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::Additionally, late comments just for the sake of making a comment don't really add much either. The original poster can make a comment on what they add, maybe one other person afterward. But adding multiple comments after the section has been there for a while is just kind of pointless. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:50, July 7, 2019 (EDT) | ::Additionally, late comments just for the sake of making a comment don't really add much either. The original poster can make a comment on what they add, maybe one other person afterward. But adding multiple comments after the section has been there for a while is just kind of pointless. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:50, July 7, 2019 (EDT) | ||
:::Actually, I recently saw that, [[MarioWiki talk:BJAODN#User_commentary_on_sections_(re-proposing)|according to a unanimous proposal]], comments just for the sake of a comment are discouraged (as you said), and I suppose some comments fell under that category and should not be there (although those were attempting to be funny as well). But making comments that add to the humor of an entry are allowed, and I felt that most of those comments fell under the "adding to the humor" category. I suppose you would know more about this than I would, but are you still of the opinion that ''all'' of them should stay deleted? (All well as some from other users that I noticed you have also deleted, which I personally found to be funny.) [[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/JoeRunner|and stuff]]) 21:26, July 8, 2019 (EDT) | :::Actually, I recently saw that, [[MarioWiki talk:BJAODN#User_commentary_on_sections_(re-proposing)|according to a unanimous proposal]], comments just for the sake of a comment are discouraged (as you said), and I suppose some comments fell under that category and should not be there (although those were attempting to be funny as well). But making comments that add to the humor of an entry are allowed, and I felt that most of those comments fell under the "adding to the humor" category. I suppose you would know more about this than I would, but are you still of the opinion that ''all'' of them should stay deleted? (All well as some from other users that I noticed you have also deleted, which I personally found to be funny.) [[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/JoeRunner|and stuff]]) 21:26, July 8, 2019 (EDT) | ||
::::(I just saw this) No, not all of them should be deleted, they're meant to essentially be reactions from the person who posted the bit on BJAODN. Additional comments are fine as long as they are either within a few days of the content being posted or is something actually relevant (such as with the [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Characters#SIRI|SIRI]] section). This is all really just subjective as to when a comment can be made, there's no set distance, but time is better spent on the main articles anyway. Basically, if you aren't the original poster and have nothing really new to add, another comment is unnecessary. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 00:51, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
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:(P.S. Alex95 is so dang ''speedy''!) [[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]]) 20:59, June 30, 2019 (EDT) | :(P.S. Alex95 is so dang ''speedy''!) [[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]]) 20:59, June 30, 2019 (EDT) | ||
== Redirects == | |||
I don't think we should have redirects. They make us look unprofessional. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 00:38, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:They do not, but I do wonder about your recent ones. I don't think just the end of a title is all that necessary, but I don't think there's anything wrong with them either. I'll probably ask about them tomorrow, if they aren't already resolved when I wake up. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 00:45, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:I am similarly inclined to question what encyclopedic standard of profession you're invoking and why such a standard would fail to account for products, characters and media existing under multiple names (e.g. literally every reason wikis redirect to begin with). --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 00:49, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:And that doesn't even count that most casual readers won't even care about a redirect - and by the way, Wikipedia, ''the'' professional encyclopedia, has more redirects than any other. Redirects help people find specific things, like [[SMG]] or [[SMW]]. Removing them would simply be a lot of work, and that's not even counting the fact that anyone searching, say, ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'', would need to know the name exactly to be taken to the page - otherwise, they'd just be taken to the <s>unhelpful</s> search page.<br> | |||
:The point I'm trying to make is that deleting all redirects would cause untold amounts of work for the administrative team (especially since there are only five active ones) and force people to wade through numerous links to find what they're looking for.<br> | |||
:Removing redirects is, quite simply, a bad idea. {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 10:28, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
Well, then maybe we need more administrative teams and not everyone who removes a redirect is a higher up. Maybe we should remove some. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 11:00, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:I said that removing redirects is bad for both casual readers and the staff. Removing some is still bad, because this means we're sacrificing ease of access to pages. I recommend reading [[MarioWiki:Redirects|this handy page]]. {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 11:05, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
What if I don't like some redirects? [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 11:07, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:That is not at all a good reason to remove redirects. Redirects are only deleted if they're genuinely unhelpful, patent nonsense, or spelling-error redirects. {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 11:10, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:'''To Alex95 and Lord Grammaticus:''' On Wikipedia, for example, {{Wp|Template:Super Mario}} lists the games with their subtitles, as the reader probably knows that the template is about the Super Mario series. Similarly, if someone searched for the recently-created redirect ''[[Bros. 2]]'', they would probably be aware that it was a ''Mario'' wiki, and would be looking for either ''[[Super Mario Bros. 2]]'' or ''[[Super Mario Bros: The Lost Levels]]'', the latter of which is listed as a link in the "About" template at the top. Thinking about this, I decided to make the redirects, but first I did a quick search. ''[[Sunshine]]'', ''[[Galaxy 2]]'', and ''[[Maker]]'' were already-existing redirects, so I felt it was good to make ''Bros. 2'', ''[[Bros. 3]]'', and ''[[Maker 2]]''. In addition, none of these will result in taking someone to the wrong place (the only exception I can think of is ''[[The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3]]''.) | |||
::'''To Lord Falafel:''' Redirects aren't unprofessional. You "not liking" them isn't a reason to delete them. You aren't the only user that matters here. Any that exist should be kept, unless they somehow break [[MarioWiki:Redirects|policy]]. I side with TheDarkStar in that regard. '''[[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/JoeRunner|and stuff]])''' 11:15, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::In addition, I'm not the only one who creates redirects, so if you believe something such as "Redirects should be removed", make a [[MarioWiki:Proposal|proposal]] or ask [[User talk:Porplemontage|Porplemontage]], as it isn't only related to my edits. '''[[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/JoeRunner|and stuff]])''' 11:18, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
I know. But I can't do a proposal. That requires editors to vote. It's a 50-50 chance of the new edit being accepted or declined. If I talk to Steve, he'll give me a definitive answer saying what should be done. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 11:23, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:That was a suggestion for the future if something like this arises again. You definitely ''can'' do a proposal, but if you don't want to somehow, then just go with the second suggestion. If you're saying you don't want to do either because nobody will side with you, it probably isn't a good thing to bring up. '''[[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/JoeRunner|and stuff]])''' 11:31, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Family Computer Disk System == | |||
All the other games say Disk System. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 16:02, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:Um... no. None of them do. All of them are listed [[Family Computer Disk System#Gallery|here]]. Look at the pages. '''[[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/JoeRunner|and stuff]])''' 16:32, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
I did and you lied to me. Super Mario Bros. says Disk System. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 17:43, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:First of all, I wouldn't recommend saying that someone lied to you. It's not very kind. Second, don't say all of them say "Disk System" when only one does. Third, Super Mario Bros. only says it in ''one'' instance and should probably be changed too. '''[[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/JoeRunner|and stuff]])''' 18:33, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:Changed it already. {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 18:38, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::Oh, I meant [[Special:Diff/2763872|this]]. '''[[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/JoeRunner|and stuff]])''' 18:46, September 22, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::But thanks. '''[[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/JoeRunner|and stuff]])''' 09:00, September 23, 2019 (EDT) | |||
==Signature== | |||
Hello, just wanted to let you know that if you want to create a custom signature like the one you have right now, you have to create a sig page ([[User:JoeRunner/sig]]) and then transclude it in your preferences like this: <nowiki>{{User:JoeRunner/sig}}</nowiki>. Make sure to check the box that says "Treat signature like wikitext", and you're set! [[MarioWiki:Signatures|This page]] gives more info on signatures, so I recommend reading it. {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 10:25, September 23, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:Cool, thanks. {{User:JoeRunner/sig}} 17:54, September 23, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== About the Fire proposal == | |||
By the way I voted under the wrong header there, so you might want to give that another look. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:13, January 26, 2020 (EST) | |||
== Friends? == | |||
Do you want to exchange userboxes? [[User:DarkNight|DarkNight]] ([[User talk:DarkNight|talk]]) 15:36, July 15, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:Sorry for not getting to you the first time you asked. Sure, go ahead and add my userbox, and I'll add yours. {{User:JoeRunner/sig}} 09:04, July 17, 2020 (EDT) | |||