MarioWiki:Main Page talk archive 24

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Main Page Layout Suggestions

The QOTD should be directly below the notice template. No one's going to scroll to the bottom of the page to see a quote every day. For the same reason, the Latest Proposal should be above the Mario Calendar. Also, the QOTD should be called the random quote instead since it IS random and changes every time :| ^Plumber 18:09, 8 February 2009 (EST)

Disagree with the first, agree with the second. I say we torch the QOTD, but that's just my boredom speaking. BLOC PARTIER.

I agree with moving the proposal template above the Mario Calendar.

As for QOTD.... Well, I should say we scrape the random quoting entirely and instead use the Wookiepedia system of voting for what quotes goes on the Main page. But that's just me. --Blitzwing 06:49, 9 February 2009 (EST)

While we are discussing this, would anyone want to get rid of the calendar and replace it with something else? It's the one template I never use. -- Son of Suns (talk)

I'm all for scrapping QOTD. It's really useless, IMO. It doesn't provide the main page with any information. I feel that we should also have the "Latest Proposal" directly next to the Featured Article. Mario News and the Mario Calendar should be kept side by side directly under those. — Stooben Rooben 14:32, 9 February 2009 (EST)

I also agree with getting rid of QOTD. Most of the randomly selected quotes aren't that great, and voting for yet another feature (especially one that needs to be switched every day) is too much trouble for what it's worth; the "Did You Now?" thing is enough to get people interested in random articles. However, I think the "Latest Proposal" should stay beneath the "FA" and "Mario News" templates, since Wiki Policy probably concerns less people than upcoming Mario events. The people that do care will scroll down before moving on. As for the Calendar, I wouldn't mind if we got rid of it, but as long as we don't have another fiasco like at the beginning of this month, I wouldn't mind if we kept it either. - Walkazo 19:22, 9 February 2009 (EST)

We can have something like Mariowiki's info, like "Mariowiki was founded, etc" Or, how many members are or something like that ™ Yes

Templates Needed?

I was wondering if we could do with a television show template and a film/anime template? The former would apply to many pages (Supercade, the DiC cartoons) and the later would apply to at the American film and the four Japanese animes. Would anyone else find them useful? And, more importantly, would anyone be willing and able to made them? Stumpers! 17:08, 10 February 2009 (EST)

I'm not sure what you mean...aren't those speculative groupings? -- Son of Suns (talk)

Only if you consider "these are television shows" to be speculative... I'm not sure what YOU mean! :) We could make a template for the ONE film, but I would think that there would be some overlap between the relevant information about the anime and the movies... look, I'm horrible when it comes to templates, so I don't want to ask for three of them... even asking for one feels weird. If you think it would be better to have three templates... whatever floats your boat. Now, while I'm stabbing in the dark trying to figure out what you meant, do you mean grouping the four Amada productions would be speculative? Stumpers! 17:41, 11 February 2009 (EST)

I'm still kinda lost...okay. We have a Super Mario Bros. Super Show template, right? So we should make an individual template for each television series. We should also make a template for the Super Mario Bros. film. And...I am pretty sure The Great Mission to Save Princess Peach was not made by Amada, but made by several other companies including Toei. It's a stand alone product, just like the SMB film, so that would also get its own template. But the three Amada OVA re-tellings could have one template, as they are part of a definite series, as indicated by the use of the "Super Mario" title and the same ending credits. Am I making sense now? =) -- Son of Suns (talk) P.S. You know who's good at making templates... =P

Right, we have templates for individual Super Show episodes, but we have no template to go on the literal pages for The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!, The Saturday Supercade, The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3, etc. follow those links and you'll see - no template on any of 'em! I checked, btw, and it turns out I was misinformed about the Amada thing - they had little to no involvement in the anime, which makes a lot of sense, really. This is what happens when fansites don't check their sources. >:( I suppose, since we have individual templates for all of the different television shows' episodes (one for Super Show, one for DKC, etc.), we'd also need one for the Saturday Supercade, once those articles start getting created (working on it...). Really, as long as you can and want to make the templates, fire away and make as many as you want. I was just trying to limit the number required! Thanks! Stumpers! 18:33, 11 February 2009 (EST)

Ohhhhhhhhh.........I understand now. You are talking about like a profile template that appears right at the beginning. I was talking about templates you place at the bottom of articles. In that case, maybe we should create three templates: one for television shows (which would include number of episodes and original run of the series, etc.), one for films (we have two - SMB and Great Mission to Save Toadstool; both were released theatrically, so we should state when and where they were released in theaters, along with run time, etc.), and then we can have one about OVAs (including release date, length of video, etc.). So...yeah...three templates would be all we need, I think. -- Son of Suns (talk) P.S. We really need to split the Super Mario Amada Series article.

Hecks yes. After the finals and holidays I'd almost forgot about that. ...one more thing to do before I start the Saturday Supercade... Stumpers! 20:30, 11 February 2009 (EST)

Cool. Well, we should generate a list of criteria for each of the three templates, and then go about creating them (perhaps enlisting the help of the self-proclaimed creator of 20% of the wiki's templates...) -- Son of Suns (talk)

Based on Wikipedia’s templates (shameful of me to rip off, I know…), here would be a list of parameters for the templates… of course, I didn’t rip off Wikipedia or the Saturday Supercade template because they don’t have one. :)

• Television program – I’ve gone through this page and picked out what is applicable to us… check it out for inspiration.
  • General
    • Show name
    • Image
    • Image size
    • Image caption
    • Alternate show names (ie other languages, common abbreviations)
    • Genre
    • Format
    • Creator(s) (separated by line breaks)
    • Developer(s) (again, line breaks)
    • Writer(s) (like, the five most common)
    • Director(s)
    • Creative director(s)
    • Presenter(s) (only applicable for King Koopa’s Kool Kartoons)
    • Starring (live actors)
    • Voices (voice actors)
    • Theme music composer
    • Opening theme (name)
    • Closing theme (name)
    • Composer (of incidental music)
    • Country (of origin… include flag)
    • Language (original)
    • Seasons (number of)
    • Episodes (number of linked to the section of article or separate article with episode list)
  • Production
    • Executive producer
    • Producer
    • Editor
    • Location (production location, only used if different from the country of origin on Wikipedia… not sure if we need this even)
    • Cinematography (director of cinematography or lead camera man… only if we have the information from the Super Show would we need this I believe…)
    • Camera (Single-camera or Multi-camera… again, only if we can find for the Super Show)
    • Runtime (episode duration not including commercials)
    • Company (production company… ie DiC)
    • Distributor (distributor company)
  • Broadcast
    • Original channel (ie CBS for the Supercade)
    • Picture format (video/film format the show was originally recorded and broadcast in. Examples include NTSC, PAL, and Film)
    • Audio format (ie stereo)
    • First run (country where it was first broadcast… only needed if we have a show for which this is different than country of origin)
    • First aired (beginning date of the original run)
    • Last aired (ending date of the original run… should be on the same line as “first aired” to read something like [date 1] to [date 2])
    • Status (Airing, Hiatus, Ended)
  • Chronology
    • Preceded by (applicable for the DiC trilogy – the order was Super Show, Adventures of SMB3, and SMW)
    • Followed by (see preceded by)
    • Related (the DiC trilogy would have a link to King Koopa's Kool Kartoons here, for example)

• Film (heavily taken from Wikipedia: see here.
  • Name
  • Image
  • Image size
  • Caption
  • Director(s)
  • Producer(s)
  • Writer(s)
  • Narrator (only applies to SMB, which only has one narrator, so no need for (s))
  • Starring
  • Composer(s)
  • Cinematography
  • Editor(s)
• Production and Distribution
  • Studio (company that produced the film… I don’t believe we need plural here either)
  • Distributor(s) (company that distributed the film)
  • Release date(s)
  • Running time
  • Country (in which the film was produced)
  • Language (in which the film originally was released)
  • Budget
  • Gross revenue (can be found at Box Office Mojo, apparently…)

• Original video animation (heavily taken from here and here)
  • Title
  • Image
  • Image size
  • Caption
  • Kanji/Kana name (does this apply to us?)
  • Genre
  • Director(s)
  • Writer(s)
  • Studio
  • Released
  • Runtime
  • Episodes (number of linked to a section or page with the episode list… technically this is supposed to be for a single OVA released with multiple episodes, but since we have an article for each… I dunno)
  • Preceded by
  • Followed by

• The Saturday Supercade episode (taken from the Mario Wiki… yay us!)
  • General
    • Title
    • Image
    • Image size
    • Caption
  • Production and Chronology
    • Writer(s)
    • Season
    • Original broadcast
    • Preceded by
    • Followed by
  • Plot Information
    • Setting
    • Minor protagonists
    • Villain(s)

Wow. I pity the guys who created the templates this is based off of, and whoever wants to take on this job. :( Stumpers! 16:41, 12 February 2009 (EST)

Interestin info

Here is some interestin info about the wiki here ™ Nothing to say...

o!! There's something odd about it... It said that MW Expires on Aug 12,09 :o Grapes