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I think this article has too much to do with the game, ''[[Donkey Kong]]'', and not enough to do with the character. Does the lawsuit about the arcade game really matter in the Donkey Kong article? | I think this article has too much to do with the game, ''[[Donkey Kong]]'', and not enough to do with the character. Does the lawsuit about the arcade game really matter in the Donkey Kong article? | ||
[[User:Waluigi Freak 99|Waluigi Freak 99]] 09:35, 14 October 2006 (EDT) | [[User:Waluigi Freak 99|Waluigi Freak 99]] 09:35, 14 October 2006 (EDT) | ||
:Some of the info, mainly under Sequels and spin-offs, needs to be moved to the arcade game. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#063;"><font size="5">'''{{color-link|User:Wayoshi|#050|W}}'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>·</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>·</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php/Special:Random http://www.mariowiki.com/images/2/24/Wayoshisig.png]</span> 11:32, 14 October 2006 (EDT) | :Some of the info, mainly under Sequels and spin-offs, needs to be moved to the arcade game. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#063;"><font size="5">'''{{color-link-piped|User:Wayoshi|#050|W}}'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>·</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>·</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php/Special:Random http://www.mariowiki.com/images/2/24/Wayoshisig.png]</span> 11:32, 14 October 2006 (EDT) | ||
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*Its me who is deleting the pics. they are of Kiddy, Diddy, and Dixie. No revelence to '''DK'''. Find artwork of DK from those games and then we will keep'em. --{{user:WarioLoaf/sig}} 22:43, 28 January 2007 (EST) | *Its me who is deleting the pics. they are of Kiddy, Diddy, and Dixie. No revelence to '''DK'''. Find artwork of DK from those games and then we will keep'em. --{{user:WarioLoaf/sig}} 22:43, 28 January 2007 (EST) | ||
Yes and he is '''NO''' vandal. Also the boxart doesn't look so good... [[Image: | Yes and he is '''NO''' vandal. Also the boxart doesn't look so good... [[Image:Mayor.gif]]<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''[[User talk:Paper Jorge|aper]] '''[[User:Paper Jorge/sig|Jorge]]'''</font></span> | ||
Ok I get it give it a rest. And it's not all about how the picture looks. --[[User:Taj The Genie|Taj The Genie]] 22:49, 28 January 2007 (EST) | Ok I get it give it a rest. And it's not all about how the picture looks. --[[User:Taj The Genie|Taj The Genie]] 22:49, 28 January 2007 (EST) | ||
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:[[SmashWiki:Giant Donkey Kong|Smash Wiki also defines Giant Donkey Kong as a boss]]. It's more than just his role, the permanent Super Mushroom is something the player cannot do in Classic Mode. He may not have a health bar like Giga Bowser, but he is still placed at the end of routes and fulfills the same requirements as any other Classic Mode boss. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:41, April 18, 2019 (EDT) | :[[SmashWiki:Giant Donkey Kong|Smash Wiki also defines Giant Donkey Kong as a boss]]. It's more than just his role, the permanent Super Mushroom is something the player cannot do in Classic Mode. He may not have a health bar like Giga Bowser, but he is still placed at the end of routes and fulfills the same requirements as any other Classic Mode boss. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:41, April 18, 2019 (EDT) | ||
::Reopening this discussion because the addition is still under dispute. Giant Donkey Kong is a superpowered character faced at the end of a Classic route, he counts as a boss. So do Metal Mario and all the other boss characters that don't have healthbars. "They don't have healthbars", "The announcer says 'Go'", and "regular Smash battle" aren't valid reasons to disqualify them as bosses. I direct you to [[Master Core]]. Master Core's taken out with a Smash battle after all his shapeshifting and you're not saying ''he's'' not a boss. Giant/metal characters faced at the end of a run count as bosses. {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 16:23, August 30, 2019 (EDT) | ::Reopening this discussion because the addition is still under dispute. Giant Donkey Kong is a superpowered character faced at the end of a Classic route, he counts as a boss. So do Metal Mario and all the other boss characters that don't have healthbars. "They don't have healthbars", "The announcer says 'Go'", and "regular Smash battle" aren't valid reasons to disqualify them as bosses. I direct you to [[Master Core]]. Master Core's taken out with a Smash battle after all his shapeshifting and you're not saying ''he's'' not a boss. Giant/metal characters faced at the end of a run count as bosses. {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 16:23, August 30, 2019 (EDT) | ||
== Donkey Kong III == | == Donkey Kong III == | ||
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Even though it's covered in the Cranky Kong article, I definitely think it's important to note here so I don't see why it's not necessary on both pages given the other inconsistencies throughout the years are mentioned on both. It doesn't seem like Nintendo really makes much of a distinction between "classic" and "modern" DK given the loose nature of the Mario series' canon (Baby DK comes to mind), so I don't get why it's not worth mentioning. [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 19:32, January 25, 2020 (EST) | Even though it's covered in the Cranky Kong article, I definitely think it's important to note here so I don't see why it's not necessary on both pages given the other inconsistencies throughout the years are mentioned on both. It doesn't seem like Nintendo really makes much of a distinction between "classic" and "modern" DK given the loose nature of the Mario series' canon (Baby DK comes to mind), so I don't get why it's not worth mentioning. [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 19:32, January 25, 2020 (EST) | ||
:The early ''Super Smash Bros.'' games aren't notable because they also seemingly treat Link like one individual character. The marketing of ''Mario vs. Donkey Kong'' ''does'' imply that Donkey Kong is from the arcade game; however, the storyline of its direct sequel ''also'' implies that Donkey Kong fell in love with Pauline at first sight, which strongly suggests that he can't be the same Donkey Kong or even Donkey Kong Jr. As far as I can tell, inconsistencies like this only happened because Nintendo wasn't quite sure what to do with the property after Rare left - Nintendo never actually tried to retcon Cranky Kong out of being the original Donkey Kong, even if Rare couldn't keep their story straight on his exact relationship to the modern Donkey Kong toward the end. Despite the interim between Rare and Retro's platformers, Nintendo still acknowledged that the arcade Donkey Kong is an ancestor of the modern one, such as in ''Mario Superstar Baseball'' and ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'', and the current story on Cranky Kong is the original one from ''Donkey Kong Country''. For these reasons, the bigger story is Rare's inconsistent portrayal of Cranky Kong as either Donkey Kong's grandfather or father, and regardless, all of this is directed to the [[Cranky Kong#Identity confusion|identity confusion]] section. Like what was decided for the [[Koopalings#Family relationship|Koopalings]], it's for the best to keep the information all in [[MarioWiki:Once and only once|one spot]], because doing otherwise is messy and can potentially cause even more confusion, which isn't really necessary when this has been a settled issue for a good decade. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 20:30, January 25, 2020 (EST) | :The early ''Super Smash Bros.'' games aren't notable because they also seemingly treat Link like one individual character. The marketing of ''Mario vs. Donkey Kong'' ''does'' imply that Donkey Kong is from the arcade game; however, the storyline of its direct sequel ''also'' implies that Donkey Kong fell in love with Pauline at first sight, which strongly suggests that he can't be the same Donkey Kong or even Donkey Kong Jr. As far as I can tell, inconsistencies like this only happened because Nintendo wasn't quite sure what to do with the property after Rare left - Nintendo never actually tried to retcon Cranky Kong out of being the original Donkey Kong, even if Rare couldn't keep their story straight on his exact relationship to the modern Donkey Kong toward the end. Despite the interim between Rare and Retro's platformers, Nintendo still acknowledged that the arcade Donkey Kong is an ancestor of the modern one, such as in ''Mario Superstar Baseball'' and ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'', and the current story on Cranky Kong is the original one from ''Donkey Kong Country''. For these reasons, the bigger story is Rare's inconsistent portrayal of Cranky Kong as either Donkey Kong's grandfather or father, and regardless, all of this is directed to the [[Cranky Kong#Identity confusion|identity confusion]] section. Like what was decided for the [[Koopalings#Family relationship|Koopalings]], it's for the best to keep the information all in [[MarioWiki:Once and only once|one spot]], because doing otherwise is messy and can potentially cause even more confusion, which isn't really necessary when this has been a settled issue for a good decade. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 20:30, January 25, 2020 (EST) | ||