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:::::Another possibility in the same vein that I've been mulling over since this topic was first broached is replacing the "Confusion with Appearances" section with a "Possible Appearances" section, which would have a brief discussion about the confusion and then cover everything as sections, rather than a table (although things like cameos can be collapsed into a single section that just lists them out, like most regular characters' cameo sections). This offers an efficient way to deal with situations like the ''M&L'' games and ''Sluggers'' where you do have a single Toad in a major role: to me, it would seem ill-fitting to talk about those individual Toads in the overall species article, but making separate pages for the unnamed Toad NPCs also seems far less than ideal, especially when most folks are gonna assume it's Toad and come here for the info anyway. Compared to the alternatives, as long as we acknowledge that it's not confirmed, just inferred, our established article for the single, prominent Toad seems like a perfectly reasonable place for info on single, prominent Toads that everything thinks are him anyway. (Plus it means that folks looking through the TOC will see the games they expect to see ''somewhere'' on the page right away, but the first point is the main point.) - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 20:04, 13 May 2014 (EDT)
:::::Another possibility in the same vein that I've been mulling over since this topic was first broached is replacing the "Confusion with Appearances" section with a "Possible Appearances" section, which would have a brief discussion about the confusion and then cover everything as sections, rather than a table (although things like cameos can be collapsed into a single section that just lists them out, like most regular characters' cameo sections). This offers an efficient way to deal with situations like the ''M&L'' games and ''Sluggers'' where you do have a single Toad in a major role: to me, it would seem ill-fitting to talk about those individual Toads in the overall species article, but making separate pages for the unnamed Toad NPCs also seems far less than ideal, especially when most folks are gonna assume it's Toad and come here for the info anyway. Compared to the alternatives, as long as we acknowledge that it's not confirmed, just inferred, our established article for the single, prominent Toad seems like a perfectly reasonable place for info on single, prominent Toads that everything thinks are him anyway. (Plus it means that folks looking through the TOC will see the games they expect to see ''somewhere'' on the page right away, but the first point is the main point.) - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 20:04, 13 May 2014 (EDT)
::::I think I like that idea more than mine, since as you said it would further reduce potential confusion among readers. On top of that, should all the known/confirmed appearances be under its own major section as well? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:21, 14 May 2014 (EDT)
::::I think I like that idea more than mine, since as you said it would further reduce potential confusion among readers. On top of that, should all the known/confirmed appearances be under its own major section as well? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:21, 14 May 2014 (EDT)
:::Awesome: I'm glad we seem to have found a solution we both like. I was thinking the confirmed stuff would stay in the "History" section, with "Possible appearances" coming right after, and maybe a note in the intro giving users a heads-up that there's a divide. Also, I like the idea of applying this structure to other ambiguous character/species divides - [[Kamek]], for example, comes to mind immediately, since prominent Magikoopas are constantly assumed to be him. Since this is going to affect more than the Toad page, we should probably make a full Proposal about it, rather than just changing things ourselves; if we feel we have the ideas smoothed out enough, I could write and post one in the next couple days. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 16:14, 14 May 2014 (EDT)