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#{{User|SmokedChili}} In ''Super Mario Sunshine'', there are two (well, three) kinds of Cheep Cheeps that have different behaviors; the orange ones and the fiery ones jump and swim, while the pink ones try to drag Mario further to the depths. They are all known as Cheep Cheeps without any unique words or alternative letters to make them different species. In Japan, this is the same with Boss Bass and Big Bertha, but the English ''SMB3'' guide gave them unique names, and that's very likely unreliable localization. So really, how would merging these two be any different from having two enemies with different behavior (and appearance) on the same article when they are universally considered the same enemies? | #{{User|SmokedChili}} In ''Super Mario Sunshine'', there are two (well, three) kinds of Cheep Cheeps that have different behaviors; the orange ones and the fiery ones jump and swim, while the pink ones try to drag Mario further to the depths. They are all known as Cheep Cheeps without any unique words or alternative letters to make them different species. In Japan, this is the same with Boss Bass and Big Bertha, but the English ''SMB3'' guide gave them unique names, and that's very likely unreliable localization. So really, how would merging these two be any different from having two enemies with different behavior (and appearance) on the same article when they are universally considered the same enemies? | ||
#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} As seen in the comments, it can be concluded with current knowledge that they are intended to be the same enemy species. We definitely know (not just from hearsay, but some physical scans to back this up) that the original Japanese guides do not distinguish between the two, and there are multiple licensed Japanese guidebook publications versus one single Nintendo Power player's guide. The mouth-brooding variant of the enemy has only directly appeared in ''Super Mario Bros. 3'', and their last mention so far (and it seems only in-game reference) was in ''Super Paper Mario''; therefore, it makes sense to place them in the same article and consider it Boss Bass unless specifically named otherwise. As for the Nintendo Comics System appearance of "Big Bertha" - it can be observed that she is an individual character named Bertha, so it makes the most sense to give her a separate "Bertha (''Nintendo Comics System'')" page to compensate. | #{{User|LinkTheLefty}} As seen in the comments, it can be concluded with current knowledge that they are intended to be the same enemy species. We definitely know (not just from hearsay, but some physical scans to back this up) that the original Japanese guides do not distinguish between the two, and there are multiple licensed Japanese guidebook publications versus one single Nintendo Power player's guide. The mouth-brooding variant of the enemy has only directly appeared in ''Super Mario Bros. 3'', and their last mention so far (and it seems only in-game reference) was in ''Super Paper Mario''; therefore, it makes sense to place them in the same article and consider it Boss Bass unless specifically named otherwise. As for the Nintendo Comics System appearance of "Big Bertha" - it can be observed that she is an individual character named Bertha, so it makes the most sense to give her a separate "Bertha (''Nintendo Comics System'')" page to compensate. | ||
#{{User| | #{{User|LinkTheLefty}} Per all. | ||
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