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==Ta-da!==
==Ta-da!==
Been working on these rooms for about a week, and I'm proud to report I am finished. I did get some help from [[User: Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]] (Courtyard) and [[User: Snowblind|Snowblind]] (Billards Room and Balcony) though. Cheers to those guys! But like I said, every room is done. {{User|Monty Mole}} 17:01, 14 August 2006 (EDT)
Been working on these rooms for about a week, and I'm proud to report I am finished. I did get some help from [[User: Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]] (Courtyard) and [[User: Snowblind|Snowblind]] (Billards Room and Balcony) though. Cheers to those guys! But like I said, every room is done. [[User:Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9FF"><i>Monty Mole</i></font>]] 17:01, 14 August 2006 (EDT)


Good.{{User|HK-47}} 17:02, 14 August 2006 (EDT)
Good.[[User:HK-47|H]][[User talk:HK-47|K]][[Special:Contributions/HK-47|-]][[Special:Emailuser/HK-47|4]][[Special:Blockip/HK-47|7]] [[MarioWiki:Donations|<font size= "1">w4z</font>]] [[Special:Random|<font size= "1">h3R3</font>]] [[Special:Version|<font size= "1">a</font>]][[Special:Uncategorizedpages|<font size= "1">t</font>]] 17:02, 14 August 2006 (EDT)
:Terrific! Now with '''PipeProjects''', such a process as ''Luigi's Mansion'' will become much easier to handle. {{User|Wayoshi}} </small> 17:28, 14 August 2006 (EDT)
:Terrific! Now with '''PipeProjects''', such a process as ''Luigi's Mansion'' will become much easier to handle. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 17:28, 14 August 2006 (EDT)


==Ghosts==
==Ghosts==
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== Blackout ==
== Blackout ==


Does the Blackout merit its own article as an event? They actually call it "Blackout" in-game and the font when they do is colored. That to me is an indication that it should have an article. The article could include the different types of ghosts that appear in different rooms during it and how to turn the lights back on. Anyone with me? [[File:Mr. L.jpg|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 11:43, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
Does the Blackout merit its own article as an event? They actually call it "Blackout" in-game and the font when they do is colored. That to me is an indication that it should have an article. The article could include the different types of ghosts that appear in different rooms during it and how to turn the lights back on. Anyone with me? [[File:Mr L Render.png|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 11:43, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
:Not really. It's a major occurrence in the game, sure, but the article will likely just have "The entire mansion goes dark and more ghosts appear." ...There really isn't enough to cover to give it its own article. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:17, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
:Not really. It's a major occurrence in the game, sure, but the article will likely just have "The entire mansion goes dark and more ghosts appear." ...There really isn't enough to cover to give it its own article. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:17, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
::Not true. You didn't read my full post. I listed a couple things that the article would include. [[File:Mr. L.jpg|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 13:58, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
::Not true. You didn't read my full post. I listed a couple things that the article would include. [[File:Mr L Render.png|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 13:58, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
:::Knock yourself out (figure of speech). I am for you. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}}
:::Knock yourself out (figure of speech). I am for you. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}}
:::Well, then see what you can put together. I still don't think the article is necessary, though, as it's only a short-term event. Get struck by lightning, recover the key from Uncle Grimley, open the breaker room, and turn back on the lights, all while fighting more plentiful ghosts. There's nothing truly noteworthy of the event and it'll likely end up being a stub article. Regardless, I'm rooting for you. Let's see what you come up with. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:45, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
:::Well, then see what you can put together. I still don't think the article is necessary, though, as it's only a short-term event. Get struck by lightning, recover the key from Uncle Grimley, open the breaker room, and turn back on the lights, all while fighting more plentiful ghosts. There's nothing truly noteworthy of the event and it'll likely end up being a stub article. Regardless, I'm rooting for you. Let's see what you come up with. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:45, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
:::Article created. Not done yet, but I'll finish as soon as possible. [[File:Mr. L.jpg|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 21:12, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
:::Article created. Not done yet, but I'll finish as soon as possible. [[File:Mr L Render.png|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 21:12, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
::::Done! [[File:Mr. L.jpg|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 11:17, 19 September 2016 (EDT)
::::Done! [[File:Mr L Render.png|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 11:17, 19 September 2016 (EDT)
::::Huh. There was more info to this than I thought. Good work! Should the construction template be removed? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 11:25, 19 September 2016 (EDT)
::::Huh. There was more info to this than I thought. Good work! Should the construction template be removed? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 11:25, 19 September 2016 (EDT)
:::::Thanks! First article I did from scratch. And yes, the construction template was removed.[[File:Mr. L.jpg|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 21:11, 20 September 2016 (EDT)
:::::Thanks! First article I did from scratch. And yes, the construction template was removed.[[File:Mr L Render.png|25px]] [[User:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:green">Ultimate Mr. L</span>]] ([[User talk:Ultimate Mr. L|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 21:11, 20 September 2016 (EDT)


== Luigi's Mansion Series Page ==
== Luigi's Mansion Series Page ==
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== Reference ==
== Reference ==


I included a reference to [[Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon]] in the "References in later games," section for the 3DS version, but I think I put it in the wrong spot because I don't know which games were between ''Dark Moon''. {{unsigned|Prpro&#61;03}}
I included a reference to [[Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon]] in the "References in later games," section for the 3DS version, but I think I put it in the wrong spot because I don't know which games were between ''Dark Moon''. {{unsigned|‎Prpro&#61;03}}


:I moved this to "References to other games," since it's ''Dark Moon'' that is being referenced.<br>--[[User:PhGuy12|PhGuy12]] ([[User talk:PhGuy12|talk]]) 18:51, 12 October 2018 (EDT)
:I moved this to "References to other games," since it's ''Dark Moon'' that is being referenced.<br>--[[User:PhGuy12|PhGuy12]] ([[User talk:PhGuy12|talk]]) 18:51, 12 October 2018 (EDT)
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== Separate Page ==
== Separate Page ==


Considering how many changes there really are in this game, should we make a separate page for the 3DS version?{{unsigned|Prpro&#61;03}}
Considering how many changes there really are in this game, should we make a separate page for the 3DS version?{{unsigned|‎Prpro&#61;03}}
:Nah, we don't need a separate page just for a list of changes. Overall, it's the same game, just with some added features. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:25, 12 October 2018 (EDT)
:Nah, we don't need a separate page just for a list of changes. Overall, it's the same game, just with some added features. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:25, 12 October 2018 (EDT)
::Honestly, I don't think a split is necessary, either. I've made it up to Area 4; the story's been the same so far on the 3DS [[User:Arnold232|Arnold232]] ([[User talk:Arnold232|talk]]) 03:01, 15 October 2018 (EDT)
::Honestly, I don't think a split is necessary, either. I've made it up to Area 4; the story's been the same so far on the 3DS [[User:Arnold232|Arnold232]] ([[User talk:Arnold232|talk]]) 03:01, 15 October 2018 (EDT)
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==Split ''Luigi's Mansion 3DS'' into its own article==
==Split ''Luigi's Mansion 3DS'' into its own article==
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As you may know, Luigi's Mansion has recently got a 3DS remake that adds many new features such as an S rank, an expanded gallery, updated graphics, platinum frames, a new boss rush mode, co-op, new cutscenes, the strobulb, etc. This is why I propose that it should be spit into its own separate article. The ''Nintendo 3DS version'' section in this article is starting to run on due to the major changes in this version, and in my opinion giving the 3DS remake its own article would better sort out this information. Not only that, but other remakes/ports with much less new features such as [[New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe]] and [[Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World]] get there own article so in my opinion ''Luigi's Mansion 3DS'' should also have an article to itself.
As you may know, Luigi's Mansion has recently got a 3DS remake that adds many new features such as an S rank, an expanded gallery, updated graphics, platinum frames, a new boss rush mode, co-op, new cutscenes, the strobulb, etc. This is why I propose that it should be spit into its own separate article. The ''Nintendo 3DS version'' section in this article is starting to run on due to the major changes in this version, and in my opinion giving the 3DS remake its own article would better sort out this information. Not only that, but other remakes/ports with much less new features such as [[New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe]] and [[Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World]] get there own article so in my opinion ''Luigi's Mansion 3DS'' should also have an article to itself.


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#{{user|Mario jc}} The only reason they're together is because they share the same name. If this were called "''Luigi's Mansion 3D''" (a la ''Ocarina of Time''/''Majora's Mask 3D'', also by Grezzo), I guarantee it would've received a separate page from the start. While they're similar by name, I think they're different enough by nature to warrant separate articles.
#{{user|Mario jc}} The only reason they're together is because they share the same name. If this were called "''Luigi's Mansion 3D''" (a la ''Ocarina of Time''/''Majora's Mask 3D'', also by Grezzo), I guarantee it would've received a separate page from the start. While they're similar by name, I think they're different enough by nature to warrant separate articles.
#{{User|Bazooka Mario}} I don't see the problem in giving this one its own page. Would be much easier to illustrate differences between the games. We do generally cover remakes as their own pages.
#{{User|Bazooka Mario}} I don't see the problem in giving this one its own page. Would be much easier to illustrate differences between the games. We do generally cover remakes as their own pages.
#{{User|bwburke94}} The differences are enough to split it into a new article.
#{{User|George Jones}} It has enough differences to warrent an article for its own.
#{{User|Uncle Steve}} I think we could make it a separate article just because the existing section is ginormous and a pain to read/edit.
#{{User|Scrooge200}} Per all.
#{{User|BBQ Turtle}} Per all, there are a lot of changes.


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
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{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 15:14, 6 November 2018 (EST)
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 15:14, 6 November 2018 (EST)
::That's actually more changes than exist between SMW2 and SMA3, for reference. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:40, 6 November 2018 (EST)
::That's actually more changes than exist between SMW2 and SMA3, for reference. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:40, 6 November 2018 (EST)
== Luigi's Mansion website content coverage ==
In the official website of the first game there was a flash game where one could go visit E. Gadd's lab. The lab served as the main location where you would pick different rooms, objects and machines to enter a new section.
https://web.archive.org/web/20011130141838/http://luigis-mansion.com:80/
The sections of the lab include:
* The Bookcase (Which contains information regarding Luigi's story as a character, the history of the game and other interesting things)
* Ask Madame Clairvoya (The Fortune-Teller Room where one could ask Madame Clairvoya anything and she would answer your question)
* The Poltercue (A pool game using the Poltergust 3000)
* Spooky Movies (Place to watch two clips from the game using QuickTime)
* Screamshot Gallery (A galler of photos from the game)
* The Drafting Table (A room containing some images of ghosts found by E. Gadd, funny stuff)
Here's an archived version that you can play right now.
https://skelux.net/flash/luigismansion/
However, it's missing the room to the fortune-teller room. It was far on the right and it was a green door as the one in the photo below. There is also a shadow that appears out of nowhere. It's actually an orange ghost but it's also missing the sprite. It seems the sprite of the door to the room is missing, but the code to the fortune-teller room exists inside the lab file. I used SWF Decompiler to prove it.
[[File:LM Full Lab Screenshot.png|250px|The green room is missing on the archived flash game version.]]
A lot of these especially the fortune-teller room and the bookcase have interesting stuff that should be added to the respective articles on this wiki, such as The Lab, Madame Clairvoya and possibly even the Luigi's Mansion main article. Let's not forget the voice lines in the Madame file make it stand out from the rest. They can easily be added to the character's list of quotes on her article.
[[File:LM website Ask Madame Clairvoya.png|250px|The fortune-teller room as it was shown in web archive.]]
I've made a video after I extracted the audios from the swf file of her room with all her responses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpPJ2G3Pgqg
My only request is for all of this content to be saved and added to the wiki and into the specified articles I mentioned above, so anyone can know what the site used to be. [[User:Alfonso720|Alfonso720]] ([[User talk:Alfonso720|talk]]) 00:22, December 16, 2020 (EST)
:Yeah, images can definitely be added to the relevant articles. We also cover [[:Category:Browser Games|official browser games]], so maybe a "Luigi's Mansion (browser)" or something could also be created. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 00:31, December 16, 2020 (EST)
::Thanks. I'll probably work on adding information tomorrow though. I'll also do a few changes to the Madame article to fit the information from the website. I also noticed the Poltercue article exists here, something I totally missed. It would be great if the Luigi's Mansion (website) article is created, we must include the main section of the lab and the others you can pick there. I don't know what screenshot we can use for the lab though since the one in the link above is missing some details like the door. I will probably need help on creating though, once again tomorrow. [[User:Alfonso720|Alfonso720]] ([[User talk:Alfonso720|talk]]) 00:50, December 16, 2020 (EST)
:::I think the website of ''[[Wario Land 4]]'' was basically a game in itself too, with lots of things that separated it from the game it promoted. Content like this should definitely be covered in some form. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 07:48, December 16, 2020 (EST)
::::Alright, now that I added some information to Madame Clairvoya's article, I think we could also think in the creation of Luigi's Mansion website article. My only concern with it, is what kind of main image we can use for that article since a screenshot of the lab in that link above wouldn't look good since it's still missing some details. I wish there was some way to make the lab complete again since I have all the files, but I don't know how to combine them all into the lab, not to mention the missing sprite of the door to Clairvoya's room. Also, I wanted to add the Ask Madame Clairvoya information in her article but I don't know if I should either make a new section, add it as another subsection in the heading "History" or add it all in Trivia. --[[User:Alfonso720|Alfonso720]] ([[User talk:Alfonso720|talk]]) 01:37, December 19, 2020 (EST)

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