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Thanks for moving that, I agree it should have been on there in the first place. You have a real interest in the controversies article! I have a bunch of other ideas for it on my sandbox page if you want to check them out. There is a whole lot more that could be added to it. BTW, I'm GBAToad, nice to meet you. [[User:GBAToad|GBAToad]] ([[User talk:GBAToad|talk]]) 13:40, 18 May 2013 (EDT)
Thanks for moving that, I agree it should have been on there in the first place. You have a real interest in the controversies article! I have a bunch of other ideas for it on my sandbox page if you want to check them out. There is a whole lot more that could be added to it. BTW, I'm GBAToad, nice to meet you. [[User:GBAToad|GBAToad]] ([[User talk:GBAToad|talk]]) 13:40, 18 May 2013 (EDT)
== Controversies ==
<small>New section because it's so big :p</small>
Thanks for the kind words! It took me a while to find sources that expanded upon the information that was originally on the wiki, and it was also difficult choosing a way to structure the article. Originally, I wanted to set it out by game/title as you suggested, but these sections allow for related controversies (such as lawsuits) to be clumped together and look organised (well at least I thought :p). The page as a whole is inconsistent with the other References articles given it's topic and size anyway, but if we were to organize the article alphabetically than I'd suggest keeping the lawsuits separate from the actual controversies. The titles I gave (Satanism, animal cruelty) were vague, but lawsuits are a different topic almost entirely which is why they should be separate if we re-arrange the article. Maybe we could just have two headings: Controversies and Lawsuits, and organize individual controversies alphabetically underneath those? {{br}}
Anyway, here are my thoughts on your thoughts on my thoughts:
*''Birdo's Gender.'' — I completely skipped that article in my original search, thanks for highlighting it! It actually gives plenty of detail for constructing a list of continuity errors. I feel that Birdo's Gender doesn't necessarily cause an issue, more that its just weird and that plenty of gaming websites have made note of it.
*''Ashley'' — Yeah, for now the music is a placeholder and doesn't really belong there. A sped-up version (from the original software, otherwise it wouldn't work) would be cooler.
*''Universal accuracy'' — I actually structured it from a case report on OpenJurist.org, so it's all rewritten. I just thought I'd missed something is all :)
*''PETA images'' — One issue though, because of the article's topic we should avoid anything too gruesome, there are children that read this site.
*''Mario Party 8'' — '''" " "''' means 'ditto', which essentially means <s>I was too lazy to write it out again</s> it's the same thing as the sentence written above it. So basically, it was easy to get information on the Mario Party 8 controversy, and I was wondering if we could upload an image for it. There is a perfect image for the controversy on the web, but I'm cautious to upload it in case it offends someone D:
*''Other lawsuits'' — Yes, the NSMBW hack scandal would be great! Also, unlike other console lawsuits (such as the [http://www.1up.com/news/nintendo-sued-interactive-exercise-company|Wii Balance board lawsuit], the 3DS one gained a bit of momentum (not to mention Nintendo lost) and there is enough info to construct a good section about it, so it is definitely relevant. But, I didn't realize that the additional Mario Party one had more detail to it! You know a lot more about it than I do, so you should definitely add it to the article. It would be perfect to add, as well as the Japanese Wario/Luigi translation issue (D'OH I MISSED that controversy).
*''Other notes'' — Bulbapedia has a template on their article, but the best I could do was write the sentence ''This article contains information which may be objective to personal views. As such, reader discretion is advised''. We probably do not need a new template for just one article.
As for including EVERY controversy, it's important to not go overboard. We should only list the controversies that Nintendo has acknowledged (because otherwise they really do not matter). As long as we can cite every sentence with sources and keep our credibility high (quoting Walkazo there) we can add it, provided that it has enough relevance.
Other than that, we should co-ordinate and divide up the new additions that we've come up with so that we can both contribute! Controversies make the ''Mario'' series (and Nintendo as a whole) really interesting, and I'm glad that other people think that. It's really great that you are interested in this stuff as much as I am. :D
BTW, Typing "''List of Mario Controversies''" into Google brings up this page as the first result, so my guess is that there hasn't been a similar list to this, ANYWHERE (which makes it kind of cool IMO). [[User:GBAToad|GBAToad]] ([[User talk:GBAToad|talk]]) 16:13, 18 May 2013 (EDT)

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Hello. Please remove {{construction}} from your userpage. It currently adds your page to Category:Articles under construction which is kept for our actual articles. If you wish, you are permitted to use the template's source (excluding the category). Thanks.

'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 15:56, 31 October 2012 (EDT)

No problem. I had a doubt, then I checked if we could use it by watching all the pages that use this template in the category "Articles under construction", and because of I saw 3 users who use it, I thought we could. Sorry. Banon (talk) 16:01, 31 October 2012 (EDT)
Don't worry, it happens all the time. I'll ask an admin to remove the template from the remaining userspace pages. If you ever need any help, don't hesitate to ask me.
'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 16:05, 31 October 2012 (EDT)
Thank you ! Banon (talk)

RE: Mario Mario

You're welcome :D I'll work on the other characters tomorrow. Also, this may be a bit embarrassing but what does canonical mean exactly?

Embarrassing still...what does canon mean?
I'll try to get my head around it :), but in the meantime;
File:Yk.jpg

'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 08:30, 10 November 2012 (EST)

Umm..

I know that that exists... Razzoom "MarioKart" Johnson, Senior. (talk) 13:25, 10 November 2012 (EST)

BTW wanna be friends?

RE: Transparency

  1. Try refreshing the page.
  2. Try GIMP
  3. You are welcome :D
That's likely because we are against adding transparency to artworks. We had a proposal last year. Now we can't give transparency to artworks unless the transparency isn't pixelated, or as we say "bad transparency". Acceptable transparency is ones where there is no visible white background around the edges against a black background (like this one). While an example of "bad transparency" can be seen here. Sprites, on the other hand, we recommend to give transparency because they are made up of larger, more definite pixels. But I'm not the expert, if you have further questions about image stuff try asking M&SG (talk) or Lindsay151 (talk).

'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 07:16, 11 November 2012 (EST)

RE: Question

The lack of treasures didn't look right, but I see many "Lists of Treasures" in the category, so those pages might hold more treasures beyond that. There might be some more pages which simply aren't categorized, so go ahead and tag the pages you feel are necessary.

About your second question, do you mean an internal link to a category? Like this? Simply add a semicolon to the front of the category name; [[:Category:Wario's Treasures]]. Without the semicolon, the page will be categorized and the link won't appear. I hope this helps :)

No problem! So, you're French? I went to France a couple of months ago. We went to a city called Briançon near the Italian border and mountains. There was this awesome old castle!
It's hot here in Australia at the moment! Once you get out of the cities, it's quite beautiful.
A bit on the unbearable side. But it rained a bit yesterday, so that was a nice change ;)
Am sorry, my classes start in a few minutes. I'll take my time you help you out later.
Okay now, the title Super Mario Bros. does in fact refer to "Mario and his brother". The "Mario Bros." part of the word is a collective term for the two brothers. Mario is often shown to be greater than Luigi, so his name takes precedence. Mario and Luigi don't have last names. This subject was discussed in an interview with Shigeru Miyamoto. I've found you the magazine scan here if you wanted to read up on it.

'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 01:34, 14 December 2012 (EST)

About my edit in Bowser and Kamek's article

Hey I saw that you posted about my editing in Bowser and Kamek's articles about Bowser knowing to attack Kamek. I said that Bowser attacked Kamek once which was when he was a baby and that was the only time he purposely attacked. You said that Bowser attacks him in New Super Mario Bros Wii, but if you look closely you would know that that was an accident and not intentional. Bowser became giant while Kamek was staring to see if the magic worked and thats when he bumped Kamek off the broom by accident. Bowser did not know Kamek was there when he became giant and that was Kamek's fault for staying there thinking the magic didn't work. It wasn't intentional. Smasher345

RE: Barge/Dash Attack

No problem. I was planning to create a separate article for the move, but you're right, it's pretty much the same move, just a different name. Maybe I'll just make it a redirect to Dash Attack, I'll think about it. Also "Sorry for having edited the page" makes sense. But "Sorry for editing the page" makes a bit more sense. Your English is very good, by the way. I know basic French and Italian (I was born in Italy). Vous parléz en Francais avec moi si vous desiréz ? My French is not that good!

Hey. Sorry for the late reply. I was a bit caught up with some other things lately. I have learned French for the past two years at high school, but I'm still not too good at it yel40.png. Je préferé parle Englais si vous plaît ! Merci mon amis!
To answer your question, I did take those screenshots with an emulator. But don't copy me, please! I've got a stack of screenshots I still want to upload. Also, I saw your edit on my page Template:Plainlink. __NOTOC__ gets rid of the table of contents from the top of the page. I generally put this on some pages where there are a few short sections which will make a table of contents by default, but it is not necessary on the article. I put this on all of the Wario Land 4 levels as well. I see that you have that game! Do you play it much?

'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 21:21, 15 December 2012 (EST)

Mushroom Ball

Could you elaborate on how the redirect isn't useless?

Toa 95 (talk)

According to this proposal, article identifiers should match the game appearance as opposed to a quality of the subject, except in cases where it cannot be limited to a single game or they appear in the same game/media.

And to me, it just seems pointless to have the alternative identifier as a redirect. And considering the fact that other redirects like it have been deleted so far, it probably should.

Toa 95 (talk)

RE: Redirect

Hi. Uppercase and lowercase don't matter. See Help:Redirect. Also, yes you must move the page, because it retains the history. I'll do it for you if you want.

'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 17:18, 30 December 2012 (EST)

RE: Two Toadettes

This youtube video of the Super Mario Galaxy opening should show you two Toadettes at around 1:02 into the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezp8LTgOWzY Smasher345 12:20, 1 January 2013 (EST)

Friend request

Hi, Banon, want to be friends? I'll give you my userbox after.


--driftmaster130 (TalkEdits) 19:06, 3 January 2013 (EST)

Sprite

Hi. Just to let you know that the sprite I reverted at File:MarioBrosSprites.PNG was the actual size of what the game displays, and that is always better than an upscaled one. Also my version was already transparent.

Hey, don't worry about it. Everyone makes mistakes. Just remember to refresh an image page often, as after re-uploading all it needs is a refresh to actually appear to change. I hope you are well.
Pretty good. I'm an admin now :)

'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 09:27, 4 January 2013 (EST)

Re:friend

Here's my userbox: |-

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File:MARIOTIME11.jpg

And no, this isn't a contest or anything like that. I just wanted to be friends with you and display your AWESOME userbox on my page....... P.S. I speak some French as well.

--driftmaster130 (TalkEdits) 16:57, 4 January 2013 (EST)

Je ne parle pas beaucoup francais...... Don't know if I said that right, I only started learning French, like, six months ago. I'm not trying to stalk you or anything, and I'm only asking because I'm curious, but what country do you live in? France or Canada or somewhere else?

--driftmaster130 (TalkEdits) 17:07, 4 January 2013 (EST)

Haha, I never realized that. That 'I wasn't born yesterday' is just a joke. Anyways, I don't know if you knew this or not, but 'I wasn't born yesterday' is a figure of speech used in American English meaning that you shouldn't expect to have advantages over someone so easily. I just used it as a joke on my userpage :P (If I wasn't REALLY born, why would I be here!?!?!?!?!) :D

--driftmaster130 (TalkEdits) 17:17, 4 January 2013 (EST)

Yep, that's a similar saying :)

--driftmaster130 (TalkEdits) 17:26, 4 January 2013 (EST)

Talk

Hey, Banon, what's up? Haven't talked for a long time..... :D

--driftmaster130 (TalkEdits) 16:46, 2 February 2013 (EST)

Ummm.... Nothing much, really. YoshiKong got promoted to a patroller, but nothing much besides that.

--driftmaster130 (TalkEdits) 17:34, 8 February 2013 (EST)

Does your username come from this place??

--driftmaster130 (TalkEdits) 18:24, 25 February 2013 (EST)

Bah non, identifiant génial! Bah oui, c'est drôle! :D (My French is much better now), mais je prefere parler anglais :) FYI, when I registered, it was 2011, and the time was 11AM (origin of my username).

--driftmaster130 (TalkEdits) 11:35, 10 March 2013 (EDT)

=D Do you have a forums account?

--driftmaster130 (TalkEdits) 18:21, 13 March 2013 (EDT)

RE: I need your help to move a page

Hey Banon. The redirect would need to be deleted before the page can be moved. I'll go ask a sysop to do that for us.

'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 08:22, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

Re: A little question

Hey Banon! Have the infobox first, and then use articleabout. The reason being is that when you put it the other way round, the infobox begins lower on the page rather than right at the top. I hope this helps.

The notice templates should go at the top of the page, but below {{italic title}} seen in the code.

'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 01:38, 5 April 2013 (EDT)

Reply

Not a bother at all! So when we put an astrix within a category, like [[Category:Remakes|*]], it affects how the page appears on the cat. page. See how the page "Remake" article is put at the top with the asterix? This shows that it's some sort of core page. I hope this answered your questions. Please message me back if you need help with something else :)

'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 08:30, 7 April 2013 (EDT)

Re: Capitalization

I've asked some of the other admins, and we do prefer lowercase for section titles (except for the first word and proper nouns. It's a pretty big change, but you are welcome to make a start by changing the "References to Other Games" and similar section titles on articles. In regards to the official policy pages, those will be taken care of.

'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 06:45, 8 April 2013 (EDT)

Re: Durians

I have proof. Go here Soccer Ball# Trivia. Pokebub (talk) 21:03, 26 April 2013 (EDT)

Re: Proposal

Yeah, Writing Guidelines proposals are for when you're suggesting a whole new policy page (or a major revision to an existing Writing Guideline). I checked a couple pages at random and they didn't include the genre, just the name of the game, which makes more sense to me as well, and probably most other users too, I'd imagine. Anyway, yes, a Wiki Collaboration thread would be a perfect way to make sure everyone is on the same page and generate awareness about fixing the articles that do include the superfluous info. - Walkazo 21:20, 27 April 2013 (EDT)

secret agent puni

as you wanted, a reference :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9c9Vvxr0hA&list=PLF00C64B86BD75D79 at 3:32
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kingkoopa64 (talk).

Hello!

Can we be friends? -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 18:54, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

New Super Chick Sisters

Thanks for moving that, I agree it should have been on there in the first place. You have a real interest in the controversies article! I have a bunch of other ideas for it on my sandbox page if you want to check them out. There is a whole lot more that could be added to it. BTW, I'm GBAToad, nice to meet you. GBAToad (talk) 13:40, 18 May 2013 (EDT)

Controversies

New section because it's so big :p

Thanks for the kind words! It took me a while to find sources that expanded upon the information that was originally on the wiki, and it was also difficult choosing a way to structure the article. Originally, I wanted to set it out by game/title as you suggested, but these sections allow for related controversies (such as lawsuits) to be clumped together and look organised (well at least I thought :p). The page as a whole is inconsistent with the other References articles given it's topic and size anyway, but if we were to organize the article alphabetically than I'd suggest keeping the lawsuits separate from the actual controversies. The titles I gave (Satanism, animal cruelty) were vague, but lawsuits are a different topic almost entirely which is why they should be separate if we re-arrange the article. Maybe we could just have two headings: Controversies and Lawsuits, and organize individual controversies alphabetically underneath those?

Anyway, here are my thoughts on your thoughts on my thoughts:

  • Birdo's Gender. — I completely skipped that article in my original search, thanks for highlighting it! It actually gives plenty of detail for constructing a list of continuity errors. I feel that Birdo's Gender doesn't necessarily cause an issue, more that its just weird and that plenty of gaming websites have made note of it.
  • Ashley — Yeah, for now the music is a placeholder and doesn't really belong there. A sped-up version (from the original software, otherwise it wouldn't work) would be cooler.
  • Universal accuracy — I actually structured it from a case report on OpenJurist.org, so it's all rewritten. I just thought I'd missed something is all :)
  • PETA images — One issue though, because of the article's topic we should avoid anything too gruesome, there are children that read this site.
  • Mario Party 8" " " means 'ditto', which essentially means I was too lazy to write it out again it's the same thing as the sentence written above it. So basically, it was easy to get information on the Mario Party 8 controversy, and I was wondering if we could upload an image for it. There is a perfect image for the controversy on the web, but I'm cautious to upload it in case it offends someone D:
  • Other lawsuits — Yes, the NSMBW hack scandal would be great! Also, unlike other console lawsuits (such as the Balance board lawsuit, the 3DS one gained a bit of momentum (not to mention Nintendo lost) and there is enough info to construct a good section about it, so it is definitely relevant. But, I didn't realize that the additional Mario Party one had more detail to it! You know a lot more about it than I do, so you should definitely add it to the article. It would be perfect to add, as well as the Japanese Wario/Luigi translation issue (D'OH I MISSED that controversy).
  • Other notes — Bulbapedia has a template on their article, but the best I could do was write the sentence This article contains information which may be objective to personal views. As such, reader discretion is advised. We probably do not need a new template for just one article.

As for including EVERY controversy, it's important to not go overboard. We should only list the controversies that Nintendo has acknowledged (because otherwise they really do not matter). As long as we can cite every sentence with sources and keep our credibility high (quoting Walkazo there) we can add it, provided that it has enough relevance.

Other than that, we should co-ordinate and divide up the new additions that we've come up with so that we can both contribute! Controversies make the Mario series (and Nintendo as a whole) really interesting, and I'm glad that other people think that. It's really great that you are interested in this stuff as much as I am. :D

BTW, Typing "List of Mario Controversies" into Google brings up this page as the first result, so my guess is that there hasn't been a similar list to this, ANYWHERE (which makes it kind of cool IMO). GBAToad (talk) 16:13, 18 May 2013 (EDT)