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::::I don't see any reason we should delete this. Of course some are ridiculously obvious ([[Pier Pressure]] anyone?). But it's fine them being in both articles. I mean, what's the harm? I also agree with Jordan's reasoning, the puns list was part of not one, but ELEVEN articles, and we shouldn't just throw it all away. My point is, the puns list works; there's no point in changing it. {{User|Technickal}} | ::::I don't see any reason we should delete this. Of course some are ridiculously obvious ([[Pier Pressure]] anyone?). But it's fine them being in both articles. I mean, what's the harm? I also agree with Jordan's reasoning, the puns list was part of not one, but ELEVEN articles, and we shouldn't just throw it all away. My point is, the puns list works; there's no point in changing it. {{User|Technickal}} | ||
:::::Technickal, let me ask you a question; What exactly is lost by removing the lists? All the minigame articles already have their respective puns in their articles, as long as they're not obvious ones, so all that's really being lost is bad information that some of us have already removed on several other articles. {{User|GreenDisaster}} | :::::Technickal, let me ask you a question; What exactly is lost by removing the lists? All the minigame articles already have their respective puns in their articles, as long as they're not obvious ones, so all that's really being lost is bad information that some of us have already removed on several other articles. {{User|GreenDisaster}} | ||
===Create a standard on Prima guides=== | |||
<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">DELETED BY THE PROPOSER</span><br> | |||
Aight, I know this is somewhat minor, but it applies to [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Prima_Games|multiple articles]] on the wiki, so it warrants more than a talk page proposal.. I suggest that we create a standard on whether or not Prima guides should even be mentioned in articles. Prima guides up until Galaxy were all unofficial; instead, Nintendo Power handled the official guides. If I remember correctly, New Super Mario Bros. was the final official guide produced by Nintendo Power. Please correct me if I'm wrong in saying that Galaxy was the first official Prima guide. I want this to be as accurate as possible. | |||
But I digress. I believe we should decide whether or not to include Prima's information, prior to Galaxy, in articles on the wiki. For example, on the [[Gloomba]] page, it says "In the Prima Super Paper Mario strategy guide, it states that Gloombas have the ability to poison the player, although this is false." This would be deleted, since the Prima guide is unofficial. However, on the [[Preying Mantas]] page, it says "In the Prima Official Game Guide for Super Mario Galaxy 2, Preying Mantas are called Jammyfish." This would stay, since that particular Prima guide is the official guide. If anyone wants, I can post a list of current articles that would and would not be affected. | |||
It is my opinion that we should omit all of Prima's information (prior to Galaxy). Many a mention of Prima guides on the wiki is something that the company incorrectly stated in their guide. I think it's redundant to state something that an unofficial source got wrong. Of course, if the official source was incorrect, it absolutely should be added, thus the "prior to Galaxy" bit. | |||
'''Proposer''': {{user|Bloc Partier}}<br> | |||
'''Deadline''': September 17, 2012, 23:59 GMT | |||
====Remove Prima Information Prior to Super Mario Galaxy==== | |||
#{{user|Bloc Partier}} - See my statement above. (Note: First, this proposal does not mean I'll become an active user again, so don't ask. Second, I'm going on vacation for a week during this proposal; I won't check on it during that time.) | |||
#{{User|Koopa K}} It took me a little while to understand what you were saying. Still, once I realized, I strongly support this. Would we use an unofficial source for games now? No. So why should we use an unofficial source for the games then? Simple, we wouldn't. (BTW, I think Super Paper Mario was last one Nintendo Power did that was official.) | |||
====Do Nothing==== | |||
#{{User|Glowsquid}} - Some (a lot) of the Prima guides made before 2007 are official-those have "official [something] guide" on the cover (granted, that may be a silly standard, but otoh, Nintendo would have certainly grilled Prima if they were falsely claiming their material as officialy licensed). They're "less" official due to having an additional degree of separation from Nintendo, but stuff from a pre-2007 Prima guide can still be used when Nintendo Power doesn't give anything/nobody on the wiki owns the Nintendo Power guide. For example, the name for the [[Wario World]] midbosses come from the prima guide. | |||
#{{User|Raven Effect}} Per Glowsquid. | |||
#{{User|JORDAN DEBONO}} Per Glowsquid. | |||
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per Glowsquid. | |||
#{{User|MarioSmasher}} – Per Glowsquid. | |||
#{{User|Mario4Ever}} Per all. | |||
#{{User|MeritC}} Per all. | |||
====Comments==== | |||
@Koopa K: <s>I'll clarify with examples.</s> EDIT: Done. - {{user|Bloc Partier}} | |||
@Glowsquid: I see your point, but I think most of the Prima guides dodge legislation thanks to their claim of "''Prima's'' Official Guide." Anyhow, I totally see your point on the Wario World thing, but that still leaves us with the multitudes of "Prima got this wrong lol" comments. Perhaps this should be a case by case application and not a proposal. In which case I'd rather just delete this than deal with the whole thing. - {{user|Bloc Partier}} |
Revision as of 06:39, September 5, 2012
Remove level articles of levels that have namesVETOED BY Template:Color-link-piped Template:Color-link-piped
There are no level articles for levels named 1-1 and 2-2, but there are articles for levels named Awesome and such. There have been proposals to create articles for the "non-named" levels, but they have been turned down. We want consistency right? So, I say keep consistency and merge, the "named" levels into their world articles. There isn't anything special about "named" levels besides the name. This level deserves an article as much as this one. So, as all else has failed before, neither of them deserve their own page. The only ones that should be kept are, obviously, places that have more than one level/boss fight in 3D platformers such as, Bob-omb Battlefield, Bianco Hills, Good Egg Galaxy, and Bowser in the Dark World. Easy enough to understand right? Proposer: Koopa K (talk) Support
OpposeCommentsAll those areas you mentioned as keeping their articles could actually be considered to be the 3D equivalents of World articles (while the missions/episodes/whatever that happen in them would be the "Levels"), which makes things a lot more straightforward: Worlds get articles, Levels don't. - Walkazo (talk) So you want to merge all of the Super Mario World levels, right? GreenDisaster (talk)
Puns on the Mario Party articlesREMOVE PUNS 11-2 Proposer: GreenDisaster (talk) Remove Puns Section
Keep Puns Section
CommentsAnd here are the articles that will be affected.
@JORDAN DEBONO It wouldn't be totally deleted just put into the minigame article. Koopa K (talk)
Ok look the 3+ thing was just an exaggeration ALTHOUGH all those game have 3+ on the box so you never quite know. And where will the pun article go, inside the minigame article? I don't fully understand this. Also @GreenDisaster, I was offline at the time so I couldn't respond anyone. JORDAN DEBONO (talk)
Well that does kind of change my initial reasoning although seeing that the odds are against me and Technickal I will continue to support my vote. Thanks anyway, JORDAN DEBONO (talk)
All right, if you're going to go with that angle... Currently, several of us on the forums have agreed to remove any pieces of trivia that are speculation, dumb, coincidental, or, most relevantly, obvious. And like I said, the obvious ones required no work, and the others just required a quick Google search. Besides, the point of this proposal is to remove the list of puns from the articles. You can create a separate proposal and argue about the obvious trivia there, but right now, it's irrelevant. GreenDisaster (talk)
Create a standard on Prima guidesDELETED BY THE PROPOSER But I digress. I believe we should decide whether or not to include Prima's information, prior to Galaxy, in articles on the wiki. For example, on the Gloomba page, it says "In the Prima Super Paper Mario strategy guide, it states that Gloombas have the ability to poison the player, although this is false." This would be deleted, since the Prima guide is unofficial. However, on the Preying Mantas page, it says "In the Prima Official Game Guide for Super Mario Galaxy 2, Preying Mantas are called Jammyfish." This would stay, since that particular Prima guide is the official guide. If anyone wants, I can post a list of current articles that would and would not be affected. It is my opinion that we should omit all of Prima's information (prior to Galaxy). Many a mention of Prima guides on the wiki is something that the company incorrectly stated in their guide. I think it's redundant to state something that an unofficial source got wrong. Of course, if the official source was incorrect, it absolutely should be added, thus the "prior to Galaxy" bit. Proposer: Bloc Partier (talk) Remove Prima Information Prior to Super Mario Galaxy
Do Nothing
Comments@Koopa K: @Glowsquid: I see your point, but I think most of the Prima guides dodge legislation thanks to their claim of "Prima's Official Guide." Anyhow, I totally see your point on the Wario World thing, but that still leaves us with the multitudes of "Prima got this wrong lol" comments. Perhaps this should be a case by case application and not a proposal. In which case I'd rather just delete this than deal with the whole thing. - Bloc Partier (talk) |