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:::@Doomhiker, wait, a counterproposal? I'd agree for a counterproposal, but i don't really know how to propose it... And what should i add as informations for the proposal... IMO, there should be 4 option. The first 3 ones are the same as the first proposal and the 4th one, is allowing the book to be cited minus the Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins pages. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 08:10, 16 January 2019 (EST) --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 06:51, 16 January 2019 (EST)
:::@Doomhiker, wait, a counterproposal? I'd agree for a counterproposal, but i don't really know how to propose it... And what should i add as informations for the proposal... IMO, there should be 4 option. The first 3 ones are the same as the first proposal and the 4th one, is allowing the book to be cited minus the Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins pages. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 08:10, 16 January 2019 (EST) --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 06:51, 16 January 2019 (EST)
::::Better idea: don't. Not only will it not pass given the margin of the original one (with most people who voted demonstrating a clear understanding of the situation), it'll just annoy people. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 06:46, 17 January 2019 (EST)
::::Better idea: don't. Not only will it not pass given the margin of the original one (with most people who voted demonstrating a clear understanding of the situation), it'll just annoy people. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 06:46, 17 January 2019 (EST)
:::::So, is this was what Alex95 meant by saying "shaking up the wiki"? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 06:47, 17 January 2019 (EST)
== Pop this article ==
{{SettledTPP}}
{{ProposalOutcome|green|Pop it 8-0}}
Now that my proposal on the pipe Lakitu has passed, let's delve on this: This split really makes no sense. It's about as comparable as the Dragoneel situation, now that we have evidence that these Goombas are not separate species. If you're gonna argue with "Para-Kuri" or "Para-Bomb" from SMW, these were given clear distinctions. These Goombas are listed along normal Goombas in Encyclopédia (and IIRC, Mario Portal)
'''Proposer:''' {{User|FanOfYoshi}}
<br>'''Deadline:''' January 2nd, 2024, 23:59 GMT
===Pop it===
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Per '''Pop'''-osal.
#{{User|Sparks}} These are just Goombas that float with balloons. When they land on the ground, they act like '''typical Goombas'''. Per FanOfYoshi.
#{{User|Killer Moth}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} Per all; this is ''literally'' just a Goomba with a balloon strapped to it. This feels a little comparable to the parachute'd enemies in ''Maker 2'', where we don't exactly have a ton of articles for all the parachute enemies aside from the ones that have already appeared outside of ''Maker 2''. (Granted, this comparison would probably make more sense if there were more balloon enemies than just Goombas, but y'know...)
#{{User|Biggestman}} While i do have a slight personal connection to this stupid thing, it is still just a Goomba with a Balloon. Per all.
#{{User|SolemnStormcloud}} Another one for the BJAODN archive. Per all.
#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} Per all.
#{{User|Mushroom Head}} Per all.
===Let it soar free===
<s>#{{User|PrincessPeachFan}} Yeah, I don't really care. They still have unique looks and everything.</s>
===Comments===
<s>So, should we merge stuff like the Innertube Goombas if this passes? [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 08:56, December 19, 2023 (EST)</s>
:To be fair, these were distinguished from normal Goombas, unlike the balloon ones. Also, i know that might not have been your intent, but the "I don't really care" felt a little discourteous. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 09:11, December 19, 2023 (EST)
Camwoodstock mentioning the parachutes also makes me think why we don't have an article on the Parachute yet. The ''Mario Maker 2'' icons for the Parachute are currently awkwardly merged to the [[Parabomb]] gallery, and [[Parachute]] currently is a disambiguation page that doesn't even list the course element, even though [[Wings]] has a separate article. And Parachutes also appear in games outside of ''Mario Maker'' as well.<br>Another reason what makes me think this is because we don't have articles on the dandelion pappi from ''[[Super Mario Bros. Wonder]]'', nor any enemies that use these as parachutes, so I foolishly thought things like Dandelion Goomba were already merged to things like Parachute Goomba, when articles like those doesn't exist either. {{User:Arend/sig}} 17:57, December 19, 2023 (EST)
:Are we saying the Parachute itself should be its own article at any point, or not? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 05:16, December 20, 2023 (EST)
::I mean, if [[Wings]] got an article, why not Parachute? We don't need to go through a history of Parachute Galoomba and Parabomb again, but the enemies could be mentioned as part of the inspiration, and maybe the parachute that Goomba has in ''[[Mario Party 2]]'' and ''[[Mario Party 3]]''; other than that, the article itself could be about the course element from ''Super Mario Maker 2''. {{User:Arend/sig}} 12:23, December 20, 2023 (EST)
:::Various items use them in ''[[Yoshi Topsy-Turvy]]'', as well, acting as a downward-moving counterpart to the [[Item Balloon]]s. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:58, December 27, 2023 (EST)
Withdrawing my vote. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 11:20, December 21, 2023 (EST)
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