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== Shady Koopas vs. Underground Koopas ==

So I see you don't agree with my long-realized observation for the Shady Koopas. This is going to be awkward to explain especially as I am really not into such topics especially I wasn't going to bother let alone plan to discuss this with my time taken away. But looking back at the Gloombas, their coloration are not even that exact sure more closely from the ''SMB'' underground Goomba colors but if anything they are more dark and navy-like with a small hint of turquoise than a slightly bright teal (like a dark cyan basically say Ludwig's teal palette from the original ''SMB3'') but with different saturation of grey that makes it resemble it in some ways vice versa, I'm aware the stem of the underground ''SMB'' Goomba and the Gloomba too adding another connection but that kind of also applies with the Shady Koopa who has a unique color shade on the rim of it's shell unlike most general Koopa Troopa species even if it's a brighter light-blue (which consistently and closely matches the ''SMB'' underground Goomba and Gloombas stem color more, which doesn't work in the original ''SMB'' due to the limitations of the original ''SMB'' underground and castle levels sprites and objects being affected for the green palette within those levels unnaturally) and not a "beige" color (though, that would look a bit odd next to their pale dark skin color and almost blend in too), both the Gloomba and Shady Koopa's "rim" color doesn't match the color to the eyes in ''PM: TTYD'' unlike the ''SMB'' 8-bit limitations of the NES hardware which their rims and eyes have to match their eye colors in the latter game) and even though Goombas in early ''Paper Mario'' games have red feet very much like in ''SMW2: Yoshi's Island'' (which their core design in that game is based on minus the yellow stem), the Gloombas also get that same exact color, not even something like magenta from the underground Goombas from the ''Super Mario All-Star'' version of ''SMB'' eve if it's a slight hue difference you can overlook which is generally off from the original ''SMB'' underground Goomba colors too. Please tell me? What other game has a Koopa with dark skin with some form of a blue-type hued shell that compares to the ''SMB'' Underground Koopas? I know it's more obvious that Gloombas with the fact that they are only found in underground areas, except in ''Super Paper Mario'' where they are also found in the Castle Bleck Foyer which fit the dark area of the overall chapter and level and looks like an underground area (may not be but just a general dark overworld) too though they could've used the Headbonk Goombas from the Flipside Pit of a 100 Trails (ironically the Headbonk Goombas despite being ''SMB'' Castle colored aren't in any castle level in ''SPM'') colored more closely as they resemble the ''SMB'' Grey/Castle Goombas closely (minus the red feet color like the classic "PM" Goombas core design) and that chapter is monochrome like the ''SMB'' Castle levels (even taking some ideas from those said game's levels like the platform puzzles from two of the castle stages) mostly but more so in Castle Bleck for it's environment and some of the exclusive enemy variants) to add that evidence and while Shady Koopas (with a flying variant too which "underground colored" green Koopa Paratroopas also appear in castles in the original ''SMB'') are found as enemies once in Glitzville besides NPCs, they are also found underground too in the Pit of a 100 Trails somewhat more commonly even if the same can be said for other exclusive recolored enemy variants in the game. Even if they gave the Shady Koopas darker skin like more closely to those of the ''SMB'' underground Koopas in the original, it would've blended in with their "evil designed" spiked collars and sunglasses a bit much especially how complex the general Koopa Troopa design is compared to a basic Goomba design. Just like how the Orange Toads in overalls in ''PM: TTYD'' are dark skinned but not too dark to the point you can't see their black dotted eyes and mouth blending in the cartoony artstyle especially within the games vibrant colored artstyle on the NPCs and just some parts of the game's overall environments. I know this is like decades later from ''PM: TTYD'' but even the light-blue Piranha Plant alternate color in ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'' vaguely looks like the underground Piranha Plants from ''Super Mario Bros.'' which can be argued to just be a coincidence with it being a more vibrant color from it yet it is the only other palette with the classic ''SMB'' yellow stem that matches the ''SMB'' green Piranha Plants color swap despite the underground ones being brown in the original ''SMB'' due to limitations with the game's NES hardware. No other blue Piranha Plant, generic or a variant as far as I know has a yellow or brown stem like those ''SMB'' underground castle colored Piranha plants from said game. You can respectfully disagree with me all you want. But I've pretty said my complex points here no matter if you deny it or not. Even if I am going over this because of a silly recolor comparison. Despite early ''Paper Mario'' games referencing old game palettes for some enemies. I hope you have a good day. EDIT: I also want to add a bit more that "Shady" is another word for dark like "gloom" is too which add a connection between the two with their resemblance to the ''SMB'' underground palette of the original species, I know there is Dark Koopas but they are simply Koopas with purple wear visually. I am saying all of this from the fact I don't agaknowlaged the Frost Piranha resembling the ''SMB'' Underground Piranha Plants' palette even from their design changes throughout the first three ''Paper Mario'' games especially if they use the modern core green stem (besides ''TTYD''), unless they have the yellow/brown stem that was used for the old base design but otherwise they can look like any blue Piranha Plant. Again sorry if this is a big read to the point I made an overwhelming essay but I wanted to give my thoughts as deep as I can even if i realized some later. --[[User:KingGeoshiKoopshi64|KingGeoshiKoopshi64]] ([[User talk:KingGeoshiKoopshi64|talk]]) 19:25, May 4, 2023 (EDT)