Talk:Super Princess

Seems like this form is just a variation of the Fire Form. The Show itself takes a lot of liberties with the Fire form, and it's often triggered by the Starman (and Fire Flower in other occasions), so the "super powerful, invincible" form in the Show has been generally conflated with Fire Mario. For instance, in The Unzappables, Mario is in this form to break free (like Peach here), and his transforms into this via Starman. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 16:57, January 27, 2024 (EST)

Merge to Fire Mario

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Current time: Monday, May 13, 2024, 05:45 GMT

While Toadstool has never been shown to throw fireballs, this form is, for all intents and purposes, the catch-all "Super Mario" form that's merged to Fire Mario. At the time, the show decided that Fire Mario is the Getafix potion-esque* super strength form (they even briefly look buff in Elvin Lives) by showing Mario, Luigi, and Toad not only throwing fireballs but also breaking down walls (The Great Gold Coin Rush), destroying whatever is bound to them (The Unzappables, Pirates of Koopa, Mario and Joliet), flapping their arms to fly (Brooklyn Bound), and whatnot. This is further illustrated by what triggers the form: both Fire Flowers (The Bird! The Bird!) and Superstars (Pirates of Koopa, 20,000 Koopas Under the Sea) commonly transform these characters (wand in Do You Princess Toadstool Take this Koopa...?, electrocution in Bad Rap, Excalibur, and magic doodad).

This shouldn't be split due to the liberties the show takes with the form. If there is a case against the merge, it should be a case for a split of separate article, say, "Super Mario (The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!)" from Fire Mario. However, this form is recognizable as Fire Mario due to its coloration, transformation from a Fire Flower, and common ability to shoot fire, so I don't recommend a split. Either way, this article shouldn't stay, and it should be in the same page as the other super forms, on the Fire Mario article.

If this proposal passes, the Super Princess article will change to a disambiguation page between the Super Mario form (from the games), Super Princess Peach, and the Fire Mario form.

*_{Asterix note: Other Americans will probably not get this reference so bear with me.}

Proposer: Mario (talk)
Deadline: February 12, 2024, 23:59 GMT

Support merge to Fire Mario

1. Mario (talk) See a quick list on Fire Mario's page showing a rundown of all the Fire Mario appearances. If you're not convinced, you'll see what I mean hopefully. Briefly pretend the "Trojan Horse" bullet point doesn't exist, I inserted that information while not realizing there was a separate page for this form.
2. Hewer (talk) Thought this was already merged but per proposal.
3. SolemnStormcloud (talk) Per proposal.
4. ThePowerPlayer (talk) Per proposal.
5. Camwoodstock (talk) Per proposal--this is yet another weird bit of wiki jank that only exists because of something from the 2000s-early 2010s that just never got questioned, so this is pretty overdue.
6. EvieMaybe (talk) per proposal

Comments on "Merge to Fire Mario"

From what I can tell, this is one of those pages that's been around since the early days of the wiki and never really thought of until now. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 08:51, January 30, 2024 (EST)

Created in 2007 and edited very seldom since. You're on the money. ~Camwoodstock (talk) 22:48, January 31, 2024 (EST)