Editing Talk:Mini-Yoshi

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Should we change this article to '''The Great Gonzales Jr?'''. It's an official name. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Need to tell me something? Go to my talk page.]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]]<tt>&middot;</tt></small>) 19:03, 3 November 2006 (EST)

I think that would be a good idea. -- [[User:Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]]

I agree. [[Image:Parayoshiicon.jpg|20px]][[User:Parayoshi|<span style="color: green">Para Yoshi</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Parayoshi|<tt>Wahoo!</tt>]]</sup>[[Image:Parayoshiicon.jpg|20px]] 19:10, 3 November 2006 (EST)

Just make a redirect for it. Don't change the name! [[User:3dejong|3dejong]]

I did. But...more people agree that we should change it. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Need to tell me something? Go to my talk page.]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]]<tt>&middot;</tt></small>) 19:23, 3 November 2006 (EST)

I agree with paper jorge hes got the right idea!--[[User:Lord Crump|Lord Crump]] 19:40, 3 November 2006 (EST)

But that's not his ''real'' name, just his alias in the Glitz Pit. [[User:3dejong|3dejong]]

He doesn't have a ''real'' name. -- [[User:Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]]

The closest thing to a real name is "Great Gonzales Jr." yoshi kid is what the wiki refers to him as.--[[User:Lord Crump|Lord Crump]] 19:53, 3 November 2006 (EST)

Yes, Yoshi Kid is not official. Great Gonzales Jr. is probably the only "official" name he has. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Need to tell me something? Go to my talk page.]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]]<tt>&middot;</tt></small>) 23:18, 3 November 2006 (EST)

Should we change Mario to the Great Gonzales? =P Seriously though, what's the default name if you don't write anything? That's another possible option. Also, isn't the Japanese name Chibi Yoshi, or Yoshi Kid? -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]

His default name is simply Yoshi. -- [[User:Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]]

I have an idea! How about someone just transfers This main article to the Yoshi article, and simply state that the name you give him is optional?--[[User:PeteyPiranhaLover|PeteyPiranhaLover]] 22:24, 14 December 2006 (EST)

:No. He is a distinct and seperate character. -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]

== Another Name Idea ==

Nintendo's website's Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door page[http://www.nintendo.com/gamemini?gameid=3640b1f1-82f7-4c42-8aea-d8299816f8c4] refers to him as "ornery mini-Yoshi". Could "mini-Yoshi" be his name? They sorta say it like it's an official name, but the fact that "mini" isn't capitalized gives me a few doubts... --[[User:YellowYoshi398|YellowYoshi398]] 09:59, 6 January 2007 (EST)

Nope, not official. The game itself is more official-and the game never calls him any other name than the name you give him OR just Yoshi (or Gonzales Jr.). [[Image:Mayor.gif]]<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''[[User talk:Paper Jorge|aper]] '''[[User:Paper Jorge/sig|Jorge]]'''</font></span>

:The Japanese name for him is Chibi Yoshi (no joke!). {{user:Bentendo/sig}} - how ye like meh sig?

== Crazy Name Idea ==

I got one...maybe the article every time it says '''Yoshi Kid''' it will be replaced with <nowiki> {{'''User:Yourname/Yoshi Kid'''}} </nowiki> which contains the name you gave your Yoshi Kid.

People who don't have the game or haven't made that template, will see just '''Yoshi Kid'''. Possible? [[Image:Mayor.gif]]<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''[[User talk:Paper Jorge|aper]] '''[[User:Paper Jorge/sig|Jorge]]'''</font></span>

:Maybe the last sentence is not possible but... {{User:Paper Jorge/sig|Wanting his idea to work.}}

No way. Article shouldn't be made for personal names and such. {{User:Knife/sig1|Come on|what are you looking at?|Image:Mega_jump_badge.PNG|Red}}

Ok Come On. [[Image:Paperjorgesp.png]]<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''[[User talk:Paper Jorge|aper]] '''[[User:Paper Jorge/sig|Jorge]]'''</font></span> {{{1|}}}

:Oh, I really like that idea. Is it possibly though? {{User:Bentendo/sig}}

That's really kewl idea...

{{User:Great Gonzo/sig|'''Krayt''' is a parnter in...}}

:I think it's possible. {{User:Paper Jorge/sig|Yes}}

Let me see if I can do it.<br>[[User:Confused|<span style="color:Red;">I</span>]] [[User talk:Confused|<span style="color:Blue;">am</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Confused|<span style="color:Green;">Confused</span>]] 18:32, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

Eyup, it isn't possible. I think you should just leave it alone, it's too much effort to do.<br>[[User:Confused|<span style="color:Red;">I</span>]] [[User talk:Confused|<span style="color:Blue;">am</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Confused|<span style="color:Green;">Confused</span>]] 18:43, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

What about people who copied their file in the game from somebody else's memory card to their own memory card, like me?-KP Shadow

Maybe coding would be something like this:
<nowiki>
{{Yoshiname
|file1=
|file2=
|file3=
|file4=
|fileuse=1
}}
</nowiki>
[[User:Magic Koopa Guy|Magic Koopa Guy]] ([[User talk:Magic Koopa Guy|talk]]) 12:02, 17 March 2013 (EDT)

== Yoshi (kid) is better ==

Now this guy makes a cameo in ''Super Paper Mario'', and could appear in more games. Secondly, ''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door'' is NOT PM2. Techincally there is no PM2 &ndash; the sequel isn't numbered, but titled. {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 20:15, 14 April 2007 (EDT)
:Agreed. Moving. --{{User:Yoshi626/sig}} 20:24, 14 April 2007 (EDT)
::Done. --{{User:Yoshi626/sig}} 20:27, 14 April 2007 (EDT)
:::Yay, my idea stayed! {{User:Plumber/sig}}

==yoshis "job"==
dosnt yoshi kid also take parrakarrys job of getting over pits with hit float jump ability? the abilitys are very similar in effect. [[User:Dstroyer 666|Dstroyer 666]] 14:37, 6 August 2007 (EDT)

Yeah, but that doesn't seem much to note. You can add it if you want, though. {{User:Plumber/Pignature}} 14:40, 6 August 2007 (EDT)

it just didnt make much sense to have the lakilester note but not that im adding it [[User:Dstroyer 666|Dstroyer 666]] 17:42, 6 August 2007 (EDT)

==THE official name?==
Check out the E3 2004 Paper Mario 2 presentation on IGN. http://media.cube.ign.com/media/573/573664/vids_4.html (Part 1 or 2, I think. It's been very long since I viewed the video myself.) As you can clearly see, the Yoshi Kid is called "Feroshi". I think this is as official as it gets, guys. [[User:General Guy|General Guy]] 11:43, 3 September 2007 (EDT)
:Um, thats just what the player named the Yoshi, makes nothing really official. {{User:Xzelion/Signature}}
::Well, "the player" ''was'' a Nintendo representative. [[User:General Guy|General Guy]] 14:56, 3 September 2007 (EDT)
I agree with Xzelion/Signature, it is really just up to the player what he is named.  I think he should be just called Baby Yoshi for name purposes until we get an answer out of Nintendo of what he is supposed to be called. - Mr. L {{unsigned|202.151.73.10}}

What X said, and you can't skip naming it, so that means it's just Yoshi (Kid) {{User:Lario/sig}}

:It would just be like if my vid was on there Krayt (name of my yoshi) wouldn't be the official name, there is really no official name since the game leaves the name up to the player. {{User:Xzelion/Signature}}
::In my game, he's called Mini-Yoshi by [[Eddie the Mask]]. But I've got the German version... - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 12:00, 3 September 2007 (EDT)
::Like your vid? You mean you played the game before its release in front of a live audience at the E3 as a Nintendo representative, just like this guy? Nice! [[User:General Guy|General Guy]] 14:56, 3 September 2007 (EDT)

Is he called "Yoshi Kid" ingame? If no, maybe we could move the name to Mini-Yoshi.
[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]]
:Well, I don't know whether it's called Mini-Yoshi in the ''English'' version, I only have the German one. Also, the ''SPM'' Catch Card names him simply "Yoshi". - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 16:57, 3 September 2007 (EDT)
:: The fact that it's the German name is not a problem, just put the <nowiki>{{Anotherlanguage}}</nowiki>  template on the page.
[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]]
:::I'm sure the same sentence also appears in the English version of the game, and someone could check it what he is called there. Eddie talks about him after Chapter 6. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 17:20, 3 September 2007 (EDT)
::::I may play through the game again and see. {{User:Xzelion/Signature}}

== Questionable information ==

The article states that there's another Yoshi somewhere in the game (outside of battle) in ''Paper Mario: TYD''. I do remember seeing a ripped sprite of that Yoshi, but where in the game could you find it? -- ChaosMiles07 [[User:ChaosMiles07|*Chaøs Cøntrøl!*]] 00:45, 2 December 2007 (EST)

Occasionally on the Excess Express, he's green. -- [[User:Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]] 09:37, 2 December 2007 (EST)

Also, he doesn't appear on the first main trip, you need to take another ride afterwards. -- [[User: Booster|Booster]]

Okay, that makes sense then. Thanks. -- ChaosMiles07 [[User:ChaosMiles07|*Chaøs Cøntrøl!*]] 16:55, 7 December 2007 (EST)

== Name Game ==
:What if we changed it to "Unnamed Yoshi" since he has no official name? {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig|Who'da thunk?}}
::I'm starting to think we should change it to "Yoshi (PM:TTYD)", since he's the only noteworthy Yoshi in the game, and there are other Yoshi ''kids'' (Fearsome Five). -- [[User: Booster|Booster]]
:::That's a good point. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}}
::::I second this. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 02:26, 21 July 2008 (EDT)

Third it!--[[User:Luigi3000|User:Luigi3000&#124;Luigi3000]] 19:14, 28 August 2008 (EDT)

== Gonzales ==

Really I think he should be Gonzales Jr. cuz It was made bye himself so thats just as official as it gets so all who favor my idea say PIE!{{User:Luigi3000/sig}}I might take it to proposals if we cant agree on something.

==Parenthesis==
Excuse me, but I do not recall the yoshis in Paper Mario speaking in parenthesis. (The trivia states that unlike the other RPGs, this yoshi doesn't speak in parenthesis).--[[User:Topmonhit|Topmonhit]] 15:39, 21 December 2009 (EST)
:They do in ''[[Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars]]'', and I believe in the [[Mario & Luigi (series)|''Mario & Luigi'' series]] as well. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 15:45, 21 December 2009 (EST)
::Yes. But if "other RPGs" are insiniuting "non-Paper Mario RPGs", why is it specifically stated with just this character when it's all yoshis in the Paper Mario series? Just seems pointless or weird or off to me. One of those. Not sure which.--[[User:Topmonhit|Topmonhit]] 15:53, 21 December 2009 (EST)
:::Feel free to revise or remove the trivia point. Personally, I don't find it notable as a trivia. The "speaking in parentheses" is a mechanic to illustrate the character is speaking in another language, but is being translated for your convenience. The Yoshi Kid doesn't speak in parentheses because, quite obviously, he's speaking the same language as Mario. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 16:24, 21 December 2009 (EST)
::::Yeah, I basically see it as "TRIVIA!!!! this yoshi... is like EVERY OTHER YOSHI in paper mari ogames! also, it doesn't swallow things and has hair!"--[[User:Topmonhit|Topmonhit]] 16:35, 21 December 2009 (EST)

==Article name==
Can we settle this? The current name, with the game in parentheses, is atrociously long. Would anyone oppose moving it to simply "The Yoshi Kid"? While "Yoshi Kid" would be preferable, it's not necessarily a name but a title and it was brought up that there are "other" Yoshi "kids". Adding the ''the'' makes it obvious that this is a specific Yoshi kid. I just think it works better. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 02:54, 24 December 2009 (EST)
:Yoshi Kid sounds good. There are two Yoshis in TTYD(one is found on the Excess Express after you beat world 6) but this article only mentions the Yoshi partner... That just gave me another idea: Why not Yoshi (partner)? {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
::I agree with Fawfulfury65. Another suggestion for the article name is the name he is given when you do not enter a name. Unless Yoshi is his default name. {{user:Not Bugsy/sig|But Yoshi (partner) the best choice, I think.}}

I believe Yoshi is the default name - it's the closest thing to an "official name" for this character.  Although he is called the Great Gonzales Jr. as well... [[User:Culex|Culex]] 22:13, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

I put in the conjecture template, because Yoshi isn't the official name. "closest thing to and 'official name'" doesn't mean it is an official name. {{User:KS3/sig}} 17:11, 3 May 2010 (EDT)
:You are incorrect, KS3. "Yoshi" is the given name to this character if no name is given, thus making it official. {{User:Reversinator/sig}}

::Actually, it should not be moved. The latest appearance of the character was in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'', where it appeared as a sticker. The name was "Yoshi (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door)" and the latest reference always takes precedence, as per [[MarioWiki:Naming]].

::{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 01:23, 11 October 2012 (EDT)

== Yellow ==

A [http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/920182-paper-mario-the-thousand-year-door/58787540 topic] on GameFAQs says that somebody got a [[yellow Yoshi]]. Should we put it in?

{{User:DK and Diddy Kong vs Bowser and Bowser Jr./sig}}
:From the looks of the forum posts that follow it looks like spam (Captain Obvious to the rescue!), plus some random guy online is not the most reliable source, so no. IMO. {{User:Xzelion/sig}}

::A [[Yellow Yoshi]]'s typical behavioral traits would conflict with the character's scripted personality anyway; that's probably why it wasn't an optional color. If he came out yellow, he probably would've walked off in the middle of the [[Armored Harriers]] fight to go sleep until meal time. --[[User:Dus T.|Dus T.]] 13:58, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

== The base on the color timer ==

Is the timer that determines the Yoshi's color based on gameplay (meaning if you save and quit, the timer stops from save point to when you open your file), or does it refer to the [[GameCube]]/[[Wii]] clock like the [[Happy Lucky Lottery]] (meaning the timer keeps ticking no matter what)? --[[User:Dus T.|Dus T.]] 09:09, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

==I don't get it==

How are you supposed to hatch the egg to get a green one ''within'' six minutes?? That's, like, impossible!

[[User:Fawful117|Fawful117: The user arena! An awesome new thing!!!]] 13:34, 7 February 2012 (EST)

I did it. Also I believe if you are over the time for the last Yoshi color than it repeats the colors. SO that is actually possible to get a green Yoshi. Also this is more forums talk than discussion.{{User:YoshiGo99/sig}} 16:29, 7 February 2012 (EST)

== Any way to get GREEN yoshi NOT having the 2nd cycle? ==

Yeah I would prefer traditional things so I would like a GREEN yoshi kid. I played the game on my emulator and tried to "speedrun" that section within 6 mins, and ... finally got a RED yoshi. My emulation was slow enough, and I played the game as quickly as I could (but not like pros). So I'm asking if there's any way to beat that part in 6 mins (I mean, 6min*60s*60fps=21600 frames, not real 6 minutes, otherwise the game would have given me a random yoshi which is not necessarily green or red)?? [[user:670839245]] ([[user talk:670839245|local talk]] | [[wikia:w:c:zh.community:user talk:user670839245|leave personal message here]] | [[special:block/670839245|block locally]])17:17, 5 April 2014 (EDT)
I had no idea you could get another color that's not green in that game.  It was a nice surprise for me when he hatched and it turned out he was red!  In my next time playing through I'll test those theories on how to get a green one.  - Mr.L

== Mini-Yoshi ==

His smash trophy is called '''Mini-Yoshi.''' Should the name be changed to that since it's an official source? --{{User:Fawfulfan64/sig}} 19:10, 3 May 2015 (EDT)

== In the Italian version of Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Yoshi is indeed a Baby Yoshi ==

I just noticed that the Italian version of Wonky's tale about the Yoshi's colors reveals much more than the English version. You can see the actual text here:<br />
{{media link|WYPMTTYD_IT_1.png|Part 1}}, {{media link|WYPMTTYD_IT_2.png|Part 2}}, {{media link|WYPMTTYD_IT_3.png|Part 3}}, {{media link|WYPMTTYD_IT_4.png|Part 4}}, {{media link|WYPMTTYD_IT_5.png|Part 5}}, {{media link|WYPMTTYD_IT_6.png|Part 6}}<br />
Here is a translation:

''In the far far south, in a remote little island, the Yoshis live.''<br />
''As you surely know, MiniYoshis are Yoshis just hatched from the egss.''<br />
''It seems that based on the conditions when hatching, the MiniYoshi's color changes.''<br />
''To know what his color will be, you have to wait until he hatches from the egg.''<br />
''By the way, the color of your party's MiniYoshi is beautiful indeed!''<br />
''For sure when he grows up he will be a magnificent Yoshi!''

We can see two interesting aspects:
# MiniYoshis are clearly distinguished from Yoshis in that they are just hatched from the eggs,
# The Yoshi in Mario's party is clearly a MiniYoshi, not just a regular Yoshi,
Since ''MiniYoshi'' is a translation for ''Chibiyosshī'', which is the same name for Baby Yoshis used in ''Super Mario World'', it's clear that in the Italian version of ''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door'' Yoshi is a Baby Yoshi.
Now, it would be interesting to know, since the Italian version contains an explicit description of what a Baby Yoshi is, while the Japanese version even uses the same name from Super Mario World, if this different version of Wonky's tale stems directly from the Japanese version, or is just an addition made in the Italian version.<br />
What do you think? Can someone help in this?--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:25, 8 August 2015 (EDT)

== Move to Mini-Yoshi? ==

That's his trophy name in SSB4.  With this game being three years old, is there a reason we haven't moved it? -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 19:35, 20 November 2017 (EST)
:Well, in the Italian localization of ''[[Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door]]'', which is what I played, ''Miniyoshi'' has always been his name, and his Japanese name was always that of [[Baby Yoshi]]s rather than adult [[Yoshi (species)|Yoshi]]s, so I'm not opposed to moving it.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 21:01, 20 November 2017 (EST)
::Probably the same reason [[Tucks]] hasn't been moved to Tuck. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:03, 20 November 2017 (EST)
:::Maybe the same reason for [[Stars (enemy)]] as well. (I even asked Mario jc about that.) {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 21:06, 20 November 2017 (EST)
::::Tucks' figurine says "Tucks," trophy says "Tuck," and the guide uses "Tucks" as singular and plural. This wiki uses "Tuckses" as the plural, which seems to be speculation.[[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:12, 20 November 2017 (EST)
:::::I think this time there is a bit more juice to the claim made by SSB4, since the German and Italian localizations and the Japanese name indicate that Mini-Yoshi is not likely to be a typo.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 21:17, 20 November 2017 (EST)
::::::Should I go ahead and move it now? -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 21:32, 20 November 2017 (EST)

Go ahead, sure why not [[User:Chat Man|Chat Man]] ([[User talk:Chat Man|talk]]) 21:57, 20 November 2017 (EST)

== The Color ==

What is the point of giving him 7 palette swaps? It's not like they affect him in any way? {{unsigned|Dogleader}}