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So, what's this category for, exactly? It sounds like it's only for weapons explicitly used by the Koopa Troop, but most uses I've seen are more along the lines of "[[:Category:Traps and Obstacles]], but Mario-specific". [[User:Niiue|Niiue]] ([[User talk:Niiue|talk]]) 06:41, 15 August 2017 (EDT)
So, what's this category for, exactly? It sounds like it's only for weapons explicitly used by the Koopa Troop, but most uses I've seen are more along the lines of "[[:Category:Traps and Obstacles]], but Mario-specific". [[User:Niiue|Niiue]] ([[User talk:Niiue|talk]]) 06:41, 15 August 2017 (EDT)
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I'm apprehensive about an outright deletion since I can see merit for objects like the [[Magic Paintbrush]] and non-video game weapons used by the Koopa Troop, but one look at this category will tell you it's in need of fixing. In addition to the overlap with the since-renamed [[:Category:Hazardous objects]] pointed out by Niiue, there's also overlap with [[:Category:Bullet Bills]], [[:Category:Mechakoopas]], [[:Category:Shells]], and so on. Sure, the Koopa Troop hasn't used ''every'' Bullet Bill or Bill Blaster, but the same can be said about not every boss being a villain and vise versa, and [[Category talk:Villains|we know how that went]]... A few other problematic articles of note include:
*[[Baseball (object)]]: Used by [[Chargin' Chuck|Confused Chuck]]s in ''Super Mario World'', but used exclusively by the heroes in ''Super Mario 3D World'' and neutrally in spin-offs. This also applies to other objects not always used by the Koopa Troop, such as [[barrel]]s and [[fireball]]s, and it reeks of [[Category talk:Hostages#Delete this category|Category:Hostages]].
*[[Koopa Shellceiver]]: A communication device, not a weapon.
*[[Robot cockpit]]: Transportation with no offensive capabilities until it attaches to [[Megahammer]].
And most egregiously of all:
*[[Flying Platform]]: The article explicitly notes that it only covers the helpful three-block platforms Mario and Luigi ride in the [[Forest Secret Area]] and not the two-block ones used by [[Amazing Flyin' Hammer Brother]]s — and even if it ''exclusively'' covered the latter, it would still only be considered transportation with no offensive capabilities.
I'd suggest trimming this category down to weapons and harmful objects intrinsically linked with the Koopa Troop while adding the aforementioned [[:Category:Bullet Bills]] and the like as subcategories. I'd be open to other ideas, though! [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 20:02, November 11, 2023 (EST)

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So, what's this category for, exactly? It sounds like it's only for weapons explicitly used by the Koopa Troop, but most uses I've seen are more along the lines of "Category:Traps and Obstacles, but Mario-specific". Niiue (talk) 06:41, 15 August 2017 (EDT)

This category needs help

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I'm apprehensive about an outright deletion since I can see merit for objects like the Magic Paintbrush and non-video game weapons used by the Koopa Troop, but one look at this category will tell you it's in need of fixing. In addition to the overlap with the since-renamed Category:Hazardous objects pointed out by Niiue, there's also overlap with Category:Bullet Bills, Category:Mechakoopas, Category:Shells, and so on. Sure, the Koopa Troop hasn't used every Bullet Bill or Bill Blaster, but the same can be said about not every boss being a villain and vise versa, and we know how that went... A few other problematic articles of note include:

And most egregiously of all:

  • Flying Platform: The article explicitly notes that it only covers the helpful three-block platforms Mario and Luigi ride in the Forest Secret Area and not the two-block ones used by Amazing Flyin' Hammer Brothers — and even if it exclusively covered the latter, it would still only be considered transportation with no offensive capabilities.

I'd suggest trimming this category down to weapons and harmful objects intrinsically linked with the Koopa Troop while adding the aforementioned Category:Bullet Bills and the like as subcategories. I'd be open to other ideas, though! SolemnStormcloud (talk) 20:02, November 11, 2023 (EST)