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Would it be a good idea to also have categories for instrumental music, themes or songs, as well as vocal music/themes/songs? I can see someone wanting to differentiate the Super Mario Bros. Ground theme, a completely instrumental track, from songs with vocals and lyrics like DK Rap or Jump Up, Super Star. {{User:Arend/sig}} 19:37, July 27, 2023 (EDT)
Would it be a good idea to also have categories for instrumental music, themes or songs, as well as vocal music/themes/songs? I can see someone wanting to differentiate the Super Mario Bros. Ground theme, a completely instrumental track, from songs with vocals and lyrics like DK Rap or Jump Up, Super Star. {{User:Arend/sig}} 19:37, July 27, 2023 (EDT)
:It seems kind of like an arbitrary thing to differentiate by. You'd be surprised by how fuzzy the line can be, too: ''[[DDR: Mario Mix]]'' alone has [[Always Smiling]], a song with lyrics that aren't officially known; [[Hammer Dance]], a song with constant vocal interjections but no real lyrics; and [[Pipe Pop]], a song with a rap break that is completely unintelligible and probably on purpose. [[User:Ahemtoday|Ahemtoday]] ([[User talk:Ahemtoday|talk]]) 21:27, July 27, 2023 (EDT)


I'm undecided on the proposal itself, but I would disagree that [[Paah]] does not belong in the musical category as it is arguably a short musical phrase in its own right (as part of a song). It does feel a little awkward for it to remain in the main category as it is, though. [[User:Pseudo|Pseudo]] ([[User talk:Pseudo|talk]]) 20:07, July 27, 2023 (EDT)
I'm undecided on the proposal itself, but I would disagree that [[Paah]] does not belong in the musical category as it is arguably a short musical phrase in its own right (as part of a song). It does feel a little awkward for it to remain in the main category as it is, though. [[User:Pseudo|Pseudo]] ([[User talk:Pseudo|talk]]) 20:07, July 27, 2023 (EDT)
:And as the proposal states, the new category is for music, not music-related things. The better-fitting game mechanics category for paah works fine. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 21:07, July 27, 2023 (EDT)
:And as the proposal states, the new category is for music, not music-related things. The better-fitting game mechanics category for paah works fine. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 21:07, July 27, 2023 (EDT)

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Shouldn't soundtrack pages go on their respective game articles?Knife (talk) 00:20, 10 August 2007 (EDT)

Not if they're sold separately. SaltyTalk! 00:39, 10 August 2007 (EDT)

Proposal: Reorganize this category

Proposal.svg This talk page section contains an unresolved talk page proposal. Please try to help and resolve the issue by voting or leaving a comment.

Current time: Monday, May 27, 2024, 21:47 GMT

Previously, I made a TPP to merge Category:Musical themes and Category:Songs. I canceled it because I realized instead I wanted to make this larger-scope proposal instead. Actually, it even has supplementary proposals 1 and 2, covering separate issues that don't have a reason to be bundled in with this one.

This category... it's a bit of a mess, without a clear purpose. It divides vocal and non-vocal music for no clear reason and has many things that are only music-related listed on it, only some of which are actually part of the category proper.

My guiding philosophy for this proposal is that I think this category should be our category for music or collections thereof. Other things, like musical groups or instruments or music-related collectibles, will not be included in the category.

As such, I'd like to make the following changes:

  • None of the things linked to at the top of the article will remain there, as the only one there that would be within the category's new scope is the list of albums, which is already covered by the "Albums" category.
  • The three pages under the Music category (List of references in music, Paah, and Record (WarioWare: D.I.Y.) currently will be removed, as they are merely music-related and not actually music themselves.
  • The current content of the "Musical themes" and "Songs" categories will be merged and placed under the main Music category.

Proposer: Ahemtoday (talk)
Deadline: August 10, 2023, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Ahemtoday (talk) Per proposal.
  2. Hewer (talk) Per proposal.

Oppose

Comments

Would it be a good idea to also have categories for instrumental music, themes or songs, as well as vocal music/themes/songs? I can see someone wanting to differentiate the Super Mario Bros. Ground theme, a completely instrumental track, from songs with vocals and lyrics like DK Rap or Jump Up, Super Star. ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits) 19:37, July 27, 2023 (EDT)

It seems kind of like an arbitrary thing to differentiate by. You'd be surprised by how fuzzy the line can be, too: DDR: Mario Mix alone has Always Smiling, a song with lyrics that aren't officially known; Hammer Dance, a song with constant vocal interjections but no real lyrics; and Pipe Pop, a song with a rap break that is completely unintelligible and probably on purpose. Ahemtoday (talk) 21:27, July 27, 2023 (EDT)

I'm undecided on the proposal itself, but I would disagree that Paah does not belong in the musical category as it is arguably a short musical phrase in its own right (as part of a song). It does feel a little awkward for it to remain in the main category as it is, though. Pseudo (talk) 20:07, July 27, 2023 (EDT)

And as the proposal states, the new category is for music, not music-related things. The better-fitting game mechanics category for paah works fine. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 21:07, July 27, 2023 (EDT)