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::::All those references would be official though, as they are given legitimacy through Nintendo's approval to include such content on its systems.  They are all officially licensed by Nintendo, which is the standard for being claimed as "official" according to [[MarioWiki:Canonicity]].  If they appeared on a non-Nintendo system, then it might not be official. For example, Mario references in Alex Kidd in Shinobi World and Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts, would not be official cameos, but simply passing references not authorized by Nintendo.  In games licensed by Nintendo, even if the reference was created by a third-party, like Phillips or Squre-Enix or Rare or THQ, it would simply act like an official cameo.  Just as we have cross-overs between Mario and third-party characters developed by third-party companies and approved by Nintendo, we also have Mario cameos in third-party games licensed by Nintendo.  Nintendo did not have to license the production of Banjo-Pilot and Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty's Revenge, but because it did, and gave the games its Official Seal of Quality, it established that any references made are approved by Nintendo.  The Official seal means "that this product is licensed or manufactured by Nintendo."  There is approval by Nintendo, and it is not up to the wiki to decide what has more approval than something else. Some games for Nintendo systems, like [[:Wikipedia:Bible Adventures|Bible Adventures]], were not licensed by Nintendo, so any references in those games would be unofficial. We are not simply saying any game that appears on a Nintendo system is official, only those games with the Official Seal, which is a sign of legitimacy. That doesn't mean we can't organize this info to make it less prominent (put it in a cameo section, etc.), but the content itself is official. -- {{User|Son of Suns}} P.S. The problem with the [[references]] pages is not the video game references, as I believe those are all officially licensed cameos.  The problem is when Mario is mentined on TV shows or in songs obviously not approved by Nintendo.  They are just passing references made by others, not a product licensed by Nintendo.
::::All those references would be official though, as they are given legitimacy through Nintendo's approval to include such content on its systems.  They are all officially licensed by Nintendo, which is the standard for being claimed as "official" according to [[MarioWiki:Canonicity]].  If they appeared on a non-Nintendo system, then it might not be official. For example, Mario references in Alex Kidd in Shinobi World and Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts, would not be official cameos, but simply passing references not authorized by Nintendo.  In games licensed by Nintendo, even if the reference was created by a third-party, like Phillips or Squre-Enix or Rare or THQ, it would simply act like an official cameo.  Just as we have cross-overs between Mario and third-party characters developed by third-party companies and approved by Nintendo, we also have Mario cameos in third-party games licensed by Nintendo.  Nintendo did not have to license the production of Banjo-Pilot and Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty's Revenge, but because it did, and gave the games its Official Seal of Quality, it established that any references made are approved by Nintendo.  The Official seal means "that this product is licensed or manufactured by Nintendo."  There is approval by Nintendo, and it is not up to the wiki to decide what has more approval than something else. Some games for Nintendo systems, like [[:Wikipedia:Bible Adventures|Bible Adventures]], were not licensed by Nintendo, so any references in those games would be unofficial. We are not simply saying any game that appears on a Nintendo system is official, only those games with the Official Seal, which is a sign of legitimacy. That doesn't mean we can't organize this info to make it less prominent (put it in a cameo section, etc.), but the content itself is official. -- {{User|Son of Suns}} P.S. The problem with the [[references]] pages is not the video game references, as I believe those are all officially licensed cameos.  The problem is when Mario is mentined on TV shows or in songs obviously not approved by Nintendo.  They are just passing references made by others, not a product licensed by Nintendo.
:::::Ah.  That completely changes things.  I was under the illusion that the Nintendo Seal went on every title released for the system.  I was not aware that it went beyond that. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 16:48, 17 December 2008 (EST)