MarioWiki:Proposals

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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done.
  • Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!"
  • "Vote" periods last for one week.
  • All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{user|User name}}. Signing with the signature code ~~~(~) is not allowed due to technical issues.

How To

  1. Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
  2. Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
    1. Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
    2. Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
    3. Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
  3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
  4. At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
  5. "# " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
  6. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
  7. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
  8. Proposals can not be made about System Operator promotions and demotions. Sysops can only be promoted and demoted by the will of Bureaucrats.
  9. There shouldn't be proposals about creating articles on a underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
  10. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than sixty (60) days old.

The times are in EDT (UTC -4:00), and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: 06:10, 9 May 2024 (EST)

New Features

Change Calendar to Featured Images on Main Page

Of all the sections on the main page, I find the Calendar to be the least useful, so I am proposing to replace it with a Featured Image section. The Featured Image would highlight high quality, interesting, witty, provocative, rare, and important images that can be found in articles on the Mario Wiki. The Featured Image would be selected by a vote just like the Featured Poll. The image would be updated every week and would be selected by the wiki's users. On a new Featured Image Selection page, users could nominate an image (probably just linking to the page instead of putting the image on the selection page), give some reasons for the nomination if they want to (i.e., let us know what makes this image so special) and users can then Support or Oppose. The Featured Image of the week will be decided by subtracting the number of opposes from the number of supports - the image with the most "points" will be featured. Any image with negative points (that is a majority of opposes) after a week will be removed from the selection process. The only condition for images that can be nominated is that they must be in an actual mainspace article in the wiki. No personal images or others; only images that can actually be found in the wiki's articles will be allowed.

Proposer: Son of Suns (talk)
Deadline: April 9, 2009, 17:00

Change to Featured Images

  1. Son of Suns (talk) - Per my reasons above.
  2. Twentytwofiftyseven (talk) - Nobody maintains the calender. In the six months that it's been running, it has been on time twice. It was 28 hours late this month, which really is plenty of time to make the wiki look silly and unprofessional. A featured image would, I believe, be more popular and better maintained.
  3. Time Q (talk) - Per SoS and 2257. I've always wondered what the point of the calendar is. Does anybody actually look at it and go, "ZOMG, game X was released Y years ago, let's celebrate this day!"? The Featured Image thing, on the contrary, seems like a good idea to implement. It could actually make the main page look better, and that's what the page's point is, isn't it?
  4. Betaman (talk) - Featured images sounds more interesting than a calender im my opinion.
  5. Paper Yoshi (talk) - Per all. I hope the Featured Image's support and oppose system works better than the Poll Selection one. And the Calendar isn't useful in my opinion. If someone wants to know when a game was released, he/she just has to see the game's article.
  6. White Knight (talk) - Per all.
  7. Bloc Partier (talk) - Though it is interesting to see what games came out around the time, the calendar is not that interesting and is never prepared on time. Chop it. Also, FI's sound cool.
  8. Randoman123456789 (talk) - Featured image: good idea. Calender: bad idea. By that comparison, I mean per all.
  9. Walkazo (talk) - Per all.
  10. Stooben Rooben (talk) -- Per all. I never found the calendar to be a really great feature anyway. There are tons of high-quality images on this site that would be great to see on the Main Page.
  11. Super-Yoshi (talk) Per all.
  12. Zafum (talk) - I think having a featured image is a great idea; I just hope that it's much much better than the calender thingy.
  13. Corka Cola (talk) I think the Calendar is useless because no one cares about old release dates unless the game is getting re-released. This is a great idea that would coexist with the Featured Articles!! I think everyone should get together and go through the Main Page to get rid of sections we dislike and consider a waste of space. SoS got a Head Start!!
  14. add the calender to the 'shroom and replace with featured pic. also, yes change the quote of day name. Lu-igi board 14:47, 5 April 2009 (EDT)

Keep Calendar

  1. Tucayo (talk) We can have both, i find the calendar useful and informative. Also, there may be many problems for choosing a FI, and there may not be many images deserving that title

Comments

Why don't do BOTH? there's enough space when you see it on my webbrowser. Arend (talk)

Because the calendar is not very attractive to being with. At least in my opinion. -- Son of Suns (talk)
I think we can do both! I think the calendar is pretty handy, but the Featured Images are great, too! Arend (talk)
The Calendar doesn't work as part of the main page, but perhaps it could still be used as part of The 'Shroom. If someone is put in charge of the Calendar as if it were a 'Shroom section, hopefully that would mean it won't be neglected so much. - Walkazo (talk)
That's a good idea. -- Son of Suns (talk)
Thanks! - Walkazo (talk)
As Sub-Director, I fully support that idea. -- Stooben Rooben (talk)

While we're on the subject of the main page, should we consider removing the QOTD? It's not even a QOTD, just a random quote generated each time. We could also do something like change the coding and add an actual quote, rather than DPL. Super-Yoshi (talk)

NO! I think it's fun. But yeah, we can better rename it. Maybe just: The Random Chosen Quote? Arend (talk)
More like "The Quote Chosen By A Random Generator That No One Actually Randomly Picks." >_> But yeah, I've said chop off the QOTD for a while now. Bloc Partier (talk)
I made a version of the QOTD that actually picks a quote based on the date, here. What's there is unfinished, though. Eventually, llquote would be integrated into the main deal, but I don't want to do that until I know people are interested. Also, I'm not guaranteeing it won't suddenly start splitting atoms. Use at your own risk.Twentytwofiftyseven (talk)
Well, I just merged it. Assuming it works correctly, which I can't test, the only possible alteration at this point would be to add support for leap days. I'm not doing that. After doing this, I can understand why Wayoshi thought {{RandomQuote}} would be better. >_> Twentytwofiftyseven (talk)

I do the Calendar of Events for the Shroom, which was released last month. I could edit it, because I'd love to bring some peace to editing the Main Page!! Check out my Proposal below!! Corka Cola (talk)

Removals

Let Members Go Through Main Page To Eliminate Unwanted Sections

The proposal above by Son of Suns (talk) got me thinking, how many sections are unwanted or useless to the Main Page? All Members of any rank will be worth 1 Point for every positive vote, -1 for negative vote. I'll change it if complained. If approved, I'll see if we can get individual pages for voting for each section that will last 1 week. Most likely, it'll go in order based on their location on the Main Page. Anytime during the week after approval, anyone may voice new Section Ideas on this Proposals page. Let's begin voting and see change!!

Proposer: Corka Cola (talk)
Deadline: April 12, 2009, 15:00

Let Voting Take Place

  1. Corka Cola (talk)- Since I was the Creator of this proposal, per above.

Leave As Is

  1. Son of Suns (talk) - I don't think we need to go through a big voting fiasco to change the main page. We should just stick to the normal channels - main page talk page discussions and proposals.
  2. Bloc Partier (talk) - Per SoS.
  3. Paper Yoshi (talk) - Per SoS.
  4. Stooben Rooben (talk) -- Per SoS and my comment below.
  5. Walkazo (talk) - Per all.

Comments

I am seeing disorganizatiopn in editing the Main Page, disgust in Members based on what it contains. Let's just see what the people want.Corka Cola (talk)

Lol, Patrollers are less important than Sysops. You do realize this, yes? Bloc Partier (talk)
More importantly, why should being a sysop/patroller/whatever make someone's opinion more important than anyone else's? Twentytwofiftyseven (talk)
I agree. All members here are equal. Just because certain members have more power than others doesn't make them better, more valuable, or more important; it makes them more experienced. -- Stooben Rooben (talk)
Also, lots of members are just as (if not more) active as many of the Admins, so weighting votes differently based on rank would be even more unfair for them. - Walkazo (talk)
Changed it so everyone is equal. Sorry, just didn't understand!! Corka Cola (talk)

Splits & Merges

None at the moment.

Changes

None at the moment.

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.

 

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