throwaway line for a description of Bowser's Castle mentioning how they show up or something. At the same time, I also don't know if uses with the period outweigh those without.
-"Despite every devious and dastardly plot he hatches, Koopa has a certain Rodney Dangerfield-like vulnerability which makes him as loveable as he is hateable. Koopa is pure id. Unmitigated selfishness running rampant in an ugly green body. He will capture, trick, bribe, threaten, attack, cast evil spells, hurl malicious insults, throw temper tantrums and do anything else despicable and nasty to defeat the Super Marios. And he has so much fun doing it; we always want to see him try again. In Super Mario 3, Koopa fans can enjoy his humorous rantings and funny frustrations even more as he contends with his seven black sheep Koopalings. If reptiles had hair, Koopa would've pulled all his out by now."
-Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars[edit]
+-[[User:Toa 95|Toa 95]] ([[User talk:Toa 95|talk]])
-Bio: Yep. Mario teams up with Bowser. These two archenemies have put aside their differences and joined forces. Let's hope this alliance sticks. Watch your back, Mario.
-Initial Stats:
+Seeing as how it's used in the ''Smash Bros.'' trophy, not entirely.
-Level: 8
+-[[User:Toa 95|Toa 95]] ([[User talk:Toa 95|talk]])
-HP: 80
-Speed: 15
-Attack: 85
-Defense: 52
-Magic Attack: 20
-Magic Defense: 30
-Special Attack: Terrorize
-FP Used: 6
-Magic Power: 10
-Description: Scare 'em good!
-Mario Tennis series[edit]
-Mario Tennis[edit]
-Instruction Booklet Bio: "His impressive serve may be too much to handle."
-Mario Tennis Open[edit]
-Type: Power
-Bio: "Bowser is proud of his power. The shots released from his massive body have explosive power! No shot is too strong for him to return."
-Bio 2: "There’s only one style possible for this megaton of a player. No matter how hard you hit the ball towards him, he'll always return it with interest."
-Paper Mario series[edit]
-Paper Mario[edit]
-Instruction Booklet Bio: "Will Bowser use the Star Rod to become ruler of the world? It's up to Mario to make sure that never happens!"
-Super Paper Mario Catch Cards[edit]
-#	Name	Card Type	Image	Description
-	Bowser (1)	Rare	BowserCard.png	Mario's mean-spirited rival needs no introduction. He's not too happy about having to help out Mario.
-	Bowser (2)	Uncommon	Bowser2Card.png	There's Bowser looking dapper in a white tux! Pity the minion that had to wax his shell...
-Paper Mario: Sticker Star[edit]
-Website Bio: "Donning his shiny new paper crown, Bowser has wrangled up his minions and laid waste to the Mushroom Kingdom."
-Mario Kart series[edit]
+Well... huh... I could have sworn it was... I guess I'm just used to that spelling...
-Mario Kart: Super Circuit[edit]
-Speed: *
-Weight: *****
-Bio: "With road rage pumping through his veins, Bowser is the biggest brute on the track. It's impossible to push him around, but his weighty shell makes his acceleration suffer."
-Mario Kart: Double Dash!![edit]
-Kart: Koopa King
-Partner: Bowser Jr.
-Class: Heavy
-Special Item: Bowser's Shell
-Bios
-Website: "Naturally, Bowser gives new meaning to the term road rage. His massive girth is matched only by his fierce temper."
-Instruction Booklet: "Mario's archnemesis. Will racing with his son make him behave better?"
-Mario Kart DS[edit]
-Acceleration: *
-Top Speed: ***
-Off-Road: *
-Bios
-Website:
-Flag of USA.png "Mario's arch-enemy is superb at using his drifting skills to race through curves. Watch out when Bowser barrels through!"
-Flag of Europe.png "During Mario Kart season, Mario and his arch enemy Bowser put their differences aside for the sake of the sport. Bowser is the biggest of the group and therefore his karts are the slowest to accelerate. But his top speed is the highest of all."
-Instruction Booklet: "Mario's arch-enemy is superb at using his drifting skills to race through curves."
-Karts:
-Standard
-Tyrant
-Hurricane
-Mario Kart Wii[edit]
+-[[User:Toa 95|Toa 95]] ([[User talk:Toa 95|talk]])
-Bowser's complete vehicle roster.
+== Super Mario "Big Dictionary" ==
-Size: Large
-Actual Bonuses
-Speed: +2
-Weight: +5
-Drift: +3
-Website Stats:
-Flag of USA.png Speed: 1/5
-Acceleration: 4.5/5
-Handling: 2/5
-Flag of Europe.png Acceleration: 1/3
-Top Speed: 3/3
-Off Road: 1/3
-Bios
-Sites
-Flag of USA.png "Bowser can really throw his weight around behind the wheel of this monstrosity."
-Flag of Europe.png "Is that an engine roaring? No, it's Bowser! Watch your back or he'll mow you down in a full-on assault."
-Guide: "He may have failed to stop Mario, but he's still the master at creating dastardly castle courses, ganging Thwomps and Podoboos into his service!"
-Manual (Flag of Europe.png): "Mario's arch-enemy returns for even more mayhem and destruction! Does Bowser have what it takes to be the fastest and the strongest?"
-Mario Kart 7[edit]
-Class: Heavy
-Stat Boosts
-Speed: 4
-Acceleration: 2
-Weight: 4.25
-Handling: 2.5
-Off-Road: 3.5
-Bio
-Site
-Flag of USA.png "Mario's scaly nemesis is a turbo beast in any race, but he takes a while to reach top speed."
-Flag of Europe.png "Bowser is a real heavyweight, and while his acceleration leaves a lot to be desired, his top speed is top class."
-Guide: "This heavy hitter has a high top speed and enough weight to jostle through almost anyone. Unfortunately for Bowser, these attributes come at the cost of acceleration, handling, and nearly every other kart characteristic."
-Mario Kart 8[edit]
+Is that an official site? [http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=27067.0 From what I can tell], it's a fansite and, though its cache of WL4 names are reportedly good, the same can't be said for Yoshi Touch & Go, the Propeller Mūcho's game of origin. I don't want to create any facts from erroneously citing something. {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
+:Not allowing email responses would be going too far. You're implying that the user supplying the email could be making it up (if I'm wrong on this, please correct me), but going in with the idea of "don't trust the editor" is ludicrous for an editor-driven site. If a brand-new account is claiming this, sure, but any other user should be perfectly allowed to provide emails that reveal information. {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
-Bowser's emblem from Mario Kart 8.
+==re:Old Guide Question==
-Weight Class: Heavy
-Stats
-Speed
-Ground: 4.75
-Water: 5.25
-Air: 4.75
-Anti-Gravity: 5
-Acceleration: 2
-Weight: 4.75
-Handling
-Ground: 2.25
-Water: 2.25
-Air: 2
-Anti-Gravity: 2.5
-Traction: 3.25
-Mini-Turbo: 1.75
-Bio: "Could the king of all Koopas be anything less than the heaviest racer on the course? Of course not. Cruisers like Bowser easily punch aside any lighter racers without breaking a sweat, though they also have to contend with having a tough time in the corners, along with some abysmal acceleration."
-Staff ghost time
-Course	Staff Name	Country	Time	Vehicle Combination
-Body	Tires	Glider
-Bowser's Castle	Nin★Polly	United Kingdom	2:23.872	Badwagon	Standard	Super Glider
-Super Smash Bros. series[edit]
-Mario Emblem.pngSuper Smash Bros. Character
-Bowser
-SSB4 - Bowser Artwork.png
-Game Appearances
-Super Smash Bros. Melee
-Super Smash Bros. Brawl
-Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS
-Super Smash Bros. for Wii U
-Special Moves
-Standard:  Fire Breath
-Side:  Koopa Klaw (SSBM); Flying Slam (SSBB, SSB4)
-Up:  Whirling Fortress
-Down:  Bowser Bomb
-Final Smash:  Giga Bowser
-Battle Entrance
-Bowser emerges from an inferno of fire.
-Super Smash Bros. Melee[edit]
-Instruction Booklet bio: "A mighty foe that trades speed for pure power."
-Trophies[edit]
-#	Name	Image	First Game / Move	Description
-	Bowser
-(Classic)	Trophy31.PNG	Super Mario Bros.
-/85	Bowser has a long history of kidnapping Princess Peach to lure his nemesis, Mario, into traps. He leads an enormous group of mischievous creatures, not the least of which are his seven children. With outrageous strength, flammable breath, and more spikes than you can shake a Star Rod at, Bowser is a constant threat.
-	Bowser [Smash]
-(Adventure)	Trophy32.PNG	B Button: Fire Breath
-Smash B Button: Koopa Klaw	In many ways, Bowser is the toughest character around. Not only does he have near-impervious hide, but his great mass makes him almost impossible to hurl offscreen. Of course, his weight also makes him rather slow to maneuver, so when facing him in battle, it's best to press your attack and not give him a chance to counter.
-	Bowser [Smash]
-(All-Star)	Trophy33.PNG	Up & B Button: Whirling Fortress
-Down & B Button: Bowser Bomb	Bowser's Fire Breath strikes continually, but it grows gradually smaller over time until it's barely smoldering. The Koopa Klaw rakes enemies at a distance and pulls nearby foes in close for a good gnawing. Bowser's Whirling Fortress moves laterally over the ground; it works in midair as a recovery. The Bowser Bomb is powerful and paves the way for more attacks.
-Super Smash Bros. Brawl[edit]
-Instruction Booklet bio: "The King of the Koopas is a destructive heavyweight."
-Website bio: "The biggest and the heaviest of fighters, Bowser has a slightly different flavor this time around! To be honest, there are a LOT of characters that offer a slightly different flavor this time around. If you think they’re all going to be the same as they have been, it'll be rough for you."
-Snake's codec conversation[edit]
-Colonel: Careful, Snake! That's the great and terrible Bowser!
-Snake: Bowser? Looks like a cheap movie monster.
-Colonel: Hardly. Bowser leads an entire army of monsters. But I'd worry more about his claws and fire if I were you.
-Snake: Doesn't look that tough to me. Seems kind of slow, actually.
-Colonel: Well, he is the king of Koopas. It's only natural he'd be slow. But that's only because he's the heaviest fighter here--by far. He's a powerhouse of destruction. Careful he doesn't flatten you.
-Trophies[edit]
-#	Name	Image	Appearance(s)	Description
-	Bowser	BrawlTrophy017.png	NES Super Mario Bros.
-GCN Super Mario Sunshine	The king of the Koopas and Mario's eternal rival. He breathes fire, hurls hammers, attacks from vehicles like the Koopa Clown Car, and uses all sorts of weapons in hopes of taking out Mario. As his size suggests, he's immensely powerful. His son Bowser Jr. is a chip off the old block who spends his time creating trouble for Mario.
-	Giga Bowser	BrawlTrophy018.png	WII Super Smash Bros. Brawl	Bowser, transformed into the terrible and brutal form first seen in Super Smash Bros. Melee. While in this form, he's invulnerable--he takes no damage and cannot be budged. His appearance is so fierce, it's as if he doesn't even belong in the Smash Bros. universe. He cannot maintain this form for long, so dealing out damage efficiently is key.
-	Paper Bowser	BrawlTrophy150.png	WII Super Paper Mario	The great king of the Koopas who plots to rule the land with a firm fist. In a change of events, Bowser goes from being Mario's rival to adventuring side by side with him. Bowser's special skill is breathing fire and he has nearly twice the attack power of Mario or Peach, which allows him to take out foes from a distance or multiple enemies with a single blow.
-	Wedding Bowser	BrawlTrophy152.png	WII Super Paper Mario	The great Koopa king in a sharp, white tuxedo. Bowser is forced into marriage with Princess Peach by Count Bleck, who plots to wipe out the universe with the Chaos Heart. Although it's all part of Count Bleck's plan, Bowser doesn't seem to be displeased with the prospect. This might just be the last time we ever see Bowser in a tuxedo.
-Stickers[edit]
-Image	Game	Effect
-Bowser DDRMM Sticker.png	Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix	[Throwing] - Attack +20
-Usable by: Mario, Luigi, Yoshi, Peach, Bowser
-Bowser MK64 Sticker.png	Mario Kart 64	[Weapon] - Attack +13
-Usable by: Mario, Luigi, Yoshi, Peach, Bowser
-Bowser MPT Sticker.png	Mario Power Tennis	[Darkness] - Attack +21
-Usable by: Ganondorf
-Bowser SPM Sticker.png	Super Paper Mario	[Arm] - Attack +23
-Usable by: Mario, Luigi, Yoshi, Peach, Bowser
-Prima rating[edit]
-Offense: 7
-Defense: 5
-Projectile: 3
-Final Smash: 7
-Throwing Ability: 8
-Speed: 1
-Overall: 7
-Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS Trophies[edit]
-Name	Image	Description
-Bowser	BowserTrophy3DS.png	The archenemy of Mario and the reason Peach spends more time kidnapped than in her own castle. His plans aren't always the best, and occasionally he even finds himself on Mario's side. In Smash Bros., he's a serious heavyweight who laughs off weaker attacks. Hit him hard to send him flying!
-Bowser (Alt.)	BowserAllStarTrophy3DS.png	Bowser makes good use of his heavy physique with his down special Bowser Bomb, slamming down with his bottom. If he's on the ground, he'll jump into the air before crashing down. Also, he can gain a bit of altitude if you press the special button repeatedly while executing Whirling Fortress, his up special.
-Paper Bowser		Bowser's defense team argues that, considering his latent savageness and the promises of wish-granting power, it could only be expected that Bowser would try to grab the Sticker Comet. Who could resist something like that? Bowser was just a victim of circumstance!
-Paper Bowser (Second Form)		The Royal Stickers can grant wishes, both good and bad. One sticker enhanced Bowser's natural greediness and rage, making him so powerful that Mario had to beat him twice in a row-the recycled Bowser even bigger and more powerful than before!
-Bowser + Standard Kart		Bowser has tricked out his kart exactly like Mario's. With a level playing field, it all comes down to the driver's skill. Well, and luck. And if the driver got a good night's sleep... Only the goddess of victory knows who will win. That's part of the fun of Mario Kart!
-Super Smash Bros. for Wii U[edit]
-Palutena's Guidance[edit]
-Pit: When I think of Bowser, I always picture him deep in his castle, steeling himself for a fight.
-Viridi: Or, you know, playing golf or racing in a go-kart.
-Pit: He's looking pretty aggro today. Must be because he's in a fighting game.
-Viridi: When Mario first fought Bowser, I hear he had to use an axe to chop down a rope bridge and drop the big guy.
-Palutena: It all sounds like something from an 8-bit action movie!
-Pit: I won't lie. I'm a little scared.
-Palutena: Don't be. Bowser may be powerful, but he also leaves big openings. Fight smart and look for chances to counterattack.
-Trophies[edit]
-Name	Image	Appears in	Description
-Bowser	SSB4TrophyBowser.png	NES Super Mario Bros. (10/1985)
-N64 Super Mario 64 (09/1996)	Mario's archnemesis and the reason Peach spends more time in "another castle" than in her own. His plans almost never work out, and he occasionally even finds himself on Mario's side. In Smash Bros., he's a serious heavyweight who laughs off weaker attacks. You've gotta hit him hard to send him flying!
-Bowser (Alt.)	SSB4TrophyBowserAlt.png	NES Super Mario Bros. (10/1985)
-N64 Super Mario 64 (09/1996)	Bowser makes good use of his heave physique with his down special Bowser Bomb slamming down with his backside. If he's on the ground, he'll jump into the air before crashing down. Also, he can gain a bit of altitude if you press the special button repeatedly while executing his up special Whirling Fortress.
-Mario Golf series[edit]
-Mario Golf[edit]
-Instruction Booklet Bio: Bowser can boast the most power on the course. Just looking at his massive girth is enough to blow you away!
-Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour[edit]
-Instruction Booklet Bio: "Bwaaahhh ha HA! I'm so good, golfing is starting to get boring! BORING!"
-Mario Party series[edit]
-Mario Party Advance[edit]
-Character Data 1: "Pops up all over. Has the hots for Peach."
-Character Data 2: "He's an awful person who makes mayhem for Mario and his friends."
-Mario Party DS[edit]
-Character trophy[edit]
-#	Name	Image	Description	How to Unlock
-	Bowser	BowserFigureMPDS.png	Bowser's the fiercest force anywhere! His power is unparalleled! And his authority is beyond question! That's what he'd like you to think anyway!	Earn 38,000 Mario Party Points.
-Boss trophy[edit]
-#	Name	Image	Description	How to Unlock
-	Bowser Beaten	BeatenBowserFigure.png	You are the greatest Bowser hunter ever! You captured him! Nothing can beat you! You're standing on top of the world! Oh, yes! The whole world!	Beat the Bowser's Block Party minigame six times.
-Badge[edit]
-#	Name	Image	Description	How to Unlock
-	Bowser Rival	MPDSBadgeBowser.png	37,000 MPP earns you the rank of Bowser Rival, and this is your badge! Makes you seem scary.	Earn 37,000 Mario Party Points
-Mario Party 9[edit]
-Koopa Major - Constellation.png
-Koopa Major: A constellation based on the lord of the Koopa Troops himself. Though selfish and prone to fits of rage, he takes good care of his underlings.
+The content is uploaded for informative purpose, so yeah, sure. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 12:45, 25 January 2015 (EST)
-Mario Party 10[edit]
-Site Bio: The big, bruising king of the Koopas makes his playable Mario Party debut, wreaking havoc on Team Mario in the brand new Bowser Party mode!
-Mario Baseball series[edit]
-Mario Superstar Baseball[edit]
-Team Captain: Yes
-Player Type: Power
-Home Court: Bowser Castle
-Star Swing: Killer Ball
-Star Pitch: Killer Ball
-Special Skill: Laser Beam, Body Check
-Good Chemistry
-Koopa Troopa
-Koopa Paratroopa
-Dry Bones
-Bowser Jr.
-Hammer Bro
-Bad Chemistry
-Mario
-Daisy
-Toad
-Princess Peach
-Toadsworth
-Baby Mario
-Baby Luigi
-Toadette
-Stats
-Batting: 9
-Pitching: 9
-Fielding: 1
-Running: 1
-Bio
-"Mario's arch rival and the king of the Koopa Clan. He's challenged Mario and his friends to battles countless times, but his ambitions tend to get crushed every time. His lethal Killer Ball is powerful enough to drag anyone who catches it across the field!"
-Mario Super Sluggers[edit]
-Bowser
-His strength and stamina baffles batters!
-Bowser MSS.jpg
-Team Name: Bowser Monsters
-Stadium: Bowser's Castle
-Star Pitch: Killer Ball
-Star Swing: Breath Swing
-Fielding/Running: Spin Attack
-Bats/Throws: Left/Right
-Stats
-Pitch	5/10
-Bat	10/10
-Field	3/10
-Run	3/10
-Chemistry[edit]
-Character	Good Chemistry	Bad Chemistry
-Bowser	Koopa Troopa, Koopa Paratroopa, Dry Bones, Bowser Jr., Hammer Bro, Magikoopa	Mario, King K. Rool
-Online card bio[edit]
-"Bowser is a real bad bruiser. As the king of the Koopas and captain of the Bowser Monsters, he packs superstrong hitting, killer pitching and a vicious outfield spin attack into one package."
-Mario Hoops 3-on-3[edit]
+== Proper nouns ==
-Baller Name: The Big Shell
+Hi, I've noticed you moved a few enemy names to be lowercase based on their spelling in the level titles, but [[MarioWiki:Naming#Capitalization|MarioWiki:Naming]] actually states that proper nouns (like enemy names) should always be capitalized regardless of what the source did. This is mainly for consistency (the vast majority of enemy names are capitalized, so having the odd lowercase name would stick out and look strange), but also clarity within the articles (so the names stand out). The ''Mario'' series is pretty dreadful when it comes to being consistent with its names, so we take some liberties where we can to avoid being similarly all over the map, at least for grey areas like capitalization. I'm not sure about the level names themselves, but the enemy names we extract from them should definitely be left uppercase. I hope you understand. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 13:10, 29 January 2015 (EST)
-Type: Powerful
+:I'd actually forgotten we had it written down somewhere at first myself: I remembered discussing it, but only after checking the proposal archives turned up nothing did I think to look at the actual policy page... My knee-jerk reaction is to capitalize everything always, but that's probably just me (hence I made sure to check for neutral policy before saying anything). The level titles are more like phrases than isolated proper nouns like the enemy names (and also don't tend to appear outside of game-specific lists), so I ''think'' it should be okay if they're lowercase - the hope being that the games at last have internal consistency about how they write the titles, of course. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 14:22, 29 January 2015 (EST)
-Special Shot: Bomber Dunk
+::My guess is that it's the exclamation marks. Pretty sure it won't stop me from moving them, so give me a list of the pending renames and I'll do what I can. I'll also fix the talk page issues: if there's anything besides a redirect back to the being-moved page on the destination page (including delete templates), it'll block the move, hence some of them won't go through. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 11:01, 30 January 2015 (EST)
-Letter to Tap: B
+:::Okay, pretty sure I did them all correctly. Does [[Invade Wario Castle]] also need to be moved? Also, I wonder if it'd be better if [[Defeat the giant spear man (Go to the cellar)]] and [[Stop that train! (Go to the cellar)]] had exclamation marks in the identifiers, seeing as the chapter name ([[Go to the cellar!!]]) does. Also, is it ''really'' "[[Ruins at the Bottom of the sea]]"? All the other chapter names remain uppercase, so this halfway-lowercase title seems rather bizarre... - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 19:30, 30 January 2015 (EST)
-Mario Strikers Charged[edit]
+::::I guess it makes sense that they're treating Wario Castle as a proper name, same with Syrup Castle, but yeah, that "Bottom of the sea" is cringe-worthy (same with "''the'' Syrup's treasure", for that matter - Engrish is fun until it gets into the page names). The lack of consistency in the chapter titles is also regrettable. I really want to smooth both matters out just to make things easier on the eyes and memory, rather than forcing folks to try to keep track of which isolated ones are the exceptions to the capitalization rules... - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 21:42, 30 January 2015 (EST)
-Type: Power
+:::::Or maybe they just changed the graphics and didn't really pay attention to the text and whatnot that didn't need to be converted. It's pretty easy to miss little extraneous things like that when you're focused on a given task. I wish the Japanese name related to Syrup so we could figure out what ''was'' meant there, but alas, that part doesn't seem to be a translation at all. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 00:23, 31 January 2015 (EST)
-Super Ability: Fire Storm!
+::::::A mistranslation of ''Syrup-tachi'' is definitely be plausible for the first screen. Moving the "Time Attack" to the Story label position of the level title screen might've been to try and fill the space more evenly, but even so, you'd think  "steal the treasure" on its own would be wordy enough for the name. And at the same time, I feel like there isn't really enough room in the Japanese page for　シロップたちの to be added to the treasure part (but maybe I'm underestimating, idk). Whatever happened there, it's an interesting little quirk. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 19:19, 1 February 2015 (EST)
-Deke: Hides in his shell to repel opponents.
-Stats
-Movement: 3
-Shooting: 10
-Passing: 3
-Defense: 10
-Mario & Sonic series[edit]
-Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games[edit]
-Profile[edit]
-"A Koopa with big spikes, Bowser is an extremely strong competitor and will dominate the Power events with his big muscles. His nasty disposition makes him an intimidating competitor in any event that he enters, especially the hammer throw and javelin throw."
-Stats[edit]
+==Captain Falcon==
-Speed
-Power
-Skill
-Stamina
-Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games[edit]
+re [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Captain_Falcon&diff=1746059&oldid=1739997 this]: I've heard the "leading site" in question is the official english site for F-Zero X, but I've been unable to locate the url for that one (and apparently wayback archive doesn't have it archived). Wish I had someone to sleuth this case. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 22:01, 12 February 2015 (EST)
-Profile[edit]
+:One of ''the'' characteristics about Captain Falcon is that nobody knows anything about him; he's from Port Town, he's an amazing bounty hunter, and that's it. Honestly, I doubt that any official site would casually drop his full name. From what sleuthing I've done, his first and last "names" first popped up on Wikipedia in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Captain_Falcon&diff=prev&oldid=9693122 2005], from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Lord_Jabu-Jabu a user] who popped up for one day and that's it. His middle name was actually later [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Captain_Falcon&diff=prev&oldid=12190419 added] by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.58.212.64 an IP] who mostly made minor, but still reputable, edits throughout 2005. Neither of them provided a source. The name was later removed for being unsourced... [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Captain_Falcon&diff=prev&oldid=619769296 in 2014]. It seems to me that the damage had already been done. {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
-"Bowser is Mario's arch-enemy and leader of the Koopa race trying to take over the Mushroom Kingdom at every opportunity. Large and strong, this towering competitor has the Spinning Shell ability on the Wii and DS and Flame Dash ability on the DS. The snow will not slow down this member of Team Mario. You can be sure Bowser believes the gold medal has his name on it!"
+::If it's official, then signs definitely point to "a leading but defunct website" being the ''F-Zero X'' one, but the legitimacy of it is in question when it was silently added to Wikipedia as late as 2005 if the original site had been down for years (and the site doesn't ''appear'' to have any backups, nor does [http://web.archive.org/web/20001017194715/http://www.fzerox.com/flash_no.asp wayback] seem to help). This also spread to the [https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Falcon Spanish], [https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Falcon Italian], and even [https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A3%E3%83%97%E3%83%86%E3%83%B3%E3%83%BB%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3#.E6.A6.82.E8.A6.81 Japanese] Wikipedia (the latter contributes this to the North American localization, but again fails to adequately specify), as well as various wiki sites in other languages. I'm thinking this is just a big game of messenger, but it could be that the exact source, if it indeed existed, may very well be lost. Since there is no real way to verify...best to treat this as a rumor. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:20, 13 February 2015 (EST)
-Wii stats[edit]
+== Re:Doki Doki Panic Images ==
-Speed
-Acceleration
-Power
-Skill
-DS stats[edit]
-Speed
-Jumping
-Power
-Technique
-Stamina
-Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games[edit]
-Profile[edit]
-"One of Mario's biggest rivals, Bowser is an extremely strong competitor and will dominate the Power events with his big muscles. His size makes him a formidable competitor in any event that he enters, especially the Hammer Throw and Javelin Throw."
-Statistics[edit]
+Yeah, those images are indeed redundant, and in general, it's always best to avoid cropped chunks of images whenever possible (although I can't remember where or when that discussion was held on the wiki/forums). I agree that it'd be best if those six images (inducing Wart) were deleted and replaced with full images from the manual (nice find, by the way). - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 19:41, 15 March 2015 (EDT)
-Acceleration: 5/10
-Max Speed: 7/10
-Technique: 4/10
-Power: 9/10
-Stamina: 8/10
-Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games[edit]
-Online Profile: "The fire-breathing Bowser isn't normally someone to be trifled with, and he's just as formidable out on the ice and snow."
-Mario & Luigi series[edit]
-Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story[edit]
-Website Bios
-Flag of USA.png "Bowser is the big, boastful bruiser of the Mushroom Kingdom, and ruler of the Koopas. His hobbies are terrorizing Princess Peach and thinking up ways to foil Mario once and for all."
-Nicknames
-Your Beefiness, Monsiuer Turtle Bits, The King of Awesome
-Flag of Europe.png "Get to know Bowser better than you ever thought possible – from the inside out! While Mario and Luigi get gung-ho down in his guts (let's hope there’s more than one exit), Bowser’s on a solo mission to protect his castle – and his dignity – against the dastardly Fawful."
-Instruction Booklet Bio: "The big bruiser who rules over the Koopas as their king. He'll get Princess Peach this time, if it's the last thing he does..."
-Initial Stats:
-HP: 75
-SP: 17
+==Boss sumo bro. page==
-POW: 55
-DEF: 29
+Just fyi, I created the <nowiki>{{pageneeded}}</nowiki> template precisely because all the pages whose name source is only a vague "comes from the Prima/Nintendo Power guide" are grouped in one category. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 20:45, 21 March 2015 (EDT)
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+==Re: Fan Images==
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+I'm pretty sure they're officially, all I did was give them transparency, so I just gave them credit to uploading the original files on the wiki. :p --{{User:UltraMario3000/sig}}
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+:Yeah, I can see why you you got confused there. Blame 2011 UM for that!--{{User:UltraMario3000/sig}}
-Flag of USA.png "It wouldn't be the same without Bowser, so it's a good thing he turns up to Pi'illo Island, too—uninvited, of course. He's pretty peeved when he finds out someone else has kidnapped Princess Peach!"
-Flag of Europe.png "It wouldn't be the same without Bowser, so it's a good job he turns up to Pi'illo Island too - even if he is uninvited! Wonder what he's got planned this time?"
+== Boss Bro ==
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+According to the guide, there shouldn't be a period. Here's the context: ''"Quickly jump up and stomp '''Boss Sumo Bro''' while he’s stunned, and stomp the big brute three times to put him down for the count!"'' {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
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+Yeah, using these templates for images is acceptable. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 09:17, 28 March 2015 (EDT)
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+== Names in other languages ==
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-Bio: Head of the Koopa Troop, whose sole aim seems to be disturbing the peace in Mushroom Kingdom. He's a dangerous business rival, who won't hesitate to buy your property from under you.
+While tagging all the things requiring references is really great and hugely appreciated, it'd be better to leave the "Names in other languages" sections intact. The romanizations aren't always the same as the page names and the templates give a nice, natural place to put the etymology, rather than cluttering up the first line with kana and parentheticals (and/or jamming it haphazardly in somewhere else in the page). They also help fill space on what are often teeny articles otherwise, are consistent with pages that have Japanese (or whatever) names in addition to the English name, and will need to be restored anyway if more names are ever uncovered. (In fact, there has been some discussion about putting a kibosh on moving any more pages to unconfirmed Japanese names, and instead leaving them with the conjectural English names until there's proof we're not just exchanging one made-up term for another, but it's still to be decided for sure.) In any case, it's really best to ''not'' systematically remove entire sections from articles, at least not with prior discussion and approval. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 01:30, 10 April 2015 (EDT)
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+:Those are the pages that fell through the cracks (they're often lower traffic pages, and most people who do see them don't care or are too busy with other maintenance projects to try and take on an extra task, methinks). Anyway, I've periodically wondered about proposing we make the sections for the names in general and include English down there too: it'd be good for PAL vs NA situations, for name inconsistencies and changes, and for explaining the name without resorting to Trivia sections or trying to insert it somewhere in the intro. But whether it's repurposed and renamed "Etymology" or plain "Names" (as I've been considering) or whatever, it'd be a big, hairy maintenance project, so I've just been mulling it on the backburner for the time being: there's enough that already needs fixing up on any given day around here... Anyway, thanks for understanding. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 02:12, 10 April 2015 (EDT)
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+When I made that comment, I was referring to the Head Block page exclusively and not making a general statement about your other TPPs created at that time. An item that serves the same function and has the same name as the target page in its latest appearance is a pretty clear/cut case, methink. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 09:55, 18 April 2015 (EDT)
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+:I agree, though I apply this to both the Head Block and Checkered Block. {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
+::I'd still say that having less proposals to take care of at the same time really helps when you have to make all the maintenance edits (link edits and whatnot). {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
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+I suppose. The proposal page states "''Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.''". --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 11:40, 18 April 2015 (EDT)
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+Hmmm, hard to say... Since it's such a contentious issue and has had so many proposals about it already, part of me feels like it should still be changed via TPP if possible even though it's backed by policy. If the "police"/"patrol" thing wasn't a factor, I'd say at least ride it out until the 23rd to see if it'll swing in your favour this time, but it'd be dishonest to move it to "patrol" when the TPP's for "police", so maybe yank it now instead on those grounds, and then replace it with one of two options. Option one is making a regular {{tem|talk}} section saying "hey guys, we have the solid info now, and policy says we hafta do this, so..." and then a couple admins and other users will hopefully breeze in and agree, and then the page can be moved with clearly documented back-up after a few days, hopefully without much backlash. OR, option two is making a new TPP now advocating for the correct "Snifit Patrol" title: if it passes, it'll be stronger argument backing up the move, but even proposal rulings are challenged sometimes, and people might not appreciate ''another'' TTP, on that matter or in general. Either way, the text should be a clear and ''succinct'' summary of all the info that's been dribbling in (i.e. the fact that the VC name is endorsed by policy, how the Para Galoomba stuff already sets a precedent for mis-matched canon titles, and the notion that "Snufit Patrol" is unverified to begin with). There's pros and cons to both approaches to the matter, but the more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards the informal talk page discussion option, but I'm not 100% sure either way. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 20:43, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
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+Random question: what's your source for the [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Spiny_Fish&diff=prev&oldid=1680423 Japanese name of] the [[Spiny Fish]], since you added it in? {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
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+The SMB movie webcomic sequel is in a pretty unique situation, and could create more conflict if some hardcore SMB movie fan (lol) come here and says "but the canon webcomic sequel says [x]". I thought of making a forum thread about what to do with it, and this recent edit may have given me the motivation to do so... I'll probably make a thread before going to bed. [edit: [http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=34726.0 it's up] --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 20:20, 1 May 2015 (EDT)
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+:Yeah, that was my thought and the concensus in that thread too. mostly I wanted something to link to incase someone tries to cite that webcomic. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 18:11, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
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+== "FDS" official? ==
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+Can I get some confirmation on this? I have never seen ''any'' abbreviation anywhere official. The best I've found is that Nintendo runs an old Disk System page with part of the URL being "fc_disk". I'm not sure an NoA source can really be trusted for this (old NoA is sketchy, and new NoA will just retroactively take and use whatever people use), but even that would help. [[Special:Contributions/75.177.119.25|75.177.119.25]] 18:11, 2 May 2015 (EDT)
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+:In the English script, console of origin is never listed. In the Japanese script, "FCD" is used, which explains why I see it as much as I do. The English ''scripts'' for the various games also use "Famicom Disk System" and always treats localizations as better than the original releases, so any info from those would be sketchy. [[Special:Contributions/75.177.119.25|75.177.119.25]] 20:25, 4 May 2015 (EDT)
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+::While I would much prefer "FCDS"--it's obviously more accurate to the actual phrase--I'm not really opposed to "FCD" being official. It's still way more accurate than "FDS"!
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+== RE: Big Fire Piranha Plant ==
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+The NSMB2 guide refers to the fire-shooty ones as "Venus Fire Traps", and its larger counterpart "Big Venus Fire Traps". {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
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+I moved it just to match. I'll move it to Piranha Flower since the in-game name is the most reliable source. [[User:YoshiCookie|YoshiCookie]] ([[User talk:YoshiCookie|talk]]) 11:33, 7 May 2015 (EDT)
+== Re: Bone Piranhas ==
+I got all those names from the NSMB2 Prima Guide and I'm sure I said that when I moved them in the first place. I can provide a picture as proof if I need it. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
+:Yeah, no problem. Just saying, I can't actually scan it, but either way it's all worked out. Though on the topic of the whole Big Fire Piranha Plant thing, the guide also lists them off as Big Venus Fire Traps (Venus Fire Trap for smaller counterparts). I don't know if that's useful to you or not, but I thought I'd pull that up just in case. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
+== Re: About Scuttle Bug ==
+My guide was in tatters the last time I saw it and lost somewhere right now, but I'll see what I can do. I'm not exactly sure what happened with Spoing and Sprangler, and I don't think there's a proposal reversing it. --[[User:Vommack|Vommack]] ([[User talk:Vommack|talk]]) 18:14, 17 May 2015 (EDT)
+== Names ==
+Hello there! I've been compiling [[User:Time_Turner/unfinished#Look_for_official_English_names|a giant list]] of every name that's conjectural, not cited, or not in English (because boredom is the best motivator). I know you have access to at least the SM64 guide, and hopefully other ones, so whenever you can, could you go through the list and see if any of the listed items are given names in the guides? Thanks! {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
+:The end goal is the same for all of them, and I'm not intending for the list to be the superofficial list of all unofficial names; it's just a handy guide on what to research for me and anyone who wants to chip in. Organizing everything into different classes seems like an unnecessary step; if I already have access to a guide, I'm going to look into all of the names that might be there, regardless of whether or not it's a foreign name or a [''citation needed''] name or whatnot. {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
+::Even if it seems really pointless, it couldn't hurt to look out for sources. At the very least, M&W is there so that I don't look through the categories again and think, "Hm, wonder why that article isn't there?" and then I click on it and it's an M&W article and I've wasted a bit of my time. Thank you for the Buddy Barrel source, though!
+::In regards to Blurp, I went off of what was presented in the article. There's a source for the name "Blurp" right below a request for a citation for the name "Blurp," so I made a connection. I generally don't like to involve myself in the stuff involving aquatic enemies (seriously, you'd think that every fish in the series is just a Cheep Cheep), so you'd probably have better luck discussing what to do with that article with someone else.
+::Yep, thought you were blanking it, since you pretty much were blanking it. I've only seen the dash used when the names were identical or nearly between languages, and I mean letter-for-letter (see [[Goomba#Names_in_other_languages|here]] and [[Koopa_Troopa#Names_in_other_languages|here]] for examples). Language can be fickle, so if the name is clearly non-English, it's generally better to write it out. Think of it like this: assuming that I have no knowledge in French, someone telling me that "Goomba" is French for "Goomba" is rather redundant, while someone telling me that "Lance Marto" is French for "[[Hammer Throw (badge)|Hammer Throw]]" is useful even though Hammer Throw is already the English name. On that point, translations can also vary from person to person, since Lance Marto can be literally read as "Throw Hammer," so presenting one translation is neater for organization's sake. One could even bring up the multiple interpretations in cases of ambiguity or when discussions might pop up [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Genie_of_the_Lamp&diff=prev&oldid=1838297 as demonstrated by Walkazo]). In short, leave the dash for the really obvious translations. {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
+:::Holy Blargg, indeed. I'm not exactly in the best of conditions right now, and I'm certainly not up for any editing, but I just wanna let you know that I've (tried my best to) read through your message. If you haven't already, could you make some of those moves you were talking about? {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
+::::So, I'm in slightly-better-but-not-really condition right now, and I've made pretty much all of the changes you mentioned (though I'm still in the process of fully updating the list). On a side note, I don't think unofficial names from a hack count. Actually, I wanted to ask you a question about another name-related matter: the Super Mario Land 2 enemies! I've already made a few moves based on an issue of Nintendo Power, but I have a habit of both reading things too quickly and being cautious when it comes to attaching names to things. [http://imgur.com/a/0xF2g The relevant pages are here]; I was hoping you could read through them and see if there's anything I've missed. {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
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+ok, sourced the unambiguous names. "pillars" are in lowercase, and the one page I found mentioning the cannon pipes call them "pipe cannons" in the one page I found, but I don't remember in which levels those appear in. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 10:40, 21 May 2015 (EDT)
+== About the Bro. comment ==
+Hello, Smasher345 here. I just logged into my account on Gamefaqs since forever and just noticed you messaged me about the boss sumo bro from the Prima guide. Sorry about that, I haven't been active for a while, I was kinda busy. Anyway, about the period, don't worry about it, I'm going to double check that, though it might be hard since I never really had the guide book. I read the guidebook at a Best Buy store that was not wrapped up allowing me to open it and read it, which is where I got the name of Boss Sumo Bro. But I'll try my best to see if the period is really there, unless someone else has already done it. Sorry for the late reply. {{User:Smasher345/sig}} 21:13, 16 June 2015 (EDT)
+== Re:Cat Marios ==
+I believe I created the article out of a red link, I didn't actually name it myself. It was there as early as pre-release date. Golden Statue Mario is named [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Super_Mario_3D_World&diff=1579844&oldid=1579825 in this revision]. I don't want to dig up where Lucky Cat Mario was named but I believe I followed a red link and created the article there. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 01:16, 28 June 2015 (EDT)
+:Well what I meant to say is that it was originally red-linked (since the article didn't exist at the time) and added by other users, all I did was create the page. If it's not the official name, feel free to move it. It was named prior to the game's release anyway. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 04:51, 28 June 2015 (EDT)